CFZ History shows you should draft a QB often

[cowboysfan99]

Recent history also shows you don't use top picks on running backs or give them massive contracts...but Jerry did both anyways.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The Cowboys almost never draft a QB. History shows it’s a foolish practice.

I've said it since Aikman left. The Cowboys should draft a QB every other year. Why wouldn't you want to invest in the most valuable position in professional sports?

 

[offlimits]

Attention Cowboys Front Office: History shows the best way to draft a QB is often.

The Cowboys should draft a QB at least every other year looking at every round. Good QBs are the absolute hardest to find which is why they are so overpaid. You never know when you will strike gold. Just thinking the good ones only happen in the first round is foolish. They happen in all rounds. Many of the greats were drafted in later rounds.

• Roger Staubach was drafted in the 10th round in 1964.
• HOFer Bart Starr of the packers was drafted in the 17th round.
• HOFER Brett Favre was drafted in the 2nd round.
• HOFer Joe Montana was taken in the 3rd round.
• Former NFL MVP Rich Gannon was drafted in round 4.
• HOFer Chiefs QB Len Dawson was drafted in the 5th round.
• The GOAT Tom Brady- 6th round.

All these greats either won SBs Or took teams to SBs.
Look at these great QBs drafted LATER in round 1:

• HOFer Dan Marino was drafted with the 27th pick.
• Future HOFer Aaron Rodgers was drafted 24th.
• Former ravens QB and SB MVP Joe Flacco was drafted 18th.
• Even Pat Mahomes was drafted 10th.

The Cowboys almost never draft a QB. History shows it’s a foolish practice.

Back in the 80's Bill Walsh would draft a QB usually in the 4th-5th rd every year.

 

[Silly]

Just like with the rumors swirling back with Manziel, Jethro suggested the morning of the draft he had no intention of drafting Romo’s heir apparent until he retired.

Jethro doesn’t want the drama attached with an heir apparent sitting in the wings placing public pressure if his Star QB struggles .

Yup. But what do you do when there is a major injury? Trot out Weeden and Cassel again? Jerry got lucky with Rush playing so well.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yup. But what do you do when there is a major injury? Trot out Weeden and Cassel again? Jerry got lucky with Rush playing so well.

An injury to your starting QB is easy for Jethro to explain a losing or disappointing season.

Much less drama than a QB controversy.

 

[Diehardblues]

8 QBs drafted in 33 years is just bananas to me. No wonder we're stuck where we are.

I totally agree that we should be drafting QBs wherever you can. Keep panning for that gold, so to speak.

The bigger story here is that we have only invested a high draft pick on a QB once since 1989. That’s unbelievable IMO.

 

[Verdict]

behind don meredith were craig morton and roger staubach.
behind staubach was danny white.
same for other positions.
coach landry created quality depth and competition.
his guys were pushed because of what was behind them.
at some point in the draft...they should draft a QB.
when you know the guy behind you wants your job...its a great motivator.

I think that is the single biggest mistake that the Cowboys have made —-failing to make the QB show up and compete every year. Why should Dak improve if his only competition is Cooper Rush?

 

[blueblood70]

Serious question:

Is Dak's ego so fragile that he can't handle legitimate competition at QB?

Or, is just a matter of JJ really and truly believing that Dak is the Chosen One.

Probably one of the worst things that happened.to this franchise is Dak's remarkable rookie season... it dulled the FO senses and ensnared their minds.

really that it you must be mine reader, you know its because of Dak they dont use the process Bobs referring too? its Dak fragile mind? his ego? so its because of Dak LMAO right, thats it...

OR!!!!!!!!!!!?????????,

Maybe its the same process the FO doesn't draft high safety's or NTs? anyone thought that this is a GM/FO philosophy right or wrong but blame the qb further!

Its much like the blame that not being put on a weak OL that not physical against the better defenses that did NOT provide Dak a Run game in 3 Straight playoff losses? inconsistent and dirty pockets, only one WR making plays , where was Gallup, Schultz 2 blunders on the last drive, Gallups not making an effort on 1st INT get basically pulled off his route allowing the db to cut under him yet he sat & watched the play instead of com,ig up to break it up or contest it? 4 times this year Gallup did that lie getting knocked down in the indy game for an INT and lastly the missed XP by our kicker.

I mean where was the run game? no physicality against the best Dls, go check the the last 3 loses in the payoffs common theme, no run game and get knocked backward and makes dirty pocket and then skill payers not contributing or worse the OL committing 11 penalty's because they are being manhandled?

sure, blame the QB that the easy and popular thing.

