CFZ Complete Team Loss

xwalker

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People want to narrow it down to one position group or one player or coach but it was a complete team loss.
  • Defense:
    • Struggled in regulation but stopped the Jags in overtime.
    • They have to find a way to play reasonable run defense without shutting dow the pass rush.
  • Offense:
    • Good or bad in regulation didn't matter. They only needed a Field Goal to win in OT...
  • Coaching:
    • Too aggressive. Just run then ball when you're backed up again the goalline and have the lead. The #1 way for the Jags to get back into the game is to turn the ball over in that situation. Might still have lost with Garrett as HC but it wouldn't be from throwing an INT at the worst possible time.
  • Front Office:
    • They need Tyler Smith type physical monsters at DT. Cage match Tyler vs the Cowboys entire DLine. Tyler wins. DLine all hospitalized. Let's move Jason Peters to DT...
 

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The Jaguars are 4-2 their last 6 games. During that stretch, Lawrence leads the NFL in completion %, passer rating, and TD-INT ratio.

If they beat the Jets, Texans, and Titans (again) they will win their division. They're ascending while the Cowboys have been regressing.
 

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I think HGH Lawrence could possibly be the best QB we will face again currently today, unless we make it to the SB and face Mahomes, Burrow, or Allen. That kid is on fire now. Very jealous they got Pederson as he’s a QB savant.
 

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Forget blaming Dak. Dak is not a difference maker. I don't say that to single him out. Most quarterbacks aren't. If you have a dominant team, coaching, and system, you can win. Good Lord, look at the 49ers with a 7th round pick at QB. How well does anyone think Purdy would do on the Texans?

The Cowboys won 1 playoff game with Prescott as QB. The only time Dallas had the better team, and Dak didn't do anything to lose the game. Hell, I was a huge Romo fan, but he wasn't that big of a difference maker. Not when up against better teams. That's limited to only the best QBs.
 

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People want to narrow it down to one position group or one player or coach but it was a complete team loss.
  • Defense:
    • Struggled in regulation but stopped the Jags in overtime.
    • They have to find a way to play reasonable run defense without shutting dow the pass rush.
  • Offense:
    • Good or bad in regulation didn't matter. They only needed a Field Goal to win in OT...
  • Coaching:
    • Too aggressive. Just run then ball when you're backed up again the goalline and have the lead. The #1 way for the Jags to get back into the game is to turn the ball over in that situation. Might still have lost with Garrett as HC but it wouldn't be from throwing an INT at the worst possible time.
  • Front Office:
    • They need Tyler Smith type physical monsters at DT. Cage match Tyler vs the Cowboys entire DLine. Tyler wins. DLine all hospitalized. Let's move Jason Peters to DT...

100% agree. IMO it has been an issue for a couple of weeks now. The team has been playing with fire so to speak and finding a way to squeeze out wins. IMO you can only do that for so long before it catches up with you.
 

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You can nitpick every group after every game but the defense blew it…plain and simple.

You score 34 points on the road you should win. The offense did their job.

This game was mostly on the D, but while the O put 34, they also gave the Jags 14. Our final play in regulation was a head scratcher, no matter what the analytics say. Angers punt wasn't a good one and that didn't help.

We didn't play a good game all the way around. Put it in the rear view mirror and go on to Filly. Hopefully, the sloppy play is behind us.
 

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This game was mostly on the D, but while the O put 34, they also gave the Jags 14. Our final play in regulation was a head scratcher, no matter what the analytics say. Angers punt wasn't a good one and that didn't help.

We didn't play a good game all the way around. Put it in the rear view mirror and go on to Filly. Hopefully, the sloppy play is behind us.

Win the game in regulation and it doesn’t go to over time. Plain and simple.

Defense didn’t show up.
 

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People want to narrow it down to one position group or one player or coach but it was a complete team loss.
  • Defense:
    • Struggled in regulation but stopped the Jags in overtime.
    • They have to find a way to play reasonable run defense without shutting dow the pass rush.
  • Offense:
    • Good or bad in regulation didn't matter. They only needed a Field Goal to win in OT...
  • Coaching:
    • Too aggressive. Just run then ball when you're backed up again the goalline and have the lead. The #1 way for the Jags to get back into the game is to turn the ball over in that situation. Might still have lost with Garrett as HC but it wouldn't be from throwing an INT at the worst possible time.
  • Front Office:
    • They need Tyler Smith type physical monsters at DT. Cage match Tyler vs the Cowboys entire DLine. Tyler wins. DLine all hospitalized. Let's move Jason Peters to DT...

With regard to the above, the key mistake was the Coaching
 

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The Jaguars are 4-2 their last 6 games. During that stretch, Lawrence leads the NFL in completion %, passer rating, and TD-INT ratio.

If they beat the Jets, Texans, and Titans (again) they will win their division. They're ascending while the Cowboys have been regressing.

I said they were a hot team before the game and got some rather negative feedback. They are a hot team playing with a lot of confidence right now. They made a lot of their own breaks to tie, then win that game in OT.

Having said that, Dallas made a boatload of mistakes in the last 1:30 of regulation and gave the game away. Just one play at any time during the Jags game tying drive and the Cowboys win. It was an awful performance by the entire team and coaches.
 

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People want to narrow it down to one position group or one player or coach but it was a complete team loss.
  • Defense:
    • Struggled in regulation but stopped the Jags in overtime.
    • They have to find a way to play reasonable run defense without shutting dow the pass rush.
  • Offense:
    • Good or bad in regulation didn't matter. They only needed a Field Goal to win in OT...
  • Coaching:
    • Too aggressive. Just run then ball when you're backed up again the goalline and have the lead. The #1 way for the Jags to get back into the game is to turn the ball over in that situation. Might still have lost with Garrett as HC but it wouldn't be from throwing an INT at the worst possible time.
  • Front Office:
    • They need Tyler Smith type physical monsters at DT. Cage match Tyler vs the Cowboys entire DLine. Tyler wins. DLine all hospitalized. Let's move Jason Peters to DT...
Well said X. This front office….after years and years of evidence still some how don’t seem to understand the importance of having monster DTs that can maul offensive lineman and stop the run. They’re obsessed with pass rushing “war daddys” who are nice to have but if you can’t stop the run, they’re neutered.
 

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You can nitpick every group after every game but the defense blew it…plain and simple.

You score 34 points on the road you should win. The offense did their job.
A pick 6 in OT when you have the ball at midfield and only need a FG to win the game says otherwise to me. The Offense was not free from blame in this game
 

nalam

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You can nitpick every group after every game but the defense blew it…plain and simple.

You score 34 points on the road you should win. The offense did their job.

it was not all offense , D got 3 turnovers ? So with points from TO the 1st half was smooth.

I am not excusing D, they were piss poor in this game , injuries and brain farts et all…
 

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You can nitpick every group after every game but the defense blew it…plain and simple.

You score 34 points on the road you should win. The offense did their job.

in a vacuum that’s true but in OT the defense stopped them and the offense only needs a FG to win?

That’s a failure of the offense

context is important
 

cnuball21

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A pick 6 in OT when you have the ball at midfield and only need a FG to win the game says otherwise to me. The Offense was not free from blame in this game

Never should’ve gotten there. Game should’ve been well over before then.

Defense choked.
 

cnuball21

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in a vacuum that’s true but in OT the defense stopped them and the offense only needs a FG to win?

That’s a failure of the offense

context is important

In reality it’s true. Our D gives up an average of a little under 20 a game.

They gave up 34 in regulation to a team with a losing record.

O did their job.
 

john van brocklin

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People want to narrow it down to one position group or one player or coach but it was a complete team loss.
  • Defense:
    • Struggled in regulation but stopped the Jags in overtime.
    • They have to find a way to play reasonable run defense without shutting dow the pass rush.
  • Offense:
    • Good or bad in regulation didn't matter. They only needed a Field Goal to win in OT...
  • Coaching:
    • Too aggressive. Just run then ball when you're backed up again the goalline and have the lead. The #1 way for the Jags to get back into the game is to turn the ball over in that situation. Might still have lost with Garrett as HC but it wouldn't be from throwing an INT at the worst possible time.
  • Front Office:
    • They need Tyler Smith type physical monsters at DT. Cage match Tyler vs the Cowboys entire DLine. Tyler wins. DLine all hospitalized. Let's move Jason Peters to DT...
Agreed.
We earned that loss as a team.
 

CowboyRoy

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People want to narrow it down to one position group or one player or coach but it was a complete team loss.
  • Defense:
    • Struggled in regulation but stopped the Jags in overtime.
    • They have to find a way to play reasonable run defense without shutting dow the pass rush.
  • Offense:
    • Good or bad in regulation didn't matter. They only needed a Field Goal to win in OT...
  • Coaching:
    • Too aggressive. Just run then ball when you're backed up again the goalline and have the lead. The #1 way for the Jags to get back into the game is to turn the ball over in that situation. Might still have lost with Garrett as HC but it wouldn't be from throwing an INT at the worst possible time.
  • Front Office:
    • They need Tyler Smith type physical monsters at DT. Cage match Tyler vs the Cowboys entire DLine. Tyler wins. DLine all hospitalized. Let's move Jason Peters to DT...

Nonsense, this loss was 80% with the defense. Whatever the offense did or didnt do they scored 34 points, started quickly and gave the defense a 21-7 lead. No excuses after that.
 
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