How Andy Reid Came to Be

[Miller]

Heard the Ticket discussing this earlier this morning and was really intrigued because 1) I hadn’t heard this before and 2) this is not the way this franchise operates at all. Before I get bashed about Eagles not winning SBs with him, they still hit 5 NFC Championship games with his warts and all and now he’s brought all that success to KC. No method is perfect but thinking outside the family confines helps. This is from an interview with former Eagles President Joe Banner. I don’t want to quote the whole thing so read it all. I’ll start how they picked him..

https://talkoffametwo.com/.amp/nfl/andy-reid-eagles-banner

Remember,” he said, “we (he and Eagles’ owner Jeff Lurie) were new to the league. So we weren’t limited and governed by all the conventional wisdom that had driven the thinking for so many years. So we actually tried to add a little science to our intuition to study all the head coaches that had been to at least two Super Bowls and defining them as true success leaders. And, to our surprise, we found nothing about football that was in common….

They passed. They ran. They were aggressive. They were passive. Whatever it was, we couldn’t find anything. We almost stumbled into the fact that when it came to the description of who they were as people there were tremendous similarities – about leadership, about attention to detail, the ability to evaluate coaches and manage people.”

The coaches included Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren and Bill Parcells, and the Eagles measured them by a list of eight criteria that they thought defined them.

In the end, the decision came down to Reid vs. Jim Haslett, with the Eagles taking the coach less traveled. The decision changed the face of the franchise, with the Eagles going to five conference championship games – including four straight – in eight years and their first Super Bowl since the 1980 season.

We were not afraid of somebody who hadn’t been a coordinator,” said Banner. “We were very focused on leadership. So they were going to have to prove to us (that) if they hadn’t been a coordinator they could be a great leader.

“There were eight teams at the time hiring a head coach. Green Bay, by the way, was one of them and didn’t interview Andy. And when we met him it was like: Either our research was really misguided, or we just stumbled on to the next great coach………

 

[CATCH17]

I remember petitioning for him when Philly fired him.

A lot on here didn’t want him and would’ve rather kept Garrett because Andy Reid was too pass happy..

 

[Reality]

I remember petitioning for him when Philly fired him.

A lot on here didn’t want him and would’ve rather kept Garrett because Andy Reid was too pass happy..

I liked Andy Reid a lot back then as well, but to be fair, there were some questions surrounding him when he left Philadelphia.

Even Chiefs fans and media were questioning him a few years ago ..

Enough should be enough when it comes to Andy Reid
https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/01/08/andy-reid-must-go-head-coach-chiefs-now/

 

[Coogiguy03]

One of the best play callers I've seen

 

[CATCH17]

I liked Andy Reid a lot back then as well, but to be fair, there were some questions surrounding him when he left Philadelphia.

Even Chiefs fans and media were questioning him a few years ago ..

Enough should be enough when it comes to Andy Reid
https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/01/08/andy-reid-must-go-head-coach-chiefs-now/

Andy Reid is brilliant and has always been brilliant.

People look at the result too much sometimes but watching his play designs and how he gets the most out of players has always been a thing of art.

I’ve watched that guy trot out so many no talent QBs over the years and he makes them look like legit NFL QBs.

 

[kuyyo_morro]

How different is Lurie hiring Andy Reid with no coorindator experience different from Jerry hiring Jason Garrett. We are looking at results and showing Luri made a great hire.

 

[Miller]

How different is Lurie hiring Andy Reid with no coorindator experience different from Jerry hiring Jason Garrett. We are looking at results and showing Luri made a great hire.

Because Reid had actual long term coaching experience

• BYU (1982)
  Graduate assistant
• San Francisco State (1983–1985)
  Offensive line coach
• Northern Arizona (1986)
  Offensive line coach
• UTEP (1987–1988)
  Offensive line coach
• Missouri (1989–1991)
  Offensive line coach
• Green Bay Packers (1992–1996)
  Assistant offensive line & tight ends coach
• Green Bay Packers (1997–1998)
  Quarterbacks coach & assistant head coach

Garrett had almost zero and only real connection to being considered was his family being close to the Jones family and him being a backup. He had one year as QB coach when brought on as OC.

Plus, reading the article, Lurie and Banner had criteria they went on regarding leadership, handling coaches etc.

 

[plasticman]

Last I heard, Reid's team is practicing for the Super Bowl.

........as in, this Super Bowl.

Any criticism of him at this moment is very poorly timed, to say the least.