IMO the Offensive line is as much to blame as Prescot, hes not off the hook still could have played it safer but come on.. Daks wasn't on his own for that mess.

I'm not saying I disagree with Bobs theory BUT it ridiculous to say its because of Dak, how many high draft picks for qb were made from Aikman until Now,

how many did dak play in 1998-2015?? how many backups back then were chosen, did they know daks feelings would be hurt before he was BORN? that a joke man this qb blame game also a joke..

we had many issues on offense and starts up front. after Steele went down, having to depend on 2 older OL in peters and Tyron as well as TylerB being banged up and the musical chairs started, thats when the bigger issues started.. all Daks worst showing were game with No run game and dirty pockets and Wrs routes and bad hands came into pay.

I blame the entire offense and the pay calls 16 runs that it where was malik? where was even the effort when pollard wen todwn? this was HUGE rason the 9ers made it tough on Dak they knew no threat of run was there pay coverage , dont have to blitz and push that Line back into a mostly nonexistent pocket.

this outrs so much extra pressure on QB that its unfair just to say he is the issue and cant handle pressure.

Daks not fragile, this is the FO/GM/player personell philosophy, they rather have a vet backup or not using high draft picks on a QB when they have one under contract for long while.

 

[Diehardblues]

I think that is the single biggest mistake that the Cowboys have made —-failing to make the QB show up and compete every year. Why should Dak improve if his only competition is Cooper Rush?

And it’s why Jethro doesn’t want serious competition. He’s too busy hyping Prescott to justify his contract than bringing in a heir apparent.

I’m surprised more fans don’t see this. Proving Jethro right is more important than winning.

 

[shabazz]

Cowboys QB draft history in Jethro Jone$ era


2001 Carter 2nd rd
2007 Stanbach 4th rd( converted to secondary)
2009 McGee 4th rd
2016 Prescott 4th rd
2018 White 5th rd
2020 DiNucci 7th rd

This is the most telling story. I took off the top 2 quarterbacks to show exactly how pathetic the rest of the choices in the last 21 years……the ironic and saddest part is that an UDFA guy has been the best quarterback we’ve had in the last 21 years.

 

[Diehardblues]

Dak helps keep Jethro’s product interesting and relative. I’m sure the Jone$ were very pleased they made Divisional round . Winning our first road playoff game this era is something the old fool can sale in offseason.

Too many fans don’t lower themselves into our owners mindset which isn’t all about winning. It’s about promoting and selling his product. And Dak is a winning enough QB for him to sell. That’s really it. Pretty simple stuff.

 

[Creeper]

I can't say I disagree. Sometimes drafting a QB is just a good investment. If he turns out to be decent, maybe you can trade him and get a better pick back than what you used to get him. But with the Cowboys it is different. They are a team that uses the draft almost exclusively to stock the team with talent. They do not sign top tier free agents. The stockpile Jags hoping one or two over perform. So the Cowboys cannot afford to use draft picks as a luxury or for investment. The have to hit on all their draft picks to fill needs at all positions on the field.

It is one of the shortcomings of the Cowboys strategy. But I would definitely look for a QB in this draft. Perhaps a smart kid who just needs to sit on the bench for a couple of years to learn the game. Then the Cowboys can draft to build a dominating run game and the young kid can take over as the game manager everyone wants Dak to be.

I still think we need to draft defense, defense and more defense until we get to the point that we can stop teams like the 49ers from driving 91 yards late in the game.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is the most telling story. I took off the top 2 quarterbacks to show exactly how pathetic the rest of the choices in the last 21 years……the ironic and saddest part is that an UDFA guy has been the best quarterback we’ve had in the last 21 years.

Yep

As much as I credit Bill for resurrecting our team into a contender again, not drafting a QB was his biggest mistake . He relied on bringing in his old washed up guys like Testerverde and Bledsoe which opened the door for Romo.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

I wish the 49ers had said last spring, “We don’t need to draft a QB- we have our future in Trey Lance and also have Jimmy G.” Unfortunately they were smarter (and luckier than that)

You can’t get lucky drafting a QB if you never or rarely take one.

That's exactly it. There's no system that can identify a sure-fire pick. Therefore, any team needs a smart system of taking calculated risks. Draft QBs on a regular basis who look like they might be the guy, and watch the free agent market closely. You could hit the next Kurt Warner or Tony Romo.

