Saturday Divisional Games Thread

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So would you rather win 1 Super Bowl in 10 years, even if you only win 5 games for 5 seasons after the title, or make the playoffs 10 straight years and be eliminated?

Me? I'd sacrifice five seasons to win a Super Bowl.
I’d rather win 3 or more Super Bowls in a row.
 

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Yes. The goal is to win it all. How many teams have done this? You absolutely sell the future if it means you win it right now. This is what the Eagles did and they cashed in for 2017 season and now are halfway to another title. Who cares about draft picks if you get proven players who can produce right now. And if you see a player in the draft you really want and thinks can help mold you, yes you go for it and mortgage future draft picks.

Only loser franchises care about draft picks. Winning franchises use these as collateral to get proven players right now
 

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Not like this time.
This one isn’t close to as bad as 2016. We dumped Demarco Murray, Byron Maxwell, Kiko Alonso, Sam Bradford monster contracts after only 1 year. We traded Sam Bradford THE SAME OFFSEASON we gave him a big extension. Just took the full cap hit. Rebuilt the entire defense in 1 offseason with no money

2023 will be elementary cap management for Howie compared to that
 

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Imagine going into a divisional game thinking you can win with Richie James and Darius Slayton as your WRs.
How does Minnesota feel after this game? Lmao. They let this loser team come into their home and look like a legit team to the point where people really thought they could beat Philly and that Daniel Jones was a good QB :muttley::muttley:
 

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Yes. The goal is to win it all. How many teams have done this? You absolutely sell the future if it means you win it right now. This is what the Eagles did and they cashed in for 2017 season and now are halfway to another title. Who cares about draft picks if you get proven players who can produce right now. And if you see a player in the draft you really want and thinks can help mold you, yes you go for it and mortgage future draft picks.

Only loser franchises care about draft picks. Winning franchises use these as collateral to get proven players right now
well said
 

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This one isn’t close to as bad as 2016. We dumped Demarco Murray, Byron Maxwell, Kiko Alonso, Sam Bradford monster contracts after only 1 year. We traded Sam Bradford THE SAME OFFSEASON we gave him a big extension. Just took the full cap hit. Rebuilt the entire defense in 1 offseason with no money

2023 will be elementary cap management for Howie compared to that
Hey, the Eagles puke is here.

I guess I know who won.
 

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You know you got a special team when you can beat the Giants at home with twice as much rest.

Wow.
 

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You said it. Going all in does not guarantee a title. I’ve seen the Cowboys go all in with Roy Williams, Joey Galloway, Terrell Owen and Amari Cooper and they paid the price.
Those were not all-in years. They were somewhat in years. All in fixes your holes. We still had major holes when we acquired those players.

Making expensive additions when you don't have a team built that can go far is a bad idea unless you make enough expensive additions to put you over the top.

The Terrell Owens signing was probably the closest to matching that criteria because we had a pretty strong team overall. But imagine if we had gotten a better third receiver than Patrick Crayton at the trade deadline or had just picked up a better cornerback that Jacques Reeves. That 2007 playoff game might have turned out differently.
 

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I’d rather win 3 or more Super Bowls in a row.
That's a cop-out. Everyone would rather win 3 or more Super Bowls in a row. Show me the teams that have done it because there haven't been many, especially in the salary cap age, and then show me how to do it.

The options are 1 Super Bowl in 10 years followed by 5 bad years or 10 playoff years with no Super Bowls. Pick one.
 

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Those were not all-in years. They were somewhat in years. All in fixes your holes. We still had major holes when we acquired those players.

Making expensive additions when you don't have a team built that can go far is a bad idea unless you make enough expensive additions to put you over the top.

The Terrell Owens signing was probably the closest to matching that criteria because we had a pretty strong team overall. But imagine if we had gotten a better third receiver than Patrick Crayton at the trade deadline or had just picked up a better cornerback that Jacques Reeves. That 2007 playoff game might have turned out differently.
Trading multiple first round picks is going all in.
 

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Trading multiple first round picks is going all in.
Like the Chiefs and the Bills and the Eagles and the 9ers and the Rams do?

What do those teams have in common over the last 6 years other than trading away top assets…

13 conference championship games if I counted right. Yet this is a mistake and Dallas is doing it the right way?
 

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Yes. The goal is to win it all. How many teams have done this? You absolutely sell the future if it means you win it right now. This is what the Eagles did and they cashed in for 2017 season and now are halfway to another title. Who cares about draft picks if you get proven players who can produce right now. And if you see a player in the draft you really want and thinks can help mold you, yes you go for it and mortgage future draft picks.

Only loser franchises care about draft picks. Winning franchises use these as collateral to get proven players right now
It's also much easier to rebuild now, so you can sell out and still get back in the mix within a couple of seasons. Sustained success is difficult anyway because of free agency.
 
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