Video: Jimmy Johnson Speaks about Lamb route

Doomsday101

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Again.... a receiver supposed to flatten the route in front of the safety when a safety is coming down. This is what their taught from the high school level..... Shannon Sharpe and Michael Irvin are both Hall of Fame route runners who said the same thing.

Thing is Lamb did flatten it out went across the safety face later in that same game. During the broadcast they showed Lamb and Dak discussing it on the sideline after the ints. Later on the same play is ran and this time Lamb does exactly what he was supposed to do. A mistake was made and the mistake was corrected. Right now you just have people wanting to put blame on Dak or Lamb but to me seeing the 2 talking it out and then seeing results play out later in the game means more to me.
 

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IF you watched the video and went to where I said and looked at everything are you still perfectly fine with Dak's decision? When you look at all the options there do you believe Dak went to the right guy on that play?

You prefer Dak throw that pass to CeeDee that required him and CeeDee to be on the same page over the wide-open check downs and the wide open, probable TD, down the sideline?

Are you willing to at the very least say that both CeeDee and Dak messed up on that one?


You always go to the easier play, that's self explanatory. Dak had easier options on that play to answer the question, and had CD ran the route correctly, it wouldn't have even been a topic of discussion. So if you want to say Dak was wrong for not going elsewhere with the ball, I have no problem with that.

Here's the thing that puzzles me though. Wasn't Dak accused of not taking chances and making the tough throws (which was false).

So when he does go for the tough throw trusting his "top receiver" to run the route correctly,.... you see where I'm going with this???
 

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In fact, click on the picture to zoom in. Lamb is actually starting to make his break inside. The ball is STILL CLOSE TO DAK’S HIP.

So why hasn’t Dak released it based on the fact it was an option route? I’ll tell you why. As far as Dak is concerned, he wasn’t paying attention to anything outside Lamb and was just waiting for him to be open before throwing it.

Everything was late as far as Dak is concerned, from reading the defense, to delivering late, to supposedly not being on the page as Lamb.

That’s why the defense had zero problems intercepting the ball.


Are you able to post a screen cap of 17:35 of that Warner video?

I feel like that needs to be seen by more people here.

We don't need Warner commentary because you can easily see with your own eyes what should've happened, but what was happening.

3 guys all going to be wide open while Dak is staring down CeeDee with the LB and 2 safeties all seeing it.
 

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Thing is Lamb did flatten it out went across the safety face later in that same game. During the broadcast they showed Lamb and Dak discussing it on the sideline after the ints. Later on the same play is ran and this time Lamb does exactly what he was supposed to do. A mistake was made and the mistake was corrected. Right now you just have people wanting to put blame on Dak or Lamb but to me seeing the 2 talking it out and then seeing results play out later in the game means more to me.


I definitely agree. No quarterback is perfect.

But it's extremely hilarious to me how so many here are actually arguing with the experience of Hall of Fame route runners. That's sad when one's hate tries to defy logic. It's entertaining to watch however.
 

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Again.... a receiver supposed to flatten the route in front of the safety when a safety is coming down. This is what their taught from the high school level..... Shannon Sharpe and Michael Irvin are both Hall of Fame route runners who said the same thing.
Thats fine....i didnt object to that.

"Again"....a qb has to know what route and where the receiver is ..among many other things. If you dont agree with kurt Warner....fine. but hes every bit as knowledgeable and capable as the other two.
 

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You always go to the easier play, that's self explanatory. Dak had easier options on that play to answer the question, and had CD ran the route correctly, it wouldn't have even been a topic of discussion. So if you want to say Dak was wrong for not going elsewhere with the ball, I have no problem with that.

Here's the thing that puzzles me though. Wasn't Dak accused of not taking chances and making the tough throws (which was false).

So when he does go for the tough throw trusting his "top receiver" to run the route correctly,.... you see where I'm going with this???
Ya can't just own it can ya? That's fine lol

You're wanting to give him credit for trying and failing to make the tough throw instead now.
 

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I definitely agree. No quarterback is perfect.

But it's extremely hilarious to me how so many here are actually arguing with the experience of Hall of Fame route runners. That's sad when one's hate tries to defy logic. It's entertaining to watch however.

Because it is more important to them to rail against Dak. No doubt Dak has thrown some poor ints and has made bad throws including this game where he was 58% completion rate. It really is a waste of time, they don't care. As I said I'm not down on CeeDee either, in my view he made a mistake, him and Dak talked about it on the sidelines after the int and running the same play later on in the game they connected with Lamb crossing the face of the safety. That 1 int did not stop Dak for going to or looking for Lamb who ended up putting up a career day with 150 and 2 TD. You have a mistake of miscommunication then yeah I expect them to work it out
 

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Oh so you are admitting that Jimmy can be wrong and his words shouldnt be taken as gospel?
Nice leading question but we woke:lmao::lmao::lmao:

Yes Jimmy can be wrong if facts dispute his opinion……the rest of that take is fluff….especially if it’s not KJV:lmao2:
 

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Ya can't just own it can ya? That's fine lol

You're wanting to give him credit for trying and failing to make the tough throw instead now.


Brooooo..... can your read???? I just said Dak should have went with the easier play with the other pass catchers on the team. If going to the more difficult CD route opposed to the other EASIER routes on that play is considered wrong, then Dak is wrong!!! I already said this though.

Now since we're answering questions, explain to us all why you post more about Dak after losses than you do after wins???

Explain to us why you type your fingers bloody in the game day threads when Dak make mistakes, but when Dak plays great and make great plays.... your keyboard goes Zero Dark 30. Why I don’t see the same level of positive responses when Dak plays well???

Why do you seem somber when we win with Dak under center?? Will you give us a breakdown on this bizarre behavior??? Or will you ignore this question like you've ignored others.

I answered your question. Dak was wrong for failing to go to the other receivers on that play.

Your turn!!!
 

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At 17:30 of that Warner video you literally see 3 guys WIDE OPEN. The one down the sideline is a possible TD.

They see it too. Anybody that watches the video sees it. You don't even have to listen to Warner tell you. You can see it with your own eyes.

It just seems their heels are dug in too deep with defending Dak that they can't admit that he messed up on that play also.

The response is "flatten the route" LOL.

It's like pleading the 5th at this point bro. You've done your best and proved it by film don't lie evidence.

My advice would be to try and move on from the Prescott family deny gang. Nothing left to prove at this point.
 

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Every season Dak is renewed with 40,000,000 fresh excuses, but he never seems to improve his game.
He's the same QB that he was in his first year.
 

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The response is "flatten the route" LOL.

It's like pleading the 5th at this point bro. You've done your best and proved it by film don't lie evidence.

My advice would be to try and move on from the Prescott family deny gang. Nothing left to prove at this point.




"just trying to help you guys understand the game" sorry Mike they don't care to understand the game, they have their own agenda
 

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Brooooo..... can your read???? I just said Dak should have went with the easier play with the other pass catchers on the team. If going to the more difficult CD route opposed to the other EASIER routes on that play is considered wrong, then Dak is wrong!!! I already said this though.

Now since we're answering questions, explain to us all why you post more about Dak after losses than you do after wins???

Explain to us why you type your fingers bloody in the game day threads when Dak make mistakes, but when Dak plays great and make great plays.... your keyboard goes Zero Dark 30. Why I don’t see the same level of positive responses when Dak plays well???

Why do you seem somber when we win with Dak under center?? Will you give us a breakdown on this bizarre behavior??? Or will you ignore this question like you've ignored others.

I answered your question. Dak was wrong for failing to go to the other receivers on that play.

Your turn!!!
I post the same amount regardless of what happens.

You're making a claim about my posting habits without any proof to back it up (weird that you even care about my posting habits when this is a Cowboys forum anyways).

I made a claim about Dak's poor decision making with provided proof to back it up (ya know, because this is a Cowboys forum and all).

Some of your buddies are the ones that have been nowhere to been seen this week on here, but I promise you won't be acting like this with then when they decide to post again.
 

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Every season Dak is renewed with 40,000,000 fresh excuses, but he never seems to improve his game.
He's the same QB that he was in his first year.

I actually think he's regressed

Back then he knew who he was and didn't feel the need to prove to everyone that he's better than he is

Now, he feels the pressure of having to justify that massive salary. Trying to prove he's "elite" shows in his play. Some folks can handle that mental burden, some can't
 

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Everyone knows it was on Lamb minus the anti Dak crowd. Players -coaches-Hall of Famers. Yet they still say Dak:laugh::huh::facepalm: Geniuses :laugh:
 

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It's just funny to me how these Dak haters hate somebody so bad that they refuse to be objective about it.

It has to be "OMG DAK SUX HE THREW AN INT HAHAHA I'M SO RIGHT!!!" vs. "Yeah I am not a big Dak fan, but Lamb definitely messed that route up."

You can dislike Dak, feel free, but sometimes not everything is his fault. Your emotions are getting in the way of being logical.
 

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It has to be exhausting defending such a lousy QB.

Meanwhile, us that don't defend his poor play don't really have to do much because Dak does all the work for us.

It must be even more exhausting to be as obsessed with someone they don’t even like, like you and some people are with Dak. Hours and hours of life spent, formulating half baked sarcastic remarks at anyone who defends him, in every thread about him. Even bringing him up in threads that aren’t about him.

It’s an interesting hobby, to say the least.
 

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It must be even more exhausting to be as obsessed with someone they don’t even like, like you and some people are with Dak. Hours and hours of life spent, formulating half baked sarcastic remarks at anyone who defends him, in every thread about him. Even bringing him up in threads that aren’t about him.

It’s an interesting hobby, to say the least.
Probably bout the same as being obsessed with someone they love and adore, like you and some people are with Dak.

You and others put in the same amount of energy when it comes to Dak. You're just of the opposite opinion.
 
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