 

[cowboyec]

I think that is the single biggest mistake that the Cowboys have made —-failing to make the QB show up and compete every year. Why should Dak improve if his only competition is Cooper Rush?

agreed.

 

[shabazz]

having seen the comments in this thread reminds me of he 2 greatest quarterbacks on the planet and what they mean to their respective teams, Mahomes and Burrow

this franchise isn't even close at the position. They have pedigrees and we have a mutt.

 

[blueblood70]

I think that is the single biggest mistake that the Cowboys have made —-failing to make the QB show up and compete every year. Why should Dak improve if his only competition is Cooper Rush?

cooper Rush was 5-1 so far as starter, thats not pressure? so the giant risk of drafting a QB and then you believe that rookie can push Dak and can be 5-1 as starter? how will we ever KNOW if this regularly drafted a new qb is any good at all until they play for long period? curious, any common sense being used to determine simply drafting qb put pressure on a qb to pay better? wouldn't they have to be better to do this? so many and i mean a majority of qbs drafted are not better then dak and most are busts or career backups, even top 10 guys , Busts..

BTW didnt we draft Dak behind romo isnt that doing what Bob is suggesting.

we ended up having the bridge and IMO that worked out. that 4th rounder and Romo was a UDFA.. those aren't high draft picks. them bringing in Mike white and cutting him then fans saying they should have kept him now he looks bad again. its that tough to get a qb , you want the FO to do what other teams have failed to do with top picks in the draft is find a great qb in the draft to push our starter from the #2 spot when teams struggle to get a #1? half the leagues looking for a starter and struggle to find them with snap and field time yet we have to prove that from guy on the bench who we will never know if hes any good until he gets quality snaps ala Rush who is 5-1.. isn't that pressure from the backup?

 

[CouchCoach]

This calls for something the Cowboys do not have, strategy toward the future.

They're always addressing the problem of the moment and thinking in terms of this season.

When you think about it, management with total job security, it is really incompetent on their part. They can afford future strategy.

 

[DallasEast]

Cowboys QB draft history in Jethro Jone$ era

1989 Troy 1st rd
1989 Walsh 1st supplemental rd
2001 Carter 2nd rd
2007 Stanbach 4th rd( converted to secondary)
2009 McGee 4th rd
2016 Prescott 4th rd
2018 White 5th rd
2020 DiNucci 7th rd

Thanks for posting this. I create a thread a year or so ago listing Jerry Jones' drafting pattern at the position. I did so when the forum had a sudden huge surge of 'Jerry will draft a quarterback in the first round!!!' posts and threads than normal.

My thread illustrated how atypical it is for Jones to draft high round quarterbacks, especially when he already has an established franchise quarterback on the roster. Anything is possible but anyone believing Jones will invest premium high draft capital at the position are completely fooling only themselves, despite how they might feel about Dak Prescott's worth.

It would be necessary for Jones to morph into somebody he has never been before pulling that trigger. And narcissists are an even rarer breed for changing their ways.

 

[T-RO]

Attention Cowboys Front Office: History shows the best way to draft a QB is often.

The Cowboys should draft a QB at least every other year looking at every round. Good QBs are the absolute hardest to find which is why they are so overpaid. You never know when you will strike gold. Just thinking the good ones only happen in the first round is foolish. They happen in all rounds. Many of the greats were drafted in later rounds.

• Roger Staubach was drafted in the 10th round in 1964.
• HOFer Bart Starr of the packers was drafted in the 17th round.
• HOFER Brett Favre was drafted in the 2nd round.
• HOFer Joe Montana was taken in the 3rd round.
• Former NFL MVP Rich Gannon was drafted in round 4.
• HOFer Chiefs QB Len Dawson was drafted in the 5th round.
• The GOAT Tom Brady- 6th round.

All these greats either won SBs Or took teams to SBs.
Look at these great QBs drafted LATER in round 1:

• HOFer Dan Marino was drafted with the 27th pick.
• Future HOFer Aaron Rodgers was drafted 24th.
• Former ravens QB and SB MVP Joe Flacco was drafted 18th.
• Even Pat Mahomes was drafted 10th.

The Cowboys almost never draft a QB. History shows it’s a foolish practice.

Your list is dated and therefore misleading. Only one QB from the last ten drafts ...and Mahomes was top third of first round.

QBs are valued way higher in the draft than they used to be.

Also: Roger was drafted late as he was still locked in military service.