What's Funny to me about Rush vs Prescott

[Cboyfan4ever]

I think he does things better than Dak and Dak does things better than him.

1. I think Dak, even after the injury, is still more mobile that Rush. But then Rush offsets that by getting the ball out quicker and not needing to be as mobile.

2. I think it's obvious to anyone that Rush reads a defense better also.

3. To me it seems Rush will take the "right" play over the big play opportunity. Personally, I like that approach more. I like the slow, time consuming, 10+ play drives that ends in points.

4. Dak seems to be the more big play threat, but then again, not enough sample size from Rush. CeeDee did drop a big play easy TD from Rush though.

The sample size is really too small with Rush to confidently be able to say he's definitively more talented than Dak.

To me it seems Rush will take the "right" play over the big play opportunity. Personally, I like that approach more. I like the slow, time consuming, 10+ play drives that ends in points. It reminds me of the 2014 and 2016 teams.

At the end of the day for me it all boils down to Cooper Rush being the unknown. We don't know what he can or cannot be right now. We don't know what he can be the more comfortable he gets and the more work he gets with the 1's.

We known what we're getting with Dak. I challenge anyone to show me a QB that has made drastic improvements in year 7, with 1 major injury, and minor injuries raking up. It just don't happen.

Dak is certainly more mobile,but he rarely uses his legs anymore.Part of the problem w/ Dak trying for the big play is that doesn’t always see things well and will result in him holding the ball too long and taking some really bad sacks.

 

[McKDaddy]

Dak hangs 40 on that Giants team.

Dak has done bupkus since the Denver game last year. So, I'm not sure how recent reality justifies assuming he can put up 40 on anyone. He certainly couldn't find a completion to these receivers in game 1.

One player is in his 7th year as a starter & one is about to make his 4th start yet there is open discussion trying to determine exactly what the incumbent does better. The answers aren't exactly flattering.

If you wanna believe Dak is a special player, fine. But perhaps you might want to take a moment and ask if you are lying to yourself.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Dak has done bupkus since the Denver game last year. So, I'm not sure how recent reality justifies assuming he can put up 40 on anyone. He certainly couldn't find a completion to these receivers in game 1.

One player is in his 7th year as a starter & one is about to make his 4th start yet there is open discussion trying to determine exactly what the incumbent does better. The answers aren't exactly flattering.

If you wanna believe Dak is a special player, fine. But perhaps you might want to take a moment and ask if you are lying to yourself.

Whenever Dak is injured he become this mythological character of Dan Marino and Tom Brady mixed to the Dallas Prescott fans.

Remember 2020 when he got injured, but if he was healthy he was going to throw for 6,000 yards and 60 TDs?

The fact they are making Cooper Rush smear posts shows how insecure they are about Dak's abilities but they don't know what else to do. Dak is not just letting the Cowboys down, he's letting all his believers down, and they're clearly hurting.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Let me start out by saying that there is literally NOTHING that Cooper Rush does better than Dak Prescott. NOTHING. Lie to yourselves if you want to. Allow your biases against Dak to cloud your thinking all you want but there is nothing Rush does better. He plays within his own ability and doesn't try to do to much and manages to do just enough. That's his job. Yes, I give him props for that, he deserves it.

The funny thing to me is, the same people who are pumping up Cooper Rush are the people who saw him in training camp and in the preseason, who were screaming from the rooftops for Will Grier to be handed the backup QB job. That's not hilarious to anyone else? Yall think he's just a guy that turns it on with lights on?

So all of a sudden, Dak gets hurt, and Cooper Rush comes in and performs the role of a substitute teacher and we happen to win two games and now he's better? All he's been asked to do is follow the teacher's lesson plan and not let the kids burn down the classroom. THAT'S IT! We've scored two touchdowns in the last seven quarters and all of a sudden, he gives us a better chance to win. We lose these games easily if not for the defensive efforts we have gotten. Dak hangs 40 on that Giants team. Make it make sense. I got a BC powder for your eventual headaches.

