Hate of Dak on this board is very ESPN like!

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Again, I'm SO SORRY that reality slapped you in the mouth.

Top 10 QB according to NFL players, coaches, scouts and execs.

Period.

Go argue with your mama.
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So I'm guessing the Vikings should stick with Kirk cousins too huh lol, him and Dak are about the same range
 

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Insults and hyperbole in your first sentence = the rest of your post wont be read. If you take the time to write this you likely want it to be read. Think about better ways to get people to listen to you. Just my advice.
 

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So I'm guessing the Vikings should stick with Kirk cousins too huh lol, him and Dak are about the same range
Dak's generally ranked higher than Kirk, but I'll let the experts have their say on that this offseason.

Again, every single team wants a GREAT QB.

Saying "GET A BETTER QB THAN DAK!" isn't actual football analysis.

OBVIOUSLY drafting the next Mahomes would be terrific!

But what about drafting the next Zach Wilson? How cool would that be???

Maybe one day you'll learn about exactly how difficult it is to find a top-10 QB in this league. Maybe.

Go ask the Jets.
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People on this board need to stop whining about Dak Prescott, he isn't as bad as many believe and not going anywhere in the near future. He is our QB and we need to support him, not kill him over everything wrong with the franchise:

-I can go back into the summer posts, where nobody had high expectations for this offense. Many thought with the loss of Cooper, Gallup not going to be ready, this team was going to be lucky to win 8 games. They won 12 games again, with lesser talent, Tyron missing most of the season and Dak out 5 games.

-Dak missed 5 games due to breaking his thumb, when he returned, the offense averaged over 30 points a game, #1 in 3rd down conversion and one of the league leaders in red zone efficiency. Outside of the Washington game, the team just lost 2 OT games on the road, in which the defense blew 2nd half double digits leads. Did Dak play perfect games and protect the football, no, but his offense wasn't the only reason why they lost.

-Lamb finally played like a true #1 receiver down the stretch, but Noah Brown was our next best receiver, yes, Noah Brown the special teamer. If I would of told anybody that Noah Brown was going to be the #2 receiver at the start of the year, everyone would of said they have no chance. Gallup was a complete disaster this season post injury, Tolbert was a bust and Washington was even worse. They were forced to sign a retired 33 year old receiver that was sitting on his couch. Their receiving core was the 2nd worse within the playoff teams.

-Where was the team's strong running game? Don't even need to go into Zeke's production as we all know his time is up, but the run game totally disappeared when Steele went down with an injury. This was a major issue heading into this year's postseason, believe they averaged less then 3 yards against the 49ers in their loss. Both backs could do nothing on the ground. There is a reason why the OL coach, RB was just fired.

-Dak just faced the 49ers defense, which was the best in the entire league. No running game, he was asked to read a defense in which they had 7-8 in coverage with 1 legitimate receiver. On top of this, a scheme that Steve Young stated prior to the game was the most basic, easiest to defend. Now you same fans are changing the goal posts and says Moore is Dak's scapegoat for his poor play.

-People need to accept the fact, the 49ers were the better team, period.

-If you want to blame anybody, it should be more towards the front office. They put together a less talented group and expected better results. They are now forced to upgrade the talent and the staff had no choice but to change their scheme. No doubt Dak has to play better and protect the football, but he needs some support to be successful. Josh Allen scores 10 points at home and gets a pass, but Dak scores 12 on the road against the best defense and it's all his fault.
It could be is that DAK just isn’t the man. He could’ve had more weapons and he could’ve had a more solid OL. But he could’ve also read the defense better. You’re right that is with us for two years and I suspect for longer. That will turn out regrettable I fear. I wish him the best
 

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Dak's generally ranked higher than Kirk, but I'll let the experts have their say on that this offseason.

Again, every single team wants a GREAT QB.

Saying "GET A BETTER QB THAN DAK!" isn't actual football analysis.

Maybe one day you'll learn about exactly how difficult it is to find a top-10 QB in this league. Maybe.

Go ask the Jets.
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I always said Dak was in the 10-12 range, even as high as 9 sometimes, but those guys between that range are interchangeable and need a lot of help, our FO has shown they will not use fa to their advantage, so wouldn't it be worth it to risk using a 1st round pick on a QB?
 
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What about when he actually signed the contract? He was #2 paid player in the entire NFL, only behind Allen:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/sort-value/quarterback/start-2021/limit-100/

So are you saying now that he is not he is no longer elite? If that is the case we are in agreement! FINALLY !
huh? those numbers are rolling numbers. will always be rolling numbers. depends on who comes up for renewal next. at the time there were Elite QBs under contract, with short time remaining. there were rookies under contract.

so should we say, we have a ranking system of sorts and if you are below X and y, then you make less. what happens when they come up for contract renewal? and then the contract goes up. do you then adjust the contract.

its how NFL works. get used to it.

he was never elite. the salaries aren't handed out based on that. its based on Market value of a QB and the market. the fans often confuse the two. Market value, vs. elite/non-elite.
 

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No, you want Patrick Mahomes.

You don't want Zach Wilson. Or Blaine Gabbert. Or Johnny Manziel. Or Blake Bortles.

You want Patrick Mahomes.

WHY DON'T WE DRAFT THE NEXT MAHOMES!?!?
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I jsut sent back a burnt steak and you the chef came out crying telling me it could’ve easily been trash,

Ill take Kenny picket. The jags and Steelers had fun promising seasons. This cowboys team is about to give up on their guy. Lamb and Micah are only gonna be so patient
 

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I have an idea...let's use our first round pick and DRAFT Patrick Mahomes. The chiefs will never see it coming!

