CFZ Team weaknesses as of mid April

[morasp]

Isn't he saying the same thing your are (he likes the Cooks addition)?

Yes he is. He's just saying there are no certainties and sometimes unexpected things happen. If Cooks going into his tenth season blows out his knee in training camp is he any better than Washington? It's not likely but stranger things have happened. Assuming no drop off in production he compared Cooks numbers over the past three seasons with Amari Coopers and they were comparable so he was a good addition.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Can we? 26 out of 32 teams could not.

Sorry what?

 

[Captain-Crash]

quarterback

 

[kskboys]

Sorry what?

Find a starting RB in later rounds. 26 of 32 teams found their starting RB in rounds 1-3. 20 of 32 came from rounds 1 and 2.

This idea that RBs can easily be found in rounds 4-7 is quite incorrect. Most RBs taken there bust.

 

[Verdict]

Find a starting RB in later rounds. 26 of 32 teams found their starting RB in rounds 1-3. 20 of 32 came from rounds 1 and 2.

This idea that RBs can easily be found in rounds 4-7 is quite incorrect. Most RBs taken there bust.

Interesting post. Thank you for posting that.

I am not in the camp of believing “you can find them at the five and dime store. Usually there is a reason a player is taken high in the draft.

 

[Jarntt]

We got playmakers stepping up and in from recent drafts, why all the doom and gloom.
Deep teams draft perennially well.

Out of curiosity, who from “recent drafts” do you see stepping up and in as a ”playmaker”? A playmaker isn’t just a guy who plays it’s a guy who makes explosive or big time, important plays for the team. IMO, we are pretty good in the playmaker category with CeeDee and the other two starting WRs and of course a healthy Pollard so I wasn’t sure why so many people were referencing it as a need. Pollard if healthy is the definition of what I’d call a playmaker. But, again, I have no idea who you are referring to from recent drafts that may step up. Certainly you can’t mean Tolbert or Fehoko at this point as neither will likley play more than a part time role amd maybe not even and while I like both a lot and see potential, I wouldn‘t put our young TEs in the playmaker category.

 

[Typhus]

Out of curiosity, who from “recent drafts” do you see stepping up and in as a ”playmaker”? A playmaker isn’t just a guy who plays it’s a guy who makes explosive or big time, important plays for the team. IMO, we are pretty good in the playmaker category with CeeDee and the other two starting WRs and of course a healthy Pollard so I wasn’t sure why so many people were referencing it as a need. Pollard if healthy is the definition of what I’d call a playmaker. But, again, I have no idea who you are referring to from recent drafts that may step up. Certainly you can’t mean Tolbert or Fehoko at this point as neither will likley play more than a part time role amd maybe not even and while I like both a lot and see potential, I wouldn‘t put our young TEs in the playmaker category.

I was referencing entire roster, you assumed I was referring to offense only.

This team has a lot of quality depth that is just beginning to have the opportunities and you cant be a "playmaker" unless you get the snaps.

Damone Clark
Daron Bland
Marquise Bell
Jabril Cox
Mukuamu
Sam Williams
Can go even further with D, nice depth with upside, but do not want to bore you.

Offense wasn't what I was considering when responding to thread title, but there is upside youth in the ranks there as well.

Tolbert
Ferguson
Davis
Fehoko
Turpin
Waletzko

 

[kskboys]

Interesting post. Thank you for posting that.

I am not in the camp of believing “you can find them at the five and dime store. Usually there is a reason a player is taken high in the draft.

Aside from K/P, I don't believe there is a position you shouldn't take top 10 if the talent warrants it. Talent trumps all, and a game changer can be at any position. Our own Zach Martin is a testament to that. I normally wouldn't agree w/ taking an OG top 10-20, but Zach is an example of a clear outlier.

 

[CCBoy]

Aside from K/P, I don't believe there is a position you shouldn't take top 10 if the talent warrants it. Talent trumps all, and a game changer can be at any position. Our own Zach Martin is a testament to that. I normally wouldn't agree w/ taking an OG top 10-20, but Zach is an example of a clear outlier.

