SI, Andrew Brandt: Elite QBs should not take less money to help their team

[Setackin]

Interesting read since we have Dak's extension around the corner



https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/17/nfl-business-football-explaining-salary-cap

Separating Fact From Fiction Over How the NFL Salary Cap Works​

Andrew Brandt puts on his professor hat to clear up some myths about cash vs. cap, stars taking less money to help the team and more.

• ANDREW BRANDT
• 10 HOURS AGO

Myth No. 2: Elite players should take less to “help the team win”

No.

Less cap? Sure. Less cash? No.

If top players, especially quarterbacks, want to facilitate the signing of other important players on the team—we can debate whether that is their role, but even if we allow for it—there is a way they can easily do that, and hundreds of players have. They can simply do a cap restructure of their contracts: converting their large salaries into signing bonuses, thereby pushing out cap charges into the future years through proration. These are cap restructures done by every team in the NFL. The player receives the exact same money he was scheduled to receive, sometimes even with better cash flow and an earlier payment schedule.

How does this apply to Dak? he’s not elite he’s above average. Tom Brady proved this point wrong for 25+ yrs, so either way it’s a bad opinion.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Here's what I think some fans are getting confused ( per Brandt ). A QB-friendly deal doesn't mean less money. Just their contract is structured with lots of flexibility. For example, if you recall Mahomes QB friendly contract was considered the largest ever by an NFL player. Even Mahomes said he wanted to make sure his other teammates were paid but at the time he was still the highest-paid QB. Of course, his contract has now dropped down a few slots but there's talk of restructuring it to put him back in the top 3, if not 1st.

 

[plasticman]

The writer is taking a very shortsighted perspective.

A player can make more money for the rest of his life if, by taking less, the team can sign an additional player that helps propel the team to a championship.

Championship players are more marketable when it comes to representing products. They will typically make more money in their post career endeavors. On average, a small sacrifice in their contract could be an investment with greater financial opportunities in the future.

Corporations like to align themselves with winners.

As previously noted, a smaller contract does not put more money in the pocket of the owner. Rather it puts more money in a teammate's pocket who, otherwise may have left the team.

If you were a quarterback in the NFL. would you rather have a 25 million dollar contract and Cee Dee Lamb or would you rather have a 30 million dollar contract but no CeeDee Lamb?

 

[Hawkeye0202]

How does this apply to Dak? he’s not elite he’s above average. Tom Brady proved this point wrong for 25+ yrs, so either way it’s a bad opinion.

You guys need to stop using Brady........he was an exception to the rule, everyone knows that. He and Belichick will probably go down as one of the greatest, if not the greatest, QB and coach combinations ever. As we all know, money was never an issue with Brady coz of his former wife. In fact, I'm not sure we can find/name more than two other QBs over the last 50 years who signed career contracts for less than their full value. Wonder why ...........

 

[Teague31]

Wrong. Totally and 100% wrong. Tom Brady won 7 rings in part due to him never being the highest paid QB.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Championship players are more marketable when it comes to representing products. They will typically make more money in their post career endeavors. On average, a small sacrifice in their contract could be an investment with greater financial opportunities in the future.

Maybe so but this assumes ALL players will play for championships. I'm sure that's the goal of every player but until it happens.......in fact most QBs sign 2nd contracts w/o a championship under their belt.

 

[Cowboys4lifeGR]

Interesting read since we have Dak's extension around the corner



https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/17/nfl-business-football-explaining-salary-cap

Separating Fact From Fiction Over How the NFL Salary Cap Works​

Andrew Brandt puts on his professor hat to clear up some myths about cash vs. cap, stars taking less money to help the team and more.

• ANDREW BRANDT
• 10 HOURS AGO

Myth No. 2: Elite players should take less to “help the team win”

No.

Less cap? Sure. Less cash? No.

If top players, especially quarterbacks, want to facilitate the signing of other important players on the team—we can debate whether that is their role, but even if we allow for it—there is a way they can easily do that, and hundreds of players have. They can simply do a cap restructure of their contracts: converting their large salaries into signing bonuses, thereby pushing out cap charges into the future years through proration. These are cap restructures done by every team in the NFL. The player receives the exact same money he was scheduled to receive, sometimes even with better cash flow and an earlier payment schedule.

Great breakdown. Thank you and greets from beautiful sunny Greece.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Thank you for keeping my constant Nolan Carroll references alive.

