Just because you paid him does not make him worth it

MarcusRock

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I never said he was better than Wilson. But still ranks 7th and they give better grades for further passes. So your only 20 air yard throws argument is garbage. The only knock is he doesnt throw deep more often.

He also finished 7th in the NFL in average air yards per attempt at 8.0 wilson finished 3rd

I literally said Dak can't do what Wilson does with 40-50 yard bombs, not with stats that include 20s and then you send me stats that say Dak is kinda good when you consider the 20s. Not only that but Dak even throws them LESS OFTEN than most other QBs which is why fans have that knock on him to start.

You might as well have said, "Your dumb" with your previous post in trying to throw out insults. Lawd!
 
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he lost i mean dak is not responsible for the refs actions on the final play in the playoff game year all the blame seems pointed at him and he didn't even make a mistake like that, Refs fault, slow , coach fault calls that play, yet daks loss ..dont be hypocrite. Like most Qbs its their win or loss alone around here.

not team loss lie it should be i mean daks didn't create 14 penaltiles but yet go look at the reaction blame dak for not overcoming it..
Are you suggesting the outcome of our playoff loss to the 49ers hinged on.......never mind.
 

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I literally said Dak can't do what Wilson does with 40-50 yard bombs, not with stats that include 20s and then you send me stats that say Dak is kinda good when you consider the 20s. Not only that but Dak even throws them LESS OFTEN than most other QBs which is why fans have that knock on him to start.

You might as well have said, "Your dumb" with your previous post in trying to throw out insults. Lawd!
https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...tt-lead-league-in-40-yard-completions-in-2019

Provide some proof instead of spewing trash out of your mouth dumb dumb.

Dak is a great deep ball thrower. Prove me wrong
 

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It sounds easy on paper - just draft another QB. Get one in round one, a sure thing...only it's not. About half of them are busts.

I remember the trade up into round two for Quincy Carter, the failed attempt to trade up into round one for Paxton Lynch, and Jerry being angry when the rest of the room said "no" to Johnny Football. And yet, even if the Cowboys win the SB this year (I doubt that happens, for several reasons) you still want to draft a QB and move on?

That's basically admitting nothing Dak might possibly do would ever be good enough for you. Fair enough.
Not at all. I said to draft one if we win to have a backup better than Cooper rush to groom behind Dak for when he’s gone. You obviously don’t know my history when it comes to Dak.

And I know most QBs are busts. I’ve argued the same. I’m just saying having a QB shouldn’t stop you from drafting one.
 

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Not at all. I said to draft one if we win to have a backup better than Cooper rush to groom behind Dak for when he’s gone. You obviously don’t know my history when it comes to Dak.

And I know most QBs are busts. I’ve argued the same. I’m just saying having a QB shouldn’t stop you from drafting one.

Thank you for clarifying your position.
 

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I remember.

4 of those 7 games Dak didn't even get over 200 yards passing.

It was ugly and Dak needs elite talent around him in the worst way.
He had everything from a HOF TE to Stud HB and OFFLINE and WR and all he managed was 1 playoff win.
We have seen the above and its results so what are we waiting for the Ravens 2000 defense?
The man cannot score points till its the 4th Q and we are down and the defense is laying back......dang we just saw it in the Niners game!!!
 

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I have said this 100 times. The playoffs represent the best coaches, players and schemes the NFL has to offer. McCarthy cannot do that for 4 games in a postseason run. And Dak cannot either.

Dallas hasn't had a defense that can do that since the 90s, either. Even when Dak put up 31 in a playoff game, he lost.

If it's not one thing it's another with the Cowboys in the playoffs. Penalties, can't stop the run, can't get the offense going - all three happened against the Niners.
 

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The Legion of Boom years version of Wilson? I thought you meant that his ceiling is prime years Russell Wilson. My bad.

Yeah, I can see that, because Wilson was carried big time in those years by that defense and handing the ball to Lynch.
And he would have had another ring if at the end of that sb he turned around and handed the ball off on the goal line. He had brady on the sidelines with his helmet off. But wilson threw the ball and threw the pick in the endzone. Lost that game. I know lynch was so mad.
 

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……I wish Rayne Dakotas ceiling was as high as Wilson’s. If it is, I wish Russ would show him how to throw the deep ball with accuracy
https://www.nfl.com/_amp/dak-prescott-russell-wilson-headline-nfl-s-top-10-deep-passers
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-all-32-nfl-quarterbacks-deep-passing



https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/pla...n-top-10-in-consensus-deep-passing-evaluation
https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/.amp...-rankings-dak-prescott-chris-simms-nbc-update
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-rankin...ng-performance-arizona-cardinals-kyler-murray
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/deep-ball-completion-percent-leaders

All different sources from all throughout his career. One of the worse misconceptions on this board is that he’s not a good deep ball thrower. Literally every deep ball evaluation by every source has him as one of the better deep ball throwers in the league. Any argument against is “eye test” based. People swear they remember every deep pass from every QB but no you don’t Einstein. You’re not watching the tape and doing the count on completion percentages like these publications are. You remember the misses, forget half the makes, and remember all the makes from other teams QB’s. What factual information can you display saying he’s not a good deep ball passer?