Stop this ridiculousness.

Disagree completely. Dak Prescott has the higher ceiling and has better physical tools, but Cooper Rush has played the role of quarterback better in a small sample size. We can debate the why behind it, but it's pretty easy to look at how the offense ran down the back stretch of the season last year and three games Rush has started and see a difference. We could list a million reasons, from KM calling poor games, Dak pressing, Rush performing the basics better, etc, and to be honest it is probably a combination of all of them to some extent.

Last time Dak played the Giants the Cowboys put up 21 points and threw for about 230 yards so just to assume he has played to a point where he steps on the field and puts up 40k at will is just being a Dak homer. Not saying he can't, he has shown that he is capable, but recent Dak Prescott hasnt given us that type of production. And to be honest the Cowboys were a dropped pass and a blown PI call away from another 10 points Monday.

Dak and this offense carried this team through the New England game last season. After he came back it was a roller coaster and really was the defense that took over games. Dak hasnt been the "teacher" and Rush the "sub". Dak has been a very middle of the road QB his last 12 games, Rush has been the teacher. He has the physical skills of a typical backup QB, but he reads and reacts like a prime peyton manning.

I'm not saying Rush should be awarded the starting job after two weeks, but I will say the Cowboys should ride the hot hand the next couple weeks as long as they are winning with Rush. If teams adjust and Washington completely exposes him this week it isnt even a question about Rush vs Dak. If Rush looks really good this week and doesnt drop off against the Rams THEN I think we can have a more realistic conversation about him being better and needing to take over for Dak. Until then we need to tap the breaks. Mike White was the savior for the Jets last year until all of a sudden he wasn't. Teams have more film on Rush every week and how the Cowboys are scheming with him in the game. Ride the wave, and if success continues we can talk. Rush has been better than Dak has been in recent history, but dont be surprised as well if Rush ends up hitting a brick wall as teams adjust.

 

[Doomsday101]

Dak has done bupkus since the Denver game last year. So, I'm not sure how recent reality justifies assuming he can put up 40 on anyone. He certainly couldn't find a completion to these receivers in game 1.

One player is in his 7th year as a starter & one is about to make his 4th start yet there is open discussion trying to determine exactly what the incumbent does better. The answers aren't exactly flattering.

If you wanna believe Dak is a special player, fine. But perhaps you might want to take a moment and ask if you are lying to yourself.

Really after the Denver game? He threw 19 TD after denver game, posted games over 30 points 4 times and 27 points or better in 6 games as well as over 50 points in a couple of games after Denver.

 

[MarcusRock]

What's funny is watching all of you twist yourselves in knots over this when nothing any of you feel affects anything. Can you not just be entertained by the games? Lol.

 

[USArmyVet]

Really after the Denver game? He threw 19 TD after denver game, posted games over 30 points 4 times and 27 points or better in 6 games as well as over 50 points in a couple of games after Denver.

After the Denver game, Dak led Dallas to 43 points against Atlanta, 56 points against Washington, and 51 points against Philly (who admittedly threw the game by playing reserves for draft position). The 19 TD's you referenced, 11 of those TD's came in those 3 games. In the other 6 games Dak threw 8 TD's and 5 INT's.

 

[Doomsday101]

After the Denver game, Dak led Dallas to 43 points against Atlanta, 56 points against Washington, and 51 points against Philly (who admittedly threw the game by playing reserves for draft position). The 19 TD's you referenced, 11 of those TD's came in those 3 games. In the other 6 games Dak threw 8 TD's and 5 INT's.

6 and 3 over the course of those game. No mastter how you cut it this team was still winning football games

 

[JoeKing]

Let me start out by saying that there is literally NOTHING that Cooper Rush does better than Dak Prescott. NOTHING. Lie to yourselves if you want to. Allow your biases against Dak to cloud your thinking all you want but there is nothing Rush does better. He plays within his own ability and doesn't try to do to much and manages to do just enough. That's his job. Yes, I give him props for that, he deserves it.

