Opinions on Cowboys Defense Against TB Run

[raven55]

every team that's good is gonna ram the football down the cowboys throat that is a proven receipt and from what i see the defense is fairly decent except the run. the problem is that you got one corner under sized and fair talent and the other is good but takes a lot of chances. and the biggest problem for them is that the offense even when playing a bad teams leaves them on the field to long. the best defenses in the nfl will wear down in the 4 quarter there human and with jerry's messing around with the team and hiring the wrong coach hamburger mike it's pretty much over this season

 

[Zman5]

The best defenses can stop run AND pass.

Cowboys think they can plug in 5th rounders (who were reaches to begin with), undrafted FA or journeymen to solve the problem.

Jerry and Stephen just do not value NT position. This is not a Marinelli issue, it's a Jones issue.

No doubt. We don't have the best defense. But to be honest, if someone would have said our defense will keep the Buc to 19 points, I would have taken it.

 

[DuncanIso]

LVE consistently got trucked as well. He still struggles at POA especially when trying to disengage blockers.

dont get the LVE hate.

He led the team in tackles.

 

[CowboyFrog]

We got bullied pretty badly. We are pretty weak overall and it showed. Then you see how our second best defender on the team (Diggs) treats run defense and you know it is gonna be a long season. Hope baby Diggs didn't get too used to all that air time he had last year cause it ain't lookin good so far.

This is not a new hot topic, good OC's used to do it to Prime all the time...kinda like body blows in a boxing match....line them up motion to get the cover corner on the edge....DQ will work this out were a Saftey will rotate down and Diggs travels...I dont want Diggs taking on lead block 30% of the time on defense he will get hurt.

 

[JBS]

Whenever depth is hyped up, always be very cautious. If you tell us how much depth you have while avoiding how much actual talent there is, probably not a good thing. Any team can stockpile a bunch of DLinemean. Doesn't mean they will be good. Our DL is below average in skill. And soft against the run yet again.

The defense as a whole only played ok situationally. Meaning they were able to force Tampa to kick some FGs instead of TDs. But Tampa drove up and down the field all night. We got no real pressure outside of Parsons. And this is with Tampa's makeshift OL. They had WRs open all game. We did not allow a punt until the 3rd. Where was some quick 3 and outs? It's not a recipe for success just to continue to let a team drive up and down the field for points.

drive up and down the field isn’t situational football. They were excellent situationally. But yes, your point remains. It’s not a stout defense by any means.

 

[Creeper]

Did Sam Williams play?

Yes, a little. He made a nice play on a run to the right side of the D but he got lost one a few plays on the left, including that Julio Jones end around. Small sample size but he seems to be more comfortable on the right side.

There was one running play by the Bucs where 3 guys blocked Williams and pushed him back 7 or 8 yards, as would be expected. But it makes you wonder, if 3 guys a blocking 1 guy, where is everyone else.

 

[Creeper]

dont get the LVE hate.

He led the team in tackles.

He was awful. So many of those Fornette runs for 10, 15 yards were LVE not finding the ball carrier or getting blocked out. He was slow to react to the plays. He looked so much better at the end of last year.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Analysis from a different perspective: The point total was a bit low because we couldn't score, so they went w/ a ball control type O. No reason to pass and ring up more points when controlling the TOP is working so well. No matter how you slice it, giving up 150 yds rushing is a bad D performance.

You gotta get this FF stuff that yds don't matter out of your head. It's simply not correct. If you cannot stop a team, then you will give up points. All championship D's start w/ stopping the run. W/ not giving up tons of yards.

It's not that yards matter more than points, it's that it all matters. On this site, since we can't stop the run, people have instilled this weird idea in their minds that only points matter. Our D only gave up only 23 pts to SF. Why'd we lose then, if only points matter? Think about that.

We lost against San Fran because of the O lol.

And we can talk about what a championship D is.....I don't think we have a championship D. We have a very good defense. So I criticize them as much. You can't criticize a D because they aren't as good as a championship D.


You're telling me if a team goes down the field for 99 yards.....and you give up 3 points....you're upset about the 3 points? Man i'll take that any day out of the week. This is 2022 not 1992.

 

[kskboys]

You commit more players to stopping the run and TB12 will burn you for a quick score. Our offense couldn't do squat and last thing you want to do is give up a quick score. Did you even watch the game?

According to what you just typed in, you cannot read. Of course, what can you expect from a poster who's only defense is a gradeschool facepalm thingie?