 

[Sydla]

Lurie has hired 5 coaches.

Ray Rhodes who was not good.

Reid.

Kelly who went from genius to bum in a few years.

Pederson who won them their first SB.

Sirianni who has them in a SB in his 2nd year.

One thing is for sure, Lurie is way better at hiring coaches than Jerry is.

 

[Jipper]

When one walrus loves another walrus…tale as old as time

 

[KJJ]

Andy Reid has been successful when he’s had good QBs like most coaches. When he arrived in Philly he drafted Donovan McNabb. The beginning of the end for Reid in Philly was when McNabb declined and Michael Vick took over. His coaching career has reached new heights with Mahomes in KC.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Lurie has hired 5 coaches.

Ray Rhodes who was not good.

Reid.

Kelly who went from genius to bum in a few years.

Pederson who won them their first SB.

Sirianni who has them in a SB in his 2nd year.

One thing is for sure, Lurie is way better at hiring coaches than Jerry is.

And even Kelly had some success. It's easy to forget because it apparently ended so badly

 

[Proof]

Lurie has hired 5 coaches.

Ray Rhodes who was not good.

Reid.

Kelly who went from genius to bum in a few years.

Pederson who won them their first SB.

Sirianni who has them in a SB in his 2nd year.

One thing is for sure, Lurie is way better at hiring coaches than Jerry is.

jimmy > any of them, and switzer wasn't a slouch either.

 

[JBS]

Andy Reid has been successful when he’s had good QBs like most coaches. When he arrived in Philly he drafted Donovan McNabb. The beginning of the end for Reid in Philly was when McNabb declined and Michael Vick took over. His coaching career has reached new heights with Mahomes in KC.

Thanks. We all thought people won super bowls by themselves.

 

[StarOfGlory]

I can add to this. I have some good knowledge as to how Andy Reid got there and became successful. When I lived in Mt. Laurel, NJ (a few miles from NFL Films), my neighbor for seven years was Juan Castillo, Reid's offensive line coach. Being a former college player myself, we became good friends. Later on, another Mt. Laurel resident and former player, Jon Runyan would be elected twice to Congress (HR) from our district, so I became acquainted with him as well.

Reid was one of six on Lurie's list of prospective coaches--fifth in line as I recall. Reid won him over in the interview. When asked as to his offensive philosophy, Reid plopped a huge playbook on the table. When asked about what needed to be done first, Reid was very quick to say "Offensive line. You have no big nasties on the line." At the time, the only top talent on the line was huge LT Tra Thomas, who just finished his rookie year. Reid also was adamant about drafting a o-lineman every single draft. The second thing was to find the quarterback. Reid say he had someone in mind for the draft (Eagles had the #2 pick, they were horrible under Ray Rhodes that last year). He would get a smart vet to keep the seat warm for his new QB. Reid also noted that there was talent on defense (Douglas, Kearse, Dawkins) but a new defensive philosophy was needed to take advantage of that talent. Also, draft a d-lineman and corner every draft

So, when hired, what did Reid do?

QB: McNabb--let's not forget how good he was before injuries took its toll
QB Vet: Doug Pederson
First FA signing: Jon Runyon, big nasty at RT
Defensive Coordinator: Jim Johnson

The Eagle tradition of sucky WR's continued though (Todd Stinkston and Freddie Mitchell, lolol), so Reid got Terrell Owens. By that time, Reid also took a chance on a 3rd rounder from Villanova named Brian Westbrook. Let's not forget how close they came to beating Brady in the Super Bowl. Reid, a brand new HC, took a 3-13 team, starting in 1999, had them in the playoffs in two years (almost beating the Greatest Show on Turf) and almost beat Brady and Bellicheat by year five.

Reid's ideas are still with the Eagles to this day. Build the trenches and find the QB that can run your system. Reid's Chiefs doesn't have a lot of top end talent outside of Mahomes and Kelce, but the rest of their receiving corps are more than JAG's. Mahomes makes them better. The right QB is THAT important.

 

[Cowpolk]

Dad and mom is how Andy came to be

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Heard the Ticket discussing this earlier this morning and was really intrigued because 1) I hadn’t heard this before and 2) this is not the way this franchise operates at all. Before I get bashed about Eagles not winning SBs with him, they still hit 5 NFC Championship games with his warts and all and now he’s brought all that success to KC. No method is perfect but thinking outside the family confines helps. This is from an interview with former Eagles President Joe Banner. I don’t want to quote the whole thing so read it all. I’ll start how they picked him..

https://talkoffametwo.com/.amp/nfl/andy-reid-eagles-banner

Remember,” he said, “we (he and Eagles’ owner Jeff Lurie) were new to the league. So we weren’t limited and governed by all the conventional wisdom that had driven the thinking for so many years. So we actually tried to add a little science to our intuition to study all the head coaches that had been to at least two Super Bowls and defining them as true success leaders. And, to our surprise, we found nothing about football that was in common….