Where he does need to improve is throwing into tight anticipatory windows on intermediate routes, but not deep balls.

Any doubts please check out the articles as they are deep dives and more recent.
 

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What teams are willing to deal with us? Who is going to be a FA? Who might have a falling out with their team and want out? Where are we drafting? What QBs coming out in the draft this year or next look like hits?

There's plenty of options out there, but you have to be willing to move on from the albatross around your neck first.
Ah.

So we can draft a Kyler Murray or a Carson Wentz? We get to trade a bunch of assets for most likely a worse qb? (as there are only 8 or so better than Dak, even by the most ardent haters admissions)

Sounds like a great plan!
 

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maybe I should have said high level talent at WR. You recall the year we traded for Amari Cooper? The year we boasted all off-season about the WR by committee approach? That lasted 7 games. Like I said, we have seen this movie before.
I don't understand how anyone could think that Ceedee Lamb is not a high level talent at WR? He is going into his 3rd year and has already made a pro bowl, led his team in receiving and has over 150 catches.

Few WRs in history can say that.
 

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https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...tt-lead-league-in-40-yard-completions-in-2019

Provide some proof instead of spewing trash out of your mouth dumb dumb.

Dak is a great deep ball thrower. Prove me wrong

Bro, you gave me all the proof I needed with that first stat mashup you sent me. But for this latest installment, let's go back to my original post that you chose to take upon yourself to get messily involved with:
He's not talking about the stats that say 20+ yards is a deep pass, he's talking about the bombs that Wilson puts up and on target. 40-50+ yards in the air. Dak can't do that. Not many can but it's an excellent weapon to have.
What you've now provided me are 40+ yard completions total, NOT "in the air" as I stated. So if Dak threw a 2-yard screen to Cooper and he took it to the house 38 more yards, it counts on this new "stat" of yours. Not only that but this is a single year, not career and the article quotes the fact that Dak has that knock against him in the first place for 3 years running to that point. It still exists, bro, which was my point, lol.
 

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Ah.

So we can draft a Kyler Murray or a Carson Wentz? We get to trade a bunch of assets for most likely a worse qb? (as there are only 8 or so better than Dak, even by the most ardent haters admissions)

Sounds like a great plan!
I like my plan of trying to actually get better much more than what I assume is your plan of just keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

But hey, to each their own, right?
 

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We should be building off last year. I don't see where we did that. You want to cut Cooper? Fine. But you cut him to extend a WR that was injured in January that you KNOW will miss the first 6 games? How is that building? Bobby Wagner should have been on this team. That would have allowed us to be more flexible in how we use Parsons. And it would have given Micah an unbelievable blueprint to follow. Plus Wagner played for Dan Quinn. We have cap room. Other teams seem to keep who they want AND sign who they want. It seems like yesterday the Rams had a very high priced Goff and Gurley. Made a Super Bowl run. Moved off of both of them. And made another run with another QB...and added Ramsey and OBJ and Von Miller. Also kept Kupp and Donald. You get my point?
Bobby Wagner was a pipe dream, this FO does not pay top end FAs, we grab what is left and Barr came cheap, easy deal.
 

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He had everything from a HOF TE to Stud HB and OFFLINE and WR and all he managed was 1 playoff win.
We have seen the above and its results so what are we waiting for the Ravens 2000 defense?
The man cannot score points till its the 4th Q and we are down and the defense is laying back......dang we just saw it in the Niners game!!!
Wait....are you saying we didn't lose the 49ers playoff game because the refs did not spot the ball fast enough? [/sarcasm off]
 

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Russ had three choices,

  • change the play
  • run the ball himself
  • throw to different target
Sorry, I just don't see it that way at all.

A second year QB isn't changing the play at that stage of a SB.
Because of that, there are no other options. The play is designed for the ball to hit the QB's hands & be thrown instantly to a spot. Which is exactly what he did.

Any blame goes to Pete but as I said earlier the play call is fine. It scores against anyone but the Patriots who had identified the tendency. So rather than lay blame, I take my hat off to them for figuring it out. That is the very definition of winning before the game is even played. Which is a huge reason the Pat's have been so succesful this century.
 
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