 

[kskboys]

We lost against San Fran because of the O lol.

And we can talk about what a championship D is.....I don't think we have a championship D. We have a very good defense. So I criticize them as much. You can't criticize a D because they aren't as good as a championship D.


You're telling me if a team goes down the field for 99 yards.....and you give up 3 points....you're upset about the 3 points? Man i'll take that any day out of the week. This is 2022 not 1992.

You are attempting to use one series to make a point. Point not made.

No. However, you sound as if you're fine w/ letting the other team drive 99 yds at will. You will lose a lot of games that way, as your D will be completely gassed by the 4th, and sooner or later those FGs will turn into TD's.

 

[kskboys]

We lost against San Fran because of the O lol.

And we can talk about what a championship D is.....I don't think we have a championship D. We have a very good defense. So I criticize them as much. You can't criticize a D because they aren't as good as a championship D.


You're telling me if a team goes down the field for 99 yards.....and you give up 3 points....you're upset about the 3 points? Man i'll take that any day out of the week. This is 2022 not 1992.

We allowed SF to run all over us, and that was a big factor in the loss. Man, how do you guys not get this? Allowing teams to run all over you leads to losses.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You are attempting to use one series to make a point. Point not made.

No. However, you sound as if you're fine w/ letting the other team drive 99 yds at will. You will lose a lot of games that way, as your D will be completely gassed by the 4th, and sooner or later those FGs will turn into TD's.

You will win a lot of games giving up 19 points. You can talk hypotheticals but the fact is they gave up 19 points. They did with the offense sucking. If the offense gave them more support maybe they could've forced the Bucc's to pass more and run less.

The FG's never turned into TD's. They were field goals.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We allowed SF to run all over us, and that was a big factor in the loss. Man, how do you guys not get this? Allowing teams to run all over you leads to losses.

Scoring 3 points will lead to far more losses than giving up 150 rushing yards. I can't believe I have to even argue this.....it makes no sense.......

 

[kskboys]

Scoring 3 points will lead to far more losses than giving up 150 rushing yards. I can't believe I have to even argue this.....it makes no sense.......

You are absolutely right.

I believe you are mistaking me for someone else, someone who claimed the D was the biggest culprit. Our O was absolutely awful, and by far the biggest reason for this loss. However, the D was not good and still can't stop the run.

Giving up tons of yards leads to losses. That is simply the truth. And no, you shouldn't argue against that, it's too obvious.

 

[kskboys]

You will win a lot of games giving up 19 points. You can talk hypotheticals but the fact is they gave up 19 points. They did with the offense sucking. If the offense gave them more support maybe they could've forced the Bucc's to pass more and run less.

The FG's never turned into TD's. They were field goals.

Yes. However, the point remains, your D cannot let teams drive up and down the field if you want to win. That is silly.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You are absolutely right.

I believe you are mistaking me for someone else, someone who claimed the D was the biggest culprit. Our O was absolutely awful, and by far the biggest reason for this loss. However, the D was not good and still can't stop the run.

Giving up tons of yards leads to losses. That is simply the truth. And no, you shouldn't argue against that, it's too obvious.

Giving up tons of yards but allowing less than 20 points does not lead to losses lol. It just doesn't.

 

[Zman5]

According to what you just typed in, you cannot read. Of course, what can you expect from a poster who's only defense is a gradeschool facepalm thingie?

And according to what you type, you have no clue how defenses work in football.
I'll give you a hint. It's not just simple as committing more players to stop the run or pass.
The ultimate goal for the defense is limiting the opposing team from scoring.
I guess that simple concept is too hard for you to understand.

 

[Sully]

I know the Cowboys gave up a lot of yards rushing last night. Was it scheme, ability, or something else?

The defense looked pretty decent against the run at times last night. Other times it looked like a sieve.

State your case as to the “why”. Thanks in advance.

LVE is lost @ MLB....he guesses

 

[kskboys]

Giving up tons of yards but allowing less than 20 points does not lead to losses lol. It just doesn't.

Did we allow less than 20, or did they slow the game down because our O was so bad and our run D was so bad? You gotta look at the whole pic. There was no reason for them to do more. Our D didn't stop them.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yes. However, the point remains, your D cannot let teams drive up and down the field if you want to win. That is silly.

You faced the Bucc's. I'm not sure what you wanted the defense to do against them. Yes, the rush total was high. They gave up 347 total yards......not the worst at all.