Just can't argue with the truth...

 

[CCBoy]

Bottom line: entering the 2023 season with only two dependable tight ends, and both of whom are in only their second season, isn't a tantalizing thought.
Jones and the Cowboys front office is keenly aware of their situation at the position.

"Certainly, the draft is heavy [at tight end]," he explained. "There are quite a few players in those top 3-4 rounds that we think can be like Ferguson or Hendershot, and come in and really help us."

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/cowboys-on-bijan-robinson-you-never-know

 

[SuperBowlz]

No. Absolutely wrong. There is no system to beat. Every penny needs to hit the cap. All he does is kick it down the road. I'm not sure how to explain it to you or people who always say this and just don't seem to understand. Here is one way. Look at the Eagles base salary for every single player. There is only one player on the team making over $2.7M (we have 11) and none making over $4.2M (we have 7). That means he has restructured every player possible for almost every possible $. Now look at any other NFL team

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/cap/


Now look at the dead money for players that left after 2022 or whose contracts ended and were re-signed and the dead money. Not players who were cut like Zeke or Collins, who always have dead money, but players whose contracts just ended:
Cox : $15.3M
Hargrave: $12M
Brooks: $9.8M
Seumalo: $7.5M
Bradberry (was only there one year but they restructured any way!): $5M

Now look at all of the Eagles players whose contracts are up after this year (some are the same guys but this is additional dead money on top of this year's) and look at the dead money after they are no longer even on the team or are re-signed on a new contract.
Kelce: $24.2M
Cox: $14.3M
Graham: $13.2M
Barnett: $7.2M

And I'm not even including all of the other big contracts in which they already have guys with huge dead money hits at contract end. Every team backloads contracts to help the current year's cap. No team is even close to Philly in this respect. That is why they are able to pay so many guys but the day of reckoning will come because like I said that money doesn't go away. All you can do is move it back.

But they keep signing players, extending players, getting elite FA's year after year after year. I remember your name from a different site and as we both hate the Eagles I can sit back and see they never have cap issues that prevent them from being competitive. I mean you've been saying... "Just watch they'll be in cap hell but when's it gonna happen. I've been waiting for years and now they just gave their QB 51 million a year. Really sounds like they're strapped doesn't it

 

[SuperBowlz]

No. Absolutely wrong. There is no system to beat. Every penny needs to hit the cap. All he does is kick it down the road. I'm not sure how to explain it to you or people who always say this and just don't seem to understand. Here is one way. Look at the Eagles base salary for every single player. There is only one player on the team making over $2.7M (we have 11) and none making over $4.2M (we have 7). That means he has restructured every player possible for almost every possible $. Now look at any other NFL team

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/cap/


Now look at the dead money for players that left after 2022 or whose contracts ended and were re-signed and the dead money. Not players who were cut like Zeke or Collins, who always have dead money, but players whose contracts just ended:
Cox : $15.3M
Hargrave: $12M
Brooks: $9.8M
Seumalo: $7.5M
Bradberry (was only there one year but they restructured any way!): $5M

Now look at all of the Eagles players whose contracts are up after this year (some are the same guys but this is additional dead money on top of this year's) and look at the dead money after they are no longer even on the team or are re-signed on a new contract.
Kelce: $24.2M
Cox: $14.3M
Graham: $13.2M
Barnett: $7.2M

And I'm not even including all of the other big contracts in which they already have guys with huge dead money hits at contract end. Every team backloads contracts to help the current year's cap. No team is even close to Philly in this respect. That is why they are able to pay so many guys but the day of reckoning will come because like I said that money doesn't go away. All you can do is move it back.

Their day of reckoning will come... you've been saying this for a decade now.