You know what if he and Cedric Thornton weren’t ex Eagles I probably wouldn’t bring them up but they were so bad and we were cheap.

 

[Redline360]

Brady & Mahomes(in the long run) the perfect example. Other QBs have taken team friendly deals the second time around to stay competitive. This goes for other sports as well granted it's a select few in the overall picture.

"Its a short and dangerous career take all the money you can". Insert spondgebob dummy meme. 1) Your already making incredibly stupid money that sets up generations of your family to come. 2) corporations and etc align themselves with champions and deals / endorcment money will out way the few millions you going to get.

I'm like Brady and mahomes. I play for the end game. Show me the rings.

 

[kskboys]

I agree. I wouldn't. A playing career is short.

From a team standpoint, you have to make the tough decisions, from the players standpoint, you have to get what you can while you can.

So, you'd rather make 500 mil and not win a super bowl than make 450 mil and win 3 super bowls?

 

[kevm3]

Nobody should take less than their worth. Why would Dak take less when the FO would only pocket the savings? They haven't gone all in in over a decade.

 

[kskboys]

Interesting read since we have Dak's extension around the corner



https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/17/nfl-business-football-explaining-salary-cap

Separating Fact From Fiction Over How the NFL Salary Cap Works​

Andrew Brandt puts on his professor hat to clear up some myths about cash vs. cap, stars taking less money to help the team and more.

• ANDREW BRANDT
• 10 HOURS AGO

Myth No. 2: Elite players should take less to “help the team win”

No.

Less cap? Sure. Less cash? No.

If top players, especially quarterbacks, want to facilitate the signing of other important players on the team—we can debate whether that is their role, but even if we allow for it—there is a way they can easily do that, and hundreds of players have. They can simply do a cap restructure of their contracts: converting their large salaries into signing bonuses, thereby pushing out cap charges into the future years through proration. These are cap restructures done by every team in the NFL. The player receives the exact same money he was scheduled to receive, sometimes even with better cash flow and an earlier payment schedule.

This guy is a complete and utter moron. It's like, he has to twist and turn to find excuses for extreme greed.

 

[kskboys]

Nobody should take less than their worth. Why would Dak t

Sure. Now define worth.

 

[kskboys]

You know what if he and Cedric Thornton weren’t ex Eagles I probably wouldn’t bring them up but they were so bad and we were cheap.

Cedtric Thornton is a quality rotational 3 tech that we played out of position. Just incredibly stupid on our part.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You're crazy if you truly believe you can field a playoff talented team and keep it intact if you're willing to pay your QB up to 25% of your team's salary cap. There is no way you will be able to maintain a playoff capable team, much less be talented enough to reach a championship game, if you agree to pay that much to any QB.

You're crazy if you think paying players the caliber of Zeke, Collins and Jaylin Smith 25% of your cap will win you any games in the playoffs lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Cedtric Thornton is a quality rotational 3 tech that we played out of position. Just incredibly stupid on our part.

Aye I can't say what he was or could've been I'll take your word for it. He was useless here. Never thought he was more than a backup guy for the Eagles. It just represents the Nate Livings, Nolan Carol, Mackenzie Bernadeau signings that I hate....

 

[MyFairLady]

You guy keep saying Brady took less...he earned 525 million during his career...I Don't know where this myth came from he took less.....

Dude played for something crazy like 20 seasons and made the super bowl something crazy like 10 times. Compared to the other QBs in the league, his peers if you can even call them that, he was grossly underpaid.

 

[kskboys]

Aye I can't say what he was or could've been I'll take your word for it. He was useless here. Never thought he was more than a backup guy for the Eagles. It just represents the Nate Livings, Nolan Carol, Mackenzie Bernadeau signings that I hate....

He was good in a rotation both before and after.

Honestly, I simply cannot comprehend our inability to understand the NT position. We tried to put Spears there also at one point.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dude played for something crazy like 20 seasons and made the super bowl something crazy like 10 times. Compared to the other QBs in the league, his peers if you can even call them that, he was grossly underpaid.

Forbes estimates that Brady got paid roughly $525 million over his 23 NFL seasons, $333 million from playing contracts, according to Spotrac, and more than $200 million from his endeavors off the field.

In comparison, Drew Brees who played 19 seasons made 250 million.

I'm not entirely sure where the myth came from he took less I think it came from that one year he signed an extension and it took his cap hit down. Not sure.

 

[kskboys]

You a fool if you think they took less. They got all they're cash.

Brady played for 25 mil at TB. Who's the fool?