As time passes, Cowboys contract with Ezekiel Elliott looks even worse

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I responded to pappy because he has continued to say that zeke is the engine (im paraphrasing) and hes not. AThe Line is the engine. But dak for as much as yall want to critisize him plays an important part of it. He can win without zeke and regardless of who you play the offense can put up big numbers without zeke.

Zeke didnt get the contract because hes so valuable zeke got the contract because jerrys an idiot he did it with several other cowboys and it ended up being bad contracts.


Ezekiel Elliott is 26-4 with the Cowboys when rushing for 100+ yards in his career.:muttley:

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I think we’ve seen the end of the mega RB contracts. You get 1-3 big years out of them and they begin to decline. Most teens these days are using 2 backs.
 

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I responded to pappy because he has continued to say that zeke is the engine (im paraphrasing) and hes not. AThe Line is the engine. But dak for as much as yall want to critisize him plays an important part of it. He can win without zeke and regardless of who you play the offense can put up big numbers without zeke.

They haven't scored more than 9 points against a team with a winning record without Zeke.

Zeke didnt get the contract because hes so valuable zeke got the contract because jerrys an idiot he did it with several other cowboys and it ended up being bad contracts.

Jerry may be an idiot, but Zeke definitely had leverage in those negotiations.
 

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I wanted Ramsey over zeke. Worst part it was a pick for Romo who couldnt stay healthy for 1 series. Jones' strike again
 

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They haven't scored more than 9 points against a team with a winning record without Zeke.



Jerry may be an idiot, but Zeke definitely had leverage in those negotiations.
Here's a question........If Burrows, Herbert, Allen, or any of the other real top 10 QB was our QB at the time does Zeke get that contract?
Does he dare to hold out??
I say NO on both counts!
 

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Here's a question........If Burrows, Herbert, Allen, or any of the other real top 10 QB was our QB at the time does Zeke get that contract?
Does he dare to hold out??
I say NO on both counts!

Don't be so sure. He'd probably be even more effective with those QBs backing off the defenses. He's got a huge ego. Jerry is an idiot. So, I wouldn't put it past either of them- the holdout or the big contract.
 

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Here's a question........If Burrows, Herbert, Allen, or any of the other real top 10 QB was our QB at the time does Zeke get that contract?
Does he dare to hold out??
I say NO on both counts!

Jerry would pay him regardless who is QB, Heck youre talking about thwe guy who paid jaylon Smith, DLaw, Dak Witten and romos second contract. If you are considered a face of the star you get paid. Overpaid at that
 

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They haven't scored more than 9 points against a team with a winning record without Zeke.

I am busy at the moment but i wonder if those points also coincided with a missing tyron Smith but your point is valid about dak not performing against playoff teams

Jerry may be an idiot, but Zeke definitely had leverage in those negotiations.
he did but jerry would have paid even if he didnt. Did Jaylon have leverage?
 
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We’ll start by getting this out of the way. Ezekiel Elliott is a very talented football player. He brings value to any team he is on. He is a durable running back, he is a fierce blocker in pass protection, and he can be a very productive player. The Cowboys are a better team with him on the roster, although the ability to replace him probably isn’t as hard as the Cowboys staff thinks it would be.


All of this is a long way of saying Elliott is a quality back who can help his team, but he shouldn’t be the highest paid running back in the game. Way back in 2019, the Cowboys made a mistake by handing Elliott a huge contract after he held out of training camp. That mistake haunts them to this day.

Just how miscalculated that contract was can be shown in a recent article from ESPN discussing the highest-paid players in the league at each position. They break their figures down by the highest three-year average, and highest guaranteed money. Elliott is second in average per year, and is first in guaranteed money.

Highest three-year APY:

1. Christian McCaffrey, $17.2 million

Signed: April 2020 (contract ends in 2025)

2. Ezekiel Elliott (DAL), $16 million

3. Alvin Kamara (NO), $12.7 million

Total guaranteed money:

1. Ezekiel Elliott, $50.05 million

Signed: September 2019 (contract ends in 2026)

2. Christian McCaffrey (CAR), $36.3 million

3. Alvin Kamara (NO), $34.3 million

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Full story below :
https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...e-a-bad-deal-christian-mccaffrey-alvin-kamara
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I wanted Ramsey over zeke. Worst part it was a pick for Romo who couldnt stay healthy for 1 series. Jones' strike again

My ******* wanted wentz or goff because i wanted a different QB. Turns out im glad we got the 4th rounder. and yes looking back ramsey definately should have been the pick.

Man how about this armchair GM?
Ramsey
Henry
Simmons
Dak
 

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I am busy at the moment but i wonder if those points also coincided with a missing tyron Smith but your point is valid about dak not performing against playoff teams

Didn't see that earlier.

Tyron was out against PHI and ATL. He played against the Chargers and they only scored 6 points.
 

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The article is saying they went 4-0 in the last 4 games Zeke didn't play but context is key. Those wins were against the 5-11 NYG in the last game of 2018, then in 2017 against the 6-10 Raiders, the 3-13 NYG, and the 7-9 Skins.

Not exactly wins to brag about.

A win is a win. You play the opponent on the schedule.
So according to you and this theory on who they play. Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady suck. Or am I reading that right what you are saying?
Because they beat horrible teams in their division for year after year.
AFCE and NFCN have had horrible teams the past 20 plus years.

Or does this theory only apply to Dallas?
 

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Didn't see that earlier.

Tyron was out against PHI and ATL. He played against the Chargers and they only scored 6 points.
well youll get no argument from me that dak needs to step up against winning/playoff teams and in zekes abasence but I think the whole teams does. And there have been times when hes played well and they lost the charger game in 17 was not one of them
 

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A win is a win. You play the opponent on the schedule.
So according to you and this theory on who they play. Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady suck.
Because they beat horrible teams in their division for year after year.
AFCE and NFCN have had horrible teams the past 20 plus years.

Or does this theory only apply to Dallas?

I'm referring to the assertion they were better without Zeke. The article specifically cites, "the last 4 games without Zeke." The context of those 4 games being against teams with some of the worst defenses those seasons is fair criticism, especially considering the result of the 3 previous.

You say, "a win is a win." Who said it wasn't? It's about measuring how good the team is with or without Zeke.
 

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well youll get no argument from me that dak needs to step up against winning/playoff teams and in zekes abasence but I think the whole teams does. And there have been times when hes played well and they lost the charger game in 17 was not one of them

To your point Tyron missed against the Eagles who had the #1 seed wrapped up in the last week. Zeke played and they only scored 6 against the Eagles backups. Beat that season's champ, though. So that's on the resume.
 

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I'm referring to the assertion they were better without Zeke. The article specifically cites, "the last 4 games without Zeke." The context of those 4 games being against teams with some of the worst defenses those seasons is fair criticism, especially considering the result of the 3 previous.

You say, "a win is a win." Who said it wasn't? It's about measuring how good the team is with or without Zeke.
honestly I think its more of a testiment to the line. any number of backs could have come in and acheived Zekes numbers. That said Zeke was a beast in his first 3 years.
 
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