The funny thing to me is, the same people who are pumping up Cooper Rush are the people who saw him in training camp and in the preseason, who were screaming from the rooftops for Will Grier to be handed the backup QB job. That's not hilarious to anyone else? Yall think he's just a guy that turns it on with lights on?

So all of a sudden, Dak gets hurt, and Cooper Rush comes in and performs the role of a substitute teacher and we happen to win two games and now he's better? All he's been asked to do is follow the teacher's lesson plan and not let the kids burn down the classroom. THAT'S IT! We've scored two touchdowns in the last seven quarters and all of a sudden, he gives us a better chance to win. We lose these games easily if not for the defensive efforts we have gotten. Dak hangs 40 on that Giants team. Make it make sense. I got a BC powder for your eventual headaches.

Stop this ridiculousness.

Don't let what your own eyes saw with Rush winning two in a row dissuade you from your Dak worship. lol Winning in the NFL should never be dismissed as you are doing. You warn against allowing our bias against Dak to cloud our thinking, yet you allow your bias for Dak to cloud yours. I'm not saying Cooper Rush is better than Dak Prescott, but I am saying winning beats the hell out of losing and we have all seen with our own eyes what each QB gives us. To deny that is the essence of insanity. Just saying.

 

[kskboys]

Disagree completely. Dak Prescott has the higher ceiling and has better physical tools, but Cooper Rush has played the role of quarterback better in a small sample size. We can debate the why behind it, but it's pretty easy to look at how the offense ran down the back stretch of the season last year and three games Rush has started and see a difference. We could list a million reasons, from KM calling poor games, Dak pressing, Rush performing the basics better, etc, and to be honest it is probably a combination of all of them to some extent.

Last time Dak played the Giants the Cowboys put up 21 points and threw for about 230 yards so just to assume he has played to a point where he steps on the field and puts up 40k at will is just being a Dak homer. Not saying he can't, he has shown that he is capable, but recent Dak Prescott hasnt given us that type of production. And to be honest the Cowboys were a dropped pass and a blown PI call away from another 10 points Monday.

Dak and this offense carried this team through the New England game last season. After he came back it was a roller coaster and really was the defense that took over games. Dak hasnt been the "teacher" and Rush the "sub". Dak has been a very middle of the road QB his last 12 games, Rush has been the teacher. He has the physical skills of a typical backup QB, but he reads and reacts like a prime peyton manning.

I'm not saying Rush should be awarded the starting job after two weeks, but I will say the Cowboys should ride the hot hand the next couple weeks as long as they are winning with Rush. If teams adjust and Washington completely exposes him this week it isnt even a question about Rush vs Dak. If Rush looks really good this week and doesnt drop off against the Rams THEN I think we can have a more realistic conversation about him being better and needing to take over for Dak. Until then we need to tap the breaks. Mike White was the savior for the Jets last year until all of a sudden he wasn't. Teams have more film on Rush every week and how the Cowboys are scheming with him in the game. Ride the wave, and if success continues we can talk. Rush has been better than Dak has been in recent history, but dont be surprised as well if Rush ends up hitting a brick wall as teams adjust.

Very nicely done.

 

[McKDaddy]

Really after the Denver game? He threw 19 TD after denver game, posted games over 30 points 4 times and 27 points or better in 6 games as well as over 50 points in a couple of games after Denver.

See @USArmyVet comment.

Like Pappy's favorite gif, it's different when you run out of those crappy teams.

 

[kskboys]

Don't let what your own eyes saw with Rush winning two in a row dissuade you from your Dak worship. lol Winning in the NFL should never be dismissed as you are doing. You warn against allowing our bias against Dak to cloud our thinking, yet you allow your bias for Dak to cloud yours. I'm not saying Cooper Rush is better than Dak Prescott, but I am saying winning beats the hell out of losing and we have all seen with our own eyes what each QB gives us. To deny that is the essence of insanity. Just saying.

Agree. Dak gives us the stats and glory and such. However, it's just not the correct formula. If Dak can even come close to doing what Rush is doing, great.

 

[G2]

Cooper Rush only goes to sleep to let the Earth rest.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Really after the Denver game? He threw 19 TD after denver game, posted games over 30 points 4 times and 27 points or better in 6 games as well as over 50 points in a couple of games after Denver.

Yeah but lets dive deeper....2021 was a season in which the Cowboys defense delivered 34....34 turnovers. That's 34 extra possessions this team got last year. The Cowboys offense was pretty terrible down the stretch last year unless they were playing terrible teams in Atlanta, the Philly backups, etc.

Does this team win against the Saints last season without 4 turnovers? They probably don't win against Washington last season without the four turnovers.

Cooper Rush, Dak Prescott, I don't really care. This team is positioned to win by playing great defense, effectively running the football, and having a QB who can make good decisions and play excellent situational football. Lying to ourselves and saying Cooper Rush is this teams MVP accomplishes nothing. Being a Dak homer and pretending that he was stellar after coming back from injury last year accomplishes nothing. We have a talented QB in Prescott who isn't playing well consistently and we have a fringe QB in Rush who has won for a short period of time by doing the little things really well.

 

[USArmyVet]

6 and 3 over the course of those game. No mastter how you cut it this team was still winning football games

The combined record of teams beaten in those 6 games: 43-59

The combined record of the teams lost to in those 3 games: 33-18

Interesting and I would expect Dak to have beaten the bad teams as he usually does while losing against good teams.

 

[Ken]

Amazing the amount of energy and emotions of those that support Dak more than the Cowboys pour into these threads. They can't appreciate what Rush is doing to help Dallas win and instead of cheering for the franchise they attack those who would dare have questions about Dak or celebrate the Cowboys with anyone but Dak at QB.

Ya, it is only ok when the peanut gallery derives joy out of Dak and the Cowboy's failures.

They have been doing it for years.

 

[McKDaddy]

6 and 3 over the course of those game. No mastter how you cut it this team was still winning football games

QB or the team was winning? You quoted QB stats so that's what was answered.

In those games we won & stats were put up, are you saying Rush, Brissett, Geno Smith, etc., couldn't have done the same? Point being, beating up on hapless teams doesn't validate a QB.

 

[Doomsday101]

Don't let what your own eyes saw with Rush winning two in a row dissuade you from your Dak worship. lol Winning in the NFL should never be dismissed as you are doing. You warn against allowing our bias against Dak to cloud our thinking, yet you allow your bias for Dak to cloud yours. I'm not saying Cooper Rush is better than Dak Prescott, but I am saying winning beats the hell out of losing and we have all seen with our own eyes what each QB gives us. To deny that is the essence of insanity. Just saying.

As I said before come Sunday regardless of who is starting those are my Cowboys, I pull for the team to win, I pull for players to go out and make plays be it Rush, Prescott or Grier. I pull for Donavan Wilson as much as I pull for Kearse.

 

[JoeKing]

As I said before come Sunday regardless of who is starting those are my Cowboys, I pull for the team to win, I pull for players to go out and make plays be it Rush, Prescott or Grier. I pull for Donavan Wilson as much as I pull for Kearse.

Go, Cowboys! Win! Win! Win!

 

[Doomsday101]

QB or the team was winning? You quoted QB stats so that's what was answered.

In those games we won & stats were put up, are you saying Rush, Brissett, Geno Smith, etc., couldn't have done the same? Point being, beating up on hapless teams doesn't validate a QB.

I quoted QB stats after the comment that Dak could not put up big numbers after the Denver game. That is load of BS because the fact is he did. Winning and losing is about team and QB as important as they are still relies heavy on players around them. They have nothing to do with the play of defense yet defense is a key part of any team.