Wonder why QBs are making all the money

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btw, top 15 paid QBs in the league make $30M and above AAV. with Burrows, Herbert, Lawrence coming up. the next two, Grapolo and Geno make $25M.

so we will potentially have 20 QBs that are making 25M and above in AAV and more than half the starting QBs in the league making 30M AAV and above.
 

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it is a challenge, but its also that the past 10 superbowls mostly been won by a generational QB like Mahomes and the Goat. those don't fall off the tree. that's why they are generational and the Goat.
the only exceptions are Philadelphia who won it with a back up (beating the goat) and a definitely over the hill Manning and Stafford, who at some point may have been elite, but he was just a good QB when Rams won it. But away from these two QBs who tend to dominate, there was a mixed bag of how you win a superbowl, where Eli won it, Russell won it, etc. yes, at those times they played at a very high level.

one common factor in most of the teams is a great to elite defense for the year they won it.

with that said, about a 1/3 of the superbowl QBs are good QBs, not generational or Elite, ala Hurts, Grapolo, Goff, Foles, Newton, Ryan, old manning.

still they played at a high level the year they made it to the superbowl, so to your point high Level QB play is needed. and I agree, you can't go cheap, unless you built a fantastic team around them and have an elite type defense.
It doesn’t take a generational QB to win a Super Bowl but your QB has to be playing at a very high level. Hurts isn’t a great QB at least as of this moment, but he was playing at an MVP level last season and was the main reason Philly reached the Super Bowl. Ryan and Cam Newton were league MVPs the year they reached the Super Bowl. Although Nick Foles is an average QB, he played outstanding in the playoffs and was named Super Bowl MVP.
 

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A lot of it is they get an agent. And the agent is trusted to handle it. They don’t care about the team or anyone but getting them paid so they can get there cut.
 

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It doesn’t take a generational QB to win a Super Bowl but your QB has to be playing at a very high level. Hurts isn’t a great QB at least as of this moment, but he was playing at an MVP level last season and was the main reason Philly reached the Super Bowl. Ryan and Cam Newton were league MVPs the year they reached the Super Bowl. Although Nick Foles is an average QB, he played outstanding in the playoffs and was named Super Bowl MVP.
your QB has to play well for one season. ala Eli or Foles. it remains to be seen if Hurts can duplicate his success from last year. he certainly had a lot of support and surronded by a lot of talent.
 

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your QB has to play well for one season. ala Eli or Foles. it remains to be seen if Hurts can duplicate his success from last year. he certainly had a lot of support and surronded by a lot of talent.
The arrows are pointing up with him. He’s been improving every season. We’ll see how it goes for him this year.
 

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your QB has to play well for one season. ala Eli or Foles. it remains to be seen if Hurts can duplicate his success from last year. he certainly had a lot of support and surronded by a lot of talent.
And a lot of running the ball himself. He will be figured out and will likely get injured if he continues. All the running qbs do.
 

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Trying to look at this from a different perspective, but could the NFL be coaching up these young QBs on promoting their brand so they can increase their earning potential outside of football and make them less reliant upon cashing in on those 2nd contracts?

Granted this probably has way more to do with the idea that the more QBs can promote themselves they are by default promoting the league as well, but does the NFL have any interest/benefit in a long term goal of lowering QB contracts? Would the NFLPA be OK with QBs taking a lower % of the cap in exchange for help from the league to find them endorsement deals and provide these guys brand/business coaching? It would be an easy way to spread some money around to the rest of the locker room without expanding the cap numbers or making a QB exception rule to the cap which I'm sure both optons owners would be against.
 

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Just the way the NFL wants it ............so stop blaming these kids. Whether or not they deserve isn't the issue ( I agree they don't ) but it's their calling and honestly, there is not a single fan/poster who would do it differently in their shoes.



You are dead wrong. I would do it like Brady did so I could win more championships. Money is meaningless once you reach a level of super wealthy.
 

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Trying to look at this from a different perspective, but could the NFL be coaching up these young QBs on promoting their brand so they can increase their earning potential outside of football and make them less reliant upon cashing in on those 2nd contracts?

Granted this probably has way more to do with the idea that the more QBs can promote themselves they are by default promoting the league as well, but does the NFL have any interest/benefit in a long term goal of lowering QB contracts? Would the NFLPA be OK with QBs taking a lower % of the cap in exchange for help from the league to find them endorsement deals and provide these guys brand/business coaching? It would be an easy way to spread some money around to the rest of the locker room without expanding the cap numbers or making a QB exception rule to the cap which I'm sure both optons owners would be against.
interesting point, would this work for all super stars also?
 

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You are dead wrong. I would do it like Brady did so I could win more championships. Money is meaningless once you reach a level of super wealthy.
if you poll the richest people in the world i think you would find their responses defy this.
 

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They touch the ball on every play, take a beating on a regular basis, have to know the full offensive playbook and everyone's responsibilities and they're the field general. The offensive leader.
 

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They touch the ball on every play, take a beating on a regular basis, have to know the full offensive playbook and everyone's responsibilities and they're the field general. The offensive leader.
the ones that get paid are the Face of a brand that is part of a billion dollar marketing network... this is why they make all the money..
 

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interesting point, would this work for all super stars also?
I don't see why not. QBs especially early on are going to be the easiest to market for a significant amount of money though and are the most expensive players for the league so it makes sense to focus on them.
 

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the ones that get paid are the Face of a brand that is part of a billion dollar marketing network... this is why they make all the money..

They all get paid. Even the QBs who aren't considered top tier. The position as a whole and even the non faces of the franchise do OK. It's a position that will pay, we've seen it plenty.
 

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Top quarterbacks are making about 20% of the cap when they sign. They are by far the most influential position in sports. When I consider most players on NFL rosters are on price control rookie contracts, it doesn't seem that out of whack.
 

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They all get paid. Even the QBs who aren't considered top tier. The position as a whole and even the non faces of the franchise do OK. It's a position that will pay, we've seen it plenty.
I think we can tell the ones who are paid franchise QB money from the ones getting paid to keep a spot warm for a season.
 

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I think we can tell the ones who are paid franchise QB money from the ones getting paid to keep a spot warm for a season.

Like Geno Smith been keeping a spot warm his whole career and has a deal in place worth a possible 100 million. Sure that's no Mahomes money but it's certainly a serious payday for a career backup. mid tier QB's are getting 30+
 

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Agree. I still can’t get over the over hyping and group thing the media maintained over Lamar Jackson’s contract.

99% of the media I’ve seen was on a personal mission to see the Ravens break the bank with guaranteed money for a quarterback without any thought to the team’s potential liability and risk to give garunteed money to a running quarterback that’s been injury prone because of it.

The NBA has already shown what happens when lunatics run the asylum and the media shows no business sense in these matters because they have an agenda to see certain people be given buckets of money…..must ease them of some guilt they harbor
Or maybe they know highlighting these contracts pisses people off who want to look down on athletes but can't. Pissed off people consume more media as outlets for their "outrage." Highly-rated networks know this and implement it well. Slanted truth-bending and all. Lol.
 
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