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Never have I ever seen the cowboys franchise speak so pathetically. This season started and y’all told me dak was top ten. Should I bump the the thread? Now the season played out and The argument now is josh Allen also threw some picks.


Guess what I’m ok if we draft someone and there’s growing pains. I’m ok with a bust. Im
Not ok with 30 year old getting worse unfun mediocrity. This team is boring.

Next years scapegoats ? Mike McCarthy ? Lamb? Tyler smith?
 

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You'll never get the next Mahomes if you sit on your hands, be satisfied with Dak, and don't even try.

Why can't you get that?

You're falling into that trap and can't even have the self awareness to see it.
I agree. lets draft one. but as I outlined, chances are you will fail. so will you sit here and continue to whine until you get one? is that the only way to the superbowl. Mahomes is once in a generation talent. you want that? lets wait another generation to find one. then again, there is Philly, SF, all with average QBs, who build teams that support those QBs, with the right system, and they just played in the NFCCG. they don't sit here and whine I want mahomes I want mahomes I want mahomes.

if finding a Mahomes is all you think that can fix our problems, then you are going to wait a long time and you will have a lot to whine about, but then again, that's probably what you are hoping for, else what else can you whine about
 

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I always said Dak was in the 10-12 range, even as high as 9 sometimes, but those guys between that range are interchangeable and need a lot of help, our FO has shown they use fa to their advantage, so wouldn't it be worth it to risk using a 1st round pick on a QB?
When there's like a 90% chance that QB won't become as good as Dak? Nah. Not worth it.

Later rounds? Sure, if there's someone whose potential we love.

1st round? Nope. We already have a good QB. I'd rather add better pieces around him and see what happens.
 

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Never have I ever seen the cowboys franchise speak so pathetically. This season started and y’all told me dak was top ten. Should I bump the the thread? Now the season played out and The argument now is josh Allen also threw some picks.


Guess what I’m ok if we draft someone and there’s growing pains. I’m ok with a bust. Im
Not ok with 30 year old getting worse unfun mediocrity. This team is boring.

Next years scapegoats ? Mike McCarthy ? Lamb? Tyler smith?
He is still top 10.

You ok?
 

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Another "Why did the Chiefs trade up for Mahomes when they had a QB that won games and got them to the playoffs" type of fans.

Wallow in that mediocrity Dak brings you.
that is the only example you have and nothing else. all the other teams failing just go right over your head. why didn't the chiefs trade up to get turbiskey? he was rated higher than Mahomes. and why did 11 other teams passed up on him

come on TMZ cowboy, please point us to the next mahomes you are so in love with.
 

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Never have I ever seen the cowboys franchise speak so pathetically. This season started and y’all told me dak was top ten. Should I bump the the thread? Now the season played out and The argument now is josh Allen also threw some picks.


Guess what I’m ok if we draft someone and there’s growing pains. I’m ok with a bust. Im
Not ok with 30 year old getting worse unfun mediocrity. This team is boring.

Next years scapegoats ? Mike McCarthy ? Lamb? Tyler smith?
I'm so sorry to tell you this....

But Dak will AGAIN be ranked top 10 by NFL players, coaches, scouts and execs this offseason. Brady, Watson and Murray will drop below Dak.

Again, I'm so, so sorry.
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Lol you really need to learn football, his oline is horrible plus they were missing 3 starters. If our oline doesn't give Dak 5 seconds y'all complain
Great quarterbacks make plays. They throw that back shoulder fade that burrow threw to Higgins. They do what it takes.

They don’t go out without swinging.

12 points and 3 interceptions the year after you missed managed the clock against the cowboys can’t same team? The year after you kicked your best wr off the team and stole a bunch of money? Yuck
 

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I've told you 100 times and I'm not going to tell you again.

Go back and find one of the other times you've asked me this and I've gave you detailed answers on it.
oh, this was the best non answer of all the non answers ever. so you don't have an answer. you just cry and want Mahomes lie QB.

come on dude. unblock your account so it can easily be pulled out. what are you afraid of?
 

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I'm so sorry to tell you this....

But Dak will AGAIN be ranked top 10 by NFL players, coaches, scouts and execs this offseason. Brady, Watson and Murray will drop below Dak.

Again, I'm so, so sorry.
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You seem awfully happy to yet again not make a championship game.

We just can’t beat Brock purdy and mommy garapolo. They’re too good
 

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When there's like a 90% chance that QB won't become as good as Dak? Nah. Not worth it.

Later rounds? Sure, if there's someone whose potential we love.

1st round? Nope. We already have a good QB. I'd rather add better pieces around him and see what happens.
But our FO won't add pieces, they only get help thru the draft. We can't just rely on that, if we do the same thing this FA as the last few seasons, do you really expect different results?
 

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I agree. lets draft one. but as I outlined, chances are you will fail. so will you sit here and continue to whine until you get one? is that the only way to the superbowl. Mahomes is once in a generation talent. you want that? lets wait another generation to find one. then again, there is Philly, SF, all with average QBs, who build teams that support those QBs, with the right system, and they just played in the NFCCG. they don't sit here and whine I want mahomes I want mahomes I want mahomes.

if finding a Mahomes is all you think that can fix our problems, then you are going to wait a long time and you will have a lot to whine about, but then again, that's probably what you are hoping for, else what else can you whine about
Okay.

Would you rather take your chance and maybe or maybe not fail?

Or know you're going to fail with Dak as most of us do?

I know which boat I'm in.

You guys are using Mahomes greatness as a reason to not even try and that's pretty weak. We don't need an All-Time great like Mahomes. We just need someone that isn't a bum like Dak. We were a QB away this year.
 
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