The 4th down throw was behind Brown

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What was arguably the biggest play in the game was really a late throw across the middle that Noah reached back and snatched out of the air.. Then the TD was high and outside and Brown had to climb the ladder a bit to go get it. Yet people have been downright giddy about how Rush "hit receivers in stride" and all that thinly veiled shots at Dak noise. If Dak makes that same throw to Brown all we would have heard was how if he woulda led him he would have had a chance to run after the catch. In reality throwing it behind was absolute the right ball placement because if he leads him Noah probably gets blown up by the safety and maybe even gets the ball dislodged and Cincy has the ball at our 40 yard line. It's probably a very different ballgame then.

The point of this is that you people talkin bout how well Rush threw the ball must have been getting a beer on the 5-6 near INTs he tossed. And why do I mention near INTs? Because people were beside themselves when Dak had a similar total of near misses in a game last season. And if I'm not mistaken we won that game too. This is not to disparage the game Rush had.. He had a nice game as a backup. He managed the game and didn't LOSE it. And made 5-6 throws when he absolutely had to in order to win it. I call that "Eli Manninging." I hope he does it 4-5 more times..
 

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Yeah I agree with all of this. Rush got the job done, but he wasn’t out there making tons of plays and throwing darts. Could have easily had 2-3 picks on plays that hit Bengal players in the hands. He got the job done though, and I hope he keeps doing that. That’s what a backup needs to do.
 

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What was arguably the biggest play in the game was really a late throw across the middle that Noah reached back and snatched out of the air.. Then the TD was high and outside and Brown had to climb the ladder a bit to go get it. Yet people have been downright giddy about how Rush "hit receivers in stride" and all that thinly veiled shots at Dak noise. If Dak makes that same throw to Brown all we would have heard was how if he woulda led him he would have had a chance to run after the catch. In reality throwing it behind was absolute the right ball placement because if he leads him Noah probably gets blown up by the safety and maybe even gets the ball dislodged and Cincy has the ball at our 40 yard line. It's probably a very different ballgame then.

The point of this is that you people talkin bout how well Rush threw the ball must have been getting a beer on the 5-6 near INTs he tossed. And why do I mention near INTs? Because people were beside themselves when Dak had a similar total of near misses in a game last season. And if I'm not mistaken we won that game too. This is not to disparage the game Rush had.. He had a nice game as a backup. He managed the game and didn't LOSE it. And made 5-6 throws when he absolutely had to in order to win it. I call that "Eli Manninging." I hope he does it 4-5 more times..
Yup.

I just found it incredibly telling how Romo twisted and contorted to make it sound like a great throw.

He has an agenda.
 

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I understand the point of this thread

and this comment isn’t meant towards the OP

but the people who nitpick completions are absolute idiots

Yeah that was kinda part of my overarching point. These idiots do it ALL THE TIME with Dak. The guy completed 68% of his passes last season but these idiots still complain that he "not accurate." I mean can you imagine if he were actually accurate? He'd complete 85-90% of his passes!
 

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Yup.

I just found it incredibly telling how Romo twisted and contorted to make it sound like a great throw.

He has an agenda.


Yeah that was pretty funny. I was like "Um dude, if Noah Brown doesn't contort his body to reach back for that thing it's an incomplete pass and we're all calling McCarthy an idiot on Monday. "
 

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In a perfect situation you would like your backup quarterback to have somewhat the same skill set as your starter. Rush isn't as mobile as Dak but thank the football gods he's as inaccurate as Dak:laugh:
 

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So the QB making 1 million dollars makes the same kind of throws that the 40 million QB makes. What’s makes #4 worth that much more?

Well you can start with the fact that he can make MORE of those throws more consistently and he operates the offense at a much higher level. Cooper Rush has two starts and the offense has scored 20 points in both of them. Dak has had the offense averaging over 30 ppg over his last 20+ starts. I'm no football genius but I think you win more games averaging 30 than you do averaging 20. But maybe I'm wrong. But remember that two year stretch when the Cowboys didn't win a single game in which they failed to score 30 points? How many of those would they have won scoring 20?

I know it's tough math but you can do it.. I got faith in ya.
 

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What was arguably the biggest play in the game was really a late throw across the middle that Noah reached back and snatched out of the air.. Then the TD was high and outside and Brown had to climb the ladder a bit to go get it. Yet people have been downright giddy about how Rush "hit receivers in stride" and all that thinly veiled shots at Dak noise. If Dak makes that same throw to Brown all we would have heard was how if he woulda led him he would have had a chance to run after the catch. In reality throwing it behind was absolute the right ball placement because if he leads him Noah probably gets blown up by the safety and maybe even gets the ball dislodged and Cincy has the ball at our 40 yard line. It's probably a very different ballgame then.