 

[Jarntt]

But they keep signing players, extending players, getting elite FA's year after year after year. I remember your name from a different site and as we both hate the Eagles I can sit back and see they never have cap issues that prevent them from being competitive. I mean you've been saying... "Just watch they'll be in cap hell but when's it gonna happen. I've been waiting for years and now they just gave their QB 51 million a year. Really sounds like they're strapped doesn't it

They traded their last QB which helped the cap problem and replaced him with a guy on a rookie deal correct? They also just had to let their best DL go to SF in free agency because they couldn't afford him and also couldn't afford CJCG who many of their fans saw as a guy who should have been their #1 target to re-sign. Maybe you just aren't watching? it's math and it's unavoidable. I can't help you understand it that if you don't want to. There is no magic. One can only kick the can down the road.

 

[morasp]

Find a starting RB in later rounds. 26 of 32 teams found their starting RB in rounds 1-3. 20 of 32 came from rounds 1 and 2.

This idea that RBs can easily be found in rounds 4-7 is quite incorrect. Most RBs taken there bust.

good research.

 

[Verdict]

But they keep signing players, extending players, getting elite FA's year after year after year. I remember your name from a different site and as we both hate the Eagles I can sit back and see they never have cap issues that prevent them from being competitive. I mean you've been saying... "Just watch they'll be in cap hell but when's it gonna happen. I've been waiting for years and now they just gave their QB 51 million a year. Really sounds like they're strapped doesn't it

The fact that the Eagles had a rookie wage scale contract at QB is medicine that cures a lot of cap ills in other places. Now that advantage will start to decline with each passing year.

 

[Verdict]

Bottom line: entering the 2023 season with only two dependable tight ends, and both of whom are in only their second season, isn't a tantalizing thought.
Jones and the Cowboys front office is keenly aware of their situation at the position.

"Certainly, the draft is heavy [at tight end]," he explained. "There are quite a few players in those top 3-4 rounds that we think can be like Ferguson or Hendershot, and come in and really help us."

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/cowboys-on-bijan-robinson-you-never-know

I am perfectly happy with that scenario and adding a late round pick, or UDFA to this group. You have to save some cap room somewhere if you plan on paying Parsons (that one is going to leave a mark), Cee Dee and Diggs. Personally, I would not pay Diggs.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Find a starting RB in later rounds. 26 of 32 teams found their starting RB in rounds 1-3. 20 of 32 came from rounds 1 and 2.

This idea that RBs can easily be found in rounds 4-7 is quite incorrect. Most RBs taken there bust.

I would have to fact check that. I can think of two off the top of my head just from last year's draft that came from rounds 5 and 7. Tyler Allgeier and Isaiah Pacheco.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Find a starting RB in later rounds. 26 of 32 teams found their starting RB in rounds 1-3. 20 of 32 came from rounds 1 and 2.

This idea that RBs can easily be found in rounds 4-7 is quite incorrect. Most RBs taken there bust.

A Eckler
T Allgeier
I Pacheco
T Pollard
A Jones
R Stevenson
D Pierce
R Mostert
J Williams
D Montgomery
A Kamara
J Connor
B Rob
Gibson
D Singletary

..all these guys gotten in round 3 or later. Just saying you don't have to spring for one in the first couple rounds anymore. Rather use those picks on building up the trenches.

 

[IceStar-D7]

Defensive tackle-linebacker on defense. Offense? looks pretty good. Maybe a WR and tight end. I'd get another running back also.

 

[SuperBowlz]

They traded their last QB which helped the cap problem and replaced him with a guy on a rookie deal correct? They also just had to let their best DL go to SF in free agency because they couldn't afford him and also couldn't afford CJCG who many of their fans saw as a guy who should have been their #1 target to re-sign. Maybe you just aren't watching? it's math and it's unavoidable. I can't help you understand it that if you don't want to. There is no magic. One can only kick the can down the road.

But you've been saying this for 10 years. Letting an excellent DT go but he's in his 30's and they offered CJCG more than the Lions and withdrew their offer. Obviously you can't spend like drunken sailors but you've been saying for 10 years "Just watch, they are gonna be in trouble".
My point isn't jumping on you. It's some people think like you and they are 100% wrong and I wish we could be more like the Eagles. They also are one of the top 10 teams under the cap right this minute.
And sorry if I'm jumping down your throat but I'm frustrated watching us do nothing while the Eagles are major players in FA every single year