They passed. They ran. They were aggressive. They were passive. Whatever it was, we couldn’t find anything. We almost stumbled into the fact that when it came to the description of who they were as people there were tremendous similarities – about leadership, about attention to detail, the ability to evaluate coaches and manage people.”

The coaches included Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren and Bill Parcells, and the Eagles measured them by a list of eight criteria that they thought defined them.

In the end, the decision came down to Reid vs. Jim Haslett, with the Eagles taking the coach less traveled. The decision changed the face of the franchise, with the Eagles going to five conference championship games – including four straight – in eight years and their first Super Bowl since the 1980 season.

We were not afraid of somebody who hadn’t been a coordinator,” said Banner. “We were very focused on leadership. So they were going to have to prove to us (that) if they hadn’t been a coordinator they could be a great leader.

“There were eight teams at the time hiring a head coach. Green Bay, by the way, was one of them and didn’t interview Andy. And when we met him it was like: Either our research was really misguided, or we just stumbled on to the next great coach………

I am humbled and saddened at all of Coach Reid's personal tragedies involving his sons.
He is a great coach, not given to 2-year turnarounds but instead of the long slog and keeping key personnel signed.

 

[CWR]

I remember petitioning for him when Philly fired him.

A lot on here didn’t want him and would’ve rather kept Garrett because Andy Reid was too pass happy..

Naw, I was happy to get both him and Coughlin out of the NFC East. They were both tough to face.

 

[Proof]

I can add to this. I have some good knowledge as to how Andy Reid got there and became successful. When I lived in Mt. Laurel, NJ (a few miles from NFL Films), my neighbor for seven years was Juan Castillo, Reid's offensive line coach. Being a former college player myself, we became good friends. Later on, another Mt. Laurel resident and former player, Jon Runyan would be elected twice to Congress (HR) from our district, so I became acquainted with him as well.

Reid was one of six on Lurie's list of prospective coaches--fifth in line as I recall. Reid won him over in the interview. When asked as to his offensive philosophy, Reid plopped a huge playbook on the table. When asked about what needed to be done first, Reid was very quick to say "Offensive line. You have no big nasties on the line." At the time, the only top talent on the line was huge LT Tra Thomas, who just finished his rookie year. Reid also was adamant about drafting a o-lineman every single draft. The second thing was to find the quarterback. Reid say he had someone in mind for the draft (Eagles had the #2 pick, they were horrible under Ray Rhodes that last year). He would get a smart vet to keep the seat warm for his new QB. Reid also noted that there was talent on defense (Douglas, Kearse, Dawkins) but a new defensive philosophy was needed to take advantage of that talent. Also, draft a d-lineman and corner every draft

So, when hired, what did Reid do?

QB: McNabb--let's not forget how good he was before injuries took its toll
QB Vet: Doug Pederson
First FA signing: Jon Runyon, big nasty at RT
Defensive Coordinator: Jim Johnson

The Eagle tradition of sucky WR's continued though (Todd Stinkston and Freddie Mitchell, lolol), so Reid got Terrell Owens. By that time, Reid also took a chance on a 3rd rounder from Villanova named Brian Westbrook. Let's not forget how close they came to beating Brady in the Super Bowl. Reid, a brand new HC, took a 3-13 team, starting in 1999, had them in the playoffs in two years (almost beating the Greatest Show on Turf) and almost beat Brady and Bellicheat by year five.

Reid's ideas are still with the Eagles to this day. Build the trenches and find the QB that can run your system. Reid's Chiefs doesn't have a lot of top end talent outside of Mahomes and Kelce, but the rest of their receiving corps are more than JAG's. Mahomes makes them better. The right QB is THAT important.

Thats pretty cool man. Thanks for sharing.

 

[KJJ]

Thanks. We all thought people won super bowls by themselves.

Most head coaches are carried by their QBs. If they don’t have a real good one eventually they’ll get fired. Bill Parcells and Joe Gibbs are the only two Hall of Fame coaches I can think of that had great careers without a Hall of Fame QB.