The point of this is that you people talkin bout how well Rush threw the ball must have been getting a beer on the 5-6 near INTs he tossed. And why do I mention near INTs? Because people were beside themselves when Dak had a similar total of near misses in a game last season. And if I'm not mistaken we won that game too. This is not to disparage the game Rush had.. He had a nice game as a backup. He managed the game and didn't LOSE it. And made 5-6 throws when he absolutely had to in order to win it. I call that "Eli Manninging." I hope he does it 4-5 more times..

Different standards. Fans expect a franchise quarterback to actually hit receivers in stride. When a backup QB whom most wanted to cut after the preseason just completes the ball, well, that's a great throw.

A lot of us went into this game expecting to lose with this backup QB. The fact that we didn't causes us to overlook the details. Conversely, when we lose, every bad throw gets picked apart, especially when your QB is supposed to be one of the strengths of your team. We know that going back to Romo, where he could play great and make one mistake in a loss and some would harp on the one mistake. Never mind that we should have won because of his great play otherwise.

Fans are unreasonable when it comes to QBs. (Some are unreasonable about pretty much anything.)
 

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Yeah that was pretty funny. I was like "Um dude, if Noah Brown doesn't contort his body to reach back for that thing it's an incomplete pass and we're all calling McCarthy an idiot on Monday. "
You watch any qb in the league....ANY....thry throw the ball behind, high etc.

These people act like Dak is the only one. It is comical.
 

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Different standards. Fans expect a franchise quarterback to actually hit receivers in stride. When a backup QB whom most wanted to cut after the preseason just completes the ball, well, that's a great throw.

A lot of us went into this game expecting to lose with this backup QB. The fact that we didn't causes us to overlook the details. Conversely, when we lose, every bad throw gets picked apart, especially when your QB is supposed to be one of the strengths of your team. We know that going back to Romo, where he could play great and make one mistake in a loss and some would harp on the one mistake. Never mind that we should have won because of his great play otherwise.

Fans are unreasonable when it comes to QBs. (Some are unreasonable about pretty much anything.)
Romo always made more than 1 mistake per game, hence why he was termed "the gambler".
 

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Different standards. Fans expect a franchise quarterback to actually hit receivers in stride. When a backup QB whom most wanted to cut after the preseason just completes the ball, well, that's a great throw.

A lot of us went into this game expecting to lose with this backup QB. The fact that we didn't causes us to overlook the details. Conversely, when we lose, every bad throw gets picked apart, especially when your QB is supposed to be one of the strengths of your team. We know that going back to Romo, where he could play great and make one mistake in a loss and some would harp on the one mistake. Never mind that we should have won because of his great play otherwise.

Fans are unreasonable when it comes to QBs. (Some are unreasonable about pretty much anything.)

I wouldn't even be mad about overlooking the details if that was the M.O. when Dak does the same thing and wins. If Dak had put up the kind of performance that Rush did and we won on a last second FG people would have been all over him. For the two lazy throws to the flat that would have turned into pick-sixes if DBs could catch. The throw behind Noah Brown the talk all week would have been how Dak "almost cost us the game because he was late with the ball on that 4th down play.." I realize that it comes with the dinner as a Cowboys fan ( thanks Coach Garrett) ... but sometimes it's just annoying as hell.
 

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So the QB making 1 million dollars makes the same kind of throws that the 40 million QB makes. What’s makes #4 worth that much more?

Dak is not worth $40M but the Joneses hate grooming QBs. The Patriots drafted 10 QBs during Tom Brady's tenure including Jimmy Garappolo, Matt Cassel, Ryan Mallet, and Jacoby Brissett.
 

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Different standards. Fans expect a franchise quarterback to actually hit receivers in stride. When a backup QB whom most wanted to cut after the preseason just completes the ball, well, that's a great throw.

A lot of us went into this game expecting to lose with this backup QB. The fact that we didn't causes us to overlook the details. Conversely, when we lose, every bad throw gets picked apart, especially when your QB is supposed to be one of the strengths of your team. We know that going back to Romo, where he could play great and make one mistake in a loss and some would harp on the one mistake. Never mind that we should have won because of his great play otherwise.

Fans are unreasonable when it comes to QBs. (Some are unreasonable about pretty much anything.)
Ya, very happy with Rush's performance.

This is just to point out the ridiculous hypocrisy of the vocal minority on this site that hate Dak.
 

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I understand the point of this thread

and this comment isn’t meant towards the OP

but the people who nitpick completions are absolute idiots
Not really. Rush showing why he's a backup bus driver - his darts looked like limp noodles. First half good - 2nd half putrid.
 

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Some people just don't like the truth that most of us have already known, and that is most average QBs can do what Dak can do. That would be fine if Dak wasn't getting paid like an elite QB now and for years to come, because most QBs aren't elite. I see Rush stand in that pocket unafraid, I see him look off the first read, I see him throw down the field with ease. Dak doesn't do any of those things well. And I don't care what anyone says, we lose that Cincy game with Dak.
 
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