MNF: 49ers at Vikings

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Wait until the "no Deebo and no Trent Williams" excuses roll in for Brock Purdy.

For the Cowboys injuries are an excuse, for other teams injuries are a reason. Double standard time.
Sad how an overwhelming majority in here are hypocrites. I hear the Texans are looking for fans.
 

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Where are all the Dak-hating Purdy lovers now?

Come and defend your boy now that he's been figured out.
Figured out? How has he been figured out?

He was still carving up the Vikings. He throws the ball to a spot. Receiver made an extra move and was late to the spot. Interception. That's hardly figuring the QB out.

Pressing to win the game with time running out, interception. Not his best decision. That's do or die time, not he's been figured out.

The team has lost two games. I didn't watch the CLE game so can't comment but Purdy wasn't the reason they lost last night.
 

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Figured out? How has he been figured out?

He was still carving up the Vikings. He throws the ball to a spot. Receiver made an extra move and was late to the spot. Interception. That's hardly figuring the QB out.

Pressing to win the game with time running out, interception. Not his best decision. That's do or die time, not he's been figured out.

The team has lost two games. I didn't watch the CLE game so can't comment but Purdy wasn't the reason they lost last night.
yeah didnt the 49ers defense force only one punt the whole game?
 

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Figured out? How has he been figured out?

He was still carving up the Vikings. He throws the ball to a spot. Receiver made an extra move and was late to the spot. Interception. That's hardly figuring the QB out.

Pressing to win the game with time running out, interception. Not his best decision. That's do or die time, not he's been figured out.

The team has lost two games. I didn't watch the CLE game so can't comment but Purdy wasn't the reason they lost last night.
Purdy is another essentially above average QB.

Without his weapons = average

With weapons = looks elite
 

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Figured out? How has he been figured out?

He was still carving up the Vikings. He throws the ball to a spot. Receiver made an extra move and was late to the spot. Interception. That's hardly figuring the QB out.

Pressing to win the game with time running out, interception. Not his best decision. That's do or die time, not he's been figured out.

The team has lost two games. I didn't watch the CLE game so can't comment but Purdy wasn't the reason they lost last night.
Really so do or die time only works for other quarterbacks but not like the Arizona game with all the players we are missing and somehow that one was really big somehow here even though it meant nothing but by the way Brock Purdy had two interceptions in that game yes one was when it wasn't do or die time he also had a bunch of air off target passes you know what those are right inaccurate passes he also had a big penalty took a couple big sacks held on to the ball too long you know the same things a certain person I'm not allowed to mention gets the heat but this guy's getting excuses from you seriously I'll tell you this all four interceptions from that certain person this year came when the game was already decided and it didn't have any effect on the outcome so let's stay right there when I have to hear from this place on game day in the week following wins or losses when people are overly criticizing this other person....

And by the way Brock Purdy stat line against the Browns looked much like last year's Cooper rush against the Rams you know where it looked like he wasn't even in the game like it was so empty people were making fun of Brock Purdy saying it looked like a high school quarterback stat line... Are people overreacting yes but how about this this is exactly what our guy gets on a weekly basis win lose or draw he's overly criticized and now we can see how it's imbalanced even from our own fans making excuses for the other teams quarterback!!!! :facepalm::muttley::huh::popcorn::oldcouple:

How about we keep that same narrative for our own guy in the coming weeks and actually have some reality put into these games of why we're losing them because the two losses we have this year had nothing to do with him and that's a fact...

When I look at these last two 49er losses what I see is the other team's defense stepped up big time the coaches had a better game plan they adjusted better the players executed and had more energy...
 

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Purdy is another essentially above average QB.

Without his weapons = average

With weapons = looks elite
IMO people are looