Opinions on Cowboys Defense Against TB Run

[Silver N Blue]

Any decent DLine would've eaten up TB's traffic cones. We couldn't even touch Brady. Very sad.

Hey, you guys who were spewing how good our DLine is, any chance you watched the game?

Excuses should be forbidden it is absolutely sad watching what this great franchise has turned into.

 

[Zman5]

It's not about options, and your facepalm is really weak, dude. Try something better.

Listen closely. If you cannot stop the run, then you must commit more players to stopping it. That's why we were giving up those passes. You speak as if the two are not related, when in fact they are hand in hand.

You commit more players to stopping the run and TB12 will burn you for a quick score. Our offense couldn't do squat and last thing you want to do is give up a quick score. Did you even watch the game?

 

[CowboyRoy]

I know the Cowboys gave up a lot of yards rushing last night. Was it scheme, ability, or something else?

The defense looked pretty decent against the run at times last night. Other times it looked like a sieve.

State your case as to the “why”. Thanks in advance.

Teh defense did NOT look good against the run buddy. They got consistently mauled on the right side where Armstrong is. We are weak there. Gregory was definitely missed in the pass rush over there.

 

[Plankton]

I know the Cowboys gave up a lot of yards rushing last night. Was it scheme, ability, or something else?

The defense looked pretty decent against the run at times last night. Other times it looked like a sieve.

State your case as to the “why”. Thanks in advance.

They clearly saw a weakness running to the offense's left/defense's right. They targeted both Dorance Armstrong and Trevon Diggs. Armstrong did a craptastic job setting the edge, and Diggs got washed out of the plays time and time again. There was also a play where Trysten Hill was lined up at RDT, and ran right out of the gap that the run went through, and it gained 10+ yards. Armstrong and gang must do a better job at not giving a soft corner against the run, or it will get jammed down their throats more regularly.

 

[J-man]

If you listened to that idiot Chris Collinsworth they are the worst to ever play the game. I disagree. regardless of how many yards they gave up. The game got out of hand because they could do nothing on offense. The pressure mounted and the Bucs started mixing if up quite well, as good teams do. Tough to hold things down all game when you have no help on the other side.

 

[DuncanIso]

I know the Cowboys gave up a lot of yards rushing last night. Was it scheme, ability, or something else?

The defense looked pretty decent against the run at times last night. Other times it looked like a sieve.

State your case as to the “why”. Thanks in advance.

DE's lost contain on the edge.

Too worried about making sacks in the B gaps.

 

[BAT]

You commit more players to stopping the run and TB12 will burn you for a quick score. Our offense couldn't do squat and last thing you want to do is give up a quick score. Did you even watch the game?

The best defenses can stop run AND pass.

Cowboys think they can plug in 5th rounders (who were reaches to begin with), undrafted FA or journeymen to solve the problem.

Jerry and Stephen just do not value NT position. This is not a Marinelli issue, it's a Jones issue.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Anytime Diggs came up they started audible to a run right at him...The TB OC did what good OC's do they found your weakspot (Diggs in the run game) and shifted formations to make it happen...Not as good as our OC and his Triple reverse but it worked.

 

[BAT]

DE's lost contain on the edge.

Too worried about making sacks in the B gaps.

Sam Williams is more physical and better vs run than either Armstrong or Basham. Gholston at his size should be much more effective vs run as well.

But all 3 were pinned over and over and over vs Tampa.

And Bucs FB just owned LVE.

 

[Blackspider214]

Still Way too many big plays allowed for one

Local beat guys hyped up this DL and the depth all summer. That was a major fail in week 1.

The D did well situationally to minimize the points allowed

Whenever depth is hyped up, always be very cautious. If you tell us how much depth you have while avoiding how much actual talent there is, probably not a good thing. Any team can stockpile a bunch of DLinemean. Doesn't mean they will be good. Our DL is below average in skill. And soft against the run yet again.

The defense as a whole only played ok situationally. Meaning they were able to force Tampa to kick some FGs instead of TDs. But Tampa drove up and down the field all night. We got no real pressure outside of Parsons. And this is with Tampa's makeshift OL. They had WRs open all game. We did not allow a punt until the 3rd. Where was some quick 3 and outs? It's not a recipe for success just to continue to let a team drive up and down the field for points.

 

[BAT]

The biggest issue I had was with Dorrance Armstrong. He repeatedly lost outside contain and I saw little from him rushing the passer either. I’m not seeing the reason why the Cowboys paid to keep him nor why he’s out there so much. Both seem undeserved.

Armstrong was a panic signing to distract for the ish job that Stephen did when he lost Randy Gregory over an insulting clause in new contract.

Stephen talked up Armstrong and had to start him because Cowboys were forced to pivot to lesser player due to Stephen and Jerry's incompetence.

 

[BAT]

I think when Tampa realized cowboys cant move the ball or score , they went full ball control and let Fournette go full speed and their Beefy inexperienced OL go and maul people , which they did. Our Def is fast but not powerful and heavy weights , they started wearing down, also our secondary except Kearse is not run tacklers .

TB had a sound game plan and leadership.

That's what in game adjustments look like?

McCarthy will study every snap of this game I'm sure.

 

[gimmesix]

I know the Cowboys gave up a lot of yards rushing last night. Was it scheme, ability, or something else?

The defense looked pretty decent against the run at times last night. Other times it looked like a sieve.

State your case as to the “why”. Thanks in advance.

