SI, Andrew Brandt: Elite QBs should not take less money to help their team

[TheMarathonContinues]

He was good in a rotation both before and after.

Honestly, I simply cannot comprehend our inability to understand the NT position. We tried to put Spears there also at one point.

I don't even remember Spears playing there lol.

Never could understand it especially with the whole Jay Ratliff dilemma. He was great but undersized for that role.

 

[CATCH17]

Of course the QB shouldn’t take less.

This is on the teams doing these idiotic deals.

 

[kskboys]

I don’t know where this myth cams from they took less lol.

25 mil from TB screams that it's not a myth.

 

[kskboys]

I don't even remember Spears playing there lol.

Never could understood it especially with the whole Jay Ratliff dilemma. He was great but undersized for that role.

We were weak against the run w/ Rats. He would've been an all pro 3 tech. Playing him out of position never made sense. His 2-6 sacks did not make up for the weakness in the middle. Remember BALT?

 

[kskboys]

When you are playing catch up to the NBA and MLB, it would be hard for me to take less. NFL is not for National Football League it is Not For Long. Having seen the league close up with my brother playing for 7 years, it would be a hard no, not taking less.

Depends. When "less" means 20 mil/season instead of 18 and the 18 comes w/ huge super bowl potential, it's just not that simple.

 

[BigStar]

Brady took less because Kraft ensured he made money on the backend at the NE facility (one block away). No way he does this wo this wink to avoid the cap.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-patriots-pay-a-brady-owned-company-run-by-suspect-partner/

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

25 mil from TB screams that it's not a myth.

He was 44 years old though lol. I'm speaking on the prime of his career. Maybe he did it in New England but I don't recall him ever taking "pay cuts".

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Brady took less because Kraft ensured he made money on the backend at the NE facility. No way he does this wo this wink to avoid the cap.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-patriots-pay-a-brady-owned-company-run-by-suspect-partner/

How in the hell does that not violate the salary cap? They really let them do whatever they want lol.

 

[BigStar]

How in the hell does that not violate the salary cap? They really let them do whatever they want lol.

Yeah really...they swept this right under the rug lol.

 

[gtb1943]

Personally, I think talking about QBs as regards salary is kind of ridiculous. Any QB that gets a second contract is pretty much set for life financially.
A third? Fat City no matter what. EVEN CARER BACKUPS make enough money to live very well for the rest of their lives.

Trying to talk about worth and so on is just plain DUMB.

and in the end what is the difference between $50 Million and $40 Million?

What matters is the Cap Hit. A smart QB knows that. You will still get your money no matter what but if you really want a shot at a ring you make your contract as flexible as possible to allow the team to work the cap to build a team around you. A smart QB understands that. From all I have heard Drew Brees was very different from Brady as regards this. Maybe I am wrong but if so that might explain why Tom Brady retires with 6 rings and Drew Brees retired with 1 ring. Part of it anyway.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah really...they swept this right under the rug lol.

I never heard that in my life that is CRAZY lol.

 

[BigStar]

I never heard that in my life that is CRAZY lol.

I remember it from the time it occurred but have heard basically nothing about it since.

 

[MyFairLady]

His argument is so dumb. Pay them crazy money and kick the can down the road. That is literally our strategy and our future is looking worse every day.

 

[kevm3]

Brady's wife already had a ton of money and I'm sure Brady and Kraft had some sweetheart under the table deals. Also, the Patriots FO actually DID something with the money.

What did we do when we had Dak on the 4th round contract? That's right. Nothing. Just signed a bunch of guys that never made the team. You don't take paycuts unless the team is actually in win mode vs bargain bin budget mode.

 

[Cowboys5217]

You guy keep saying Brady took less...he earned 525 million during his career...I Don't know where this myth came from he took less.....

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...s-with-patriots-my-wife-makes-a-lot-of-money/

 

[Big_D]

So, you'd rather make 500 mil and not win a super bowl than make 450 mil and win 3 super bowls?

like me cutting back on 50 million guarantees anything. Nevermind 3 championships. Family comes first. Period. If I play for 6 seasons then retire you think it’s wise to leave 50 million on the table? This is the state of the league and thinking these players are going to give a discount for the sake of “hopefully” winning is far fetched. It’s up to the team to divvy up the cap space, not the player.

 

[kevm3]

How about we hire a real GM first before we start telling players to take paycuts? How about that GM propose what he would actually do with the money to help win a Superbowl before we start trying to limit player's compensation? Any player that takes a paycut, especially after a team has franchised them and told them to 'prove it' and they did, is not very smart.

If the team didn't completely flounder once Dak got injured, and after he came back from the injury and took the team to a top offense, do you think the team would have tried to keep him around or replace him? All of this one way loyalty stuff is laughable. Players need to make sacrifices for the team, but the team is free to move on from the players at any time... doesn't work like that.

Before we start asking players to take pay cuts we need to operate how winning NFL franchises operate and that's hiring a GM and let the GM propose a plan that actually shows where the 'freed up money' will be allocated.

No way would I take a paycut only for the team to bring on 8 guys who never even make the roster and they just pocket the rest.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

How about we hire a real GM first before we start telling players to take paycuts? How about that GM propose what he would actually do with the money to help win a Superbowl before we start trying to limit player's compensation? Any player that takes a paycut, especially after a team has franchised them and told them to 'prove it' and they did, is not very smart.

If the team didn't completely flounder once Dak got injured, and after he came back from the injury and took the team to a top offense, do you think the team would have tried to keep him around or replace him? All of this one way loyalty stuff is laughable. Players need to make sacrifices for the team, but the team is free to move on from the players at any time... doesn't work like that.

Before we start asking players to take pay cuts we need to operate how winning NFL franchises operate and that's hiring a GM and let the GM propose a plan that actually shows where the 'freed up money' will be allocated.

No way would I take a paycut only for the team to bring on 8 guys who never even make the roster and they just pocket the rest.

Exactly. This team has proven they don't want to be players in free agency. They want "comp picks". So what am I taking pay cuts for? Couldn't be me. Give me what I'm worth.

 

[MyFairLady]

Nobody should expect Dak to willingly take less money to have a better team. That would obviously be crazy. The trade off however is that he is not the hero of the story. He is the overpaid hack that holds everyone else back.

 

[John813]

No player should take less than what they are worth on the market.

Teams can play with cap numbers for years and still get under the ceiling even if they start 50mil in the red.
An AAV of 50 mil can be reduced to ~40-50% of that number for years.