One of the things I didn't mention is that most of Tampa's success came running to the left. They had a little up the middle, but it was sporadic, which shows that the DTs played better. They ran very little to the right, which shows they wanted to stay away from Lawrence because when they didn't, it didn't go well for them. They primarily ran at Dorance Armstrong and Micah Parsons, when he lined up over left tackle. That's not a knock on Parsons because he's a space player who isn't going to be at his best when he's trying to hold the edge against run blocking by offensive linemen. More is expected of Armstrong, though, because run defense is supposed to be a strength. It also doesn't speak well of LVE as the linebacker on that side.

What we might need to do to counter this is flip Lawrence to the right side just before the snap at times so they can't just avoid him on running plays. We also might want to bring Parsons as a rusher from inside some instead of lining him up as an end. I know we were trying to take advantage of their problems at left tackle, but they reversed it on us by running at him, giving them a huge size advantage in run blocking.

However, as little as our offense did, I still think a lot of their running success just comes down to them wearing us down. Considering that we couldn't score more than three points, going to power football was the right thing to do for them. I know the announcers made it seem like it was some concerted effort on their part to run, but they had every reason to run the ball against a team that wasn't a threat to score.

 

[nalam]

That's what in game adjustments look like?

McCarthy will study every snap of this game I'm sure.

Unfortunately Mac studying it will not help , he apparently doesnt know offense ,

KM needs to see that and understand how things work at NFL…. ( Its not Boise , freestyle gimmick plays )

 

[JoeKing]

The times that TB found a hole to run through in our D-line it was most frequently because #92 Armstrong was being manhandled.

 

[Dalmations202]

JMO.
Bohanna and Gallimore should never be out of the games unless Dallas has forced them into a passing situation.
They need a legit MLB, that understands how to stack and shed, as well as shoot gaps. Parsons is awesome at rushing the passer and chasing down runners, but not a MLB, and LVE isn't one either.
Dallas is so worried with the pass, that disciplined teams can and will run against them. They spend their time in nickel and without a front 7, utilizing 6. They do not seem to understand when to use specialist.
Dallas uses undersized players, and then wonders why they keep getting pushed around.
Dallas is so worried with getting to the QB that they totally forget containment.

Basically teams are smarter than Dallas and use Dallas weaknesses against them. Wonder if Dallas will ever get coaches who are smart enough to know their own weaknesses and can game plan against the other teams weaknesses. So far from what I have seen for years, Dallas isn't very smart, nor good at evaluation.

 

[BAT]

One of the things I didn't mention is that most of Tampa's success came running to the left. They had a little up the middle, but it was sporadic, which shows that the DTs played better. They ran very little to the right, which shows they wanted to stay away from Lawrence because when they didn't, it didn't go well for them. They primarily ran out Dorance Armstrong and Micah Parsons, when he lined up over left tackle. That's not a knock on Parsons because he's a space player who isn't going to be at his best when he's trying to hold the edge against run blocking by offensive linemen. More is expected of Armstrong, though, because run defense is supposed to be a strength. It also doesn't speak well of LVE as the linebacker on that side.

What we might need to do to counter this is flip Lawrence to the right side just before the snap at times so they can't just avoid him on running plays. We also might want to bring Parsons as a rusher from inside some instead of lining him up as an end. I know we were trying to take advantage of their problems at left tackle, but they reversed it on us by running at him, giving them a huge size advantage in run blocking.

However, as little as our offense did, I still think a lot of their running success just comes down to them wearing us down. Considering that we couldn't score more than three points, going to power football was the right thing to do for them. I know the announcers made it seem like it was some concerted effort on their part to run, but they had every reason to run the ball against a team that wasn't a threat to score.

LVE consistently got trucked as well. He still struggles at POA especially when trying to disengage blockers.

 

[BAT]

JMO.
Bohanna and Gallimore should never be out of the games unless Dallas has forced them into a passing situation.
They need a legit MLB, that understands how to stack and shed, as well as shoot gaps. Parsons is awesome at rushing the passer and chasing down runners, but not a MLB, and LVE isn't one either.
Dallas is so worried with the pass, that disciplined teams can and will run against them. They spend their time in nickel and without a front 7, utilizing 6. They do not seem to understand when to use specialist.
Dallas uses undersized players, and then wonders why they keep getting pushed around.
Dallas is so worried with getting to the QB that they totally forget containment.

Basically teams are smarter than Dallas and use Dallas weaknesses against them. Wonder if Dallas will ever get coaches who are smart enough to know their own weaknesses and can game plan against the other teams weaknesses. So far from what I have seen for years, Dallas isn't very smart, nor good at evaluation.

This is exactly why I wanted Leo Chenal over Tolbert with 3rd pick.

Cowboys should also sign Noah Ellis to PS if not the 53. Ellis is not just more powerful than Ridgeway but better athlete, more fluid and plays with more natural leverage than Ridgeway.

Also great bloodlines, both dad and brother played in NFL.

 

[gimmesix]

LVE consistently got trucked as well. He still struggles at POA especially when trying to disengage blockers.

Of course, it didn't help us that Kearse got hurt. He's one of our better run defenders in that safety/linebacker role he plays. Unfortunately, he's supposed to be out several weeks.

 

[MyFairLady]

We got bullied pretty badly. We are pretty weak overall and it showed. Then you see how our second best defender on the team (Diggs) treats run defense and you know it is gonna be a long season. Hope baby Diggs didn't get too used to all that air time he had last year cause it ain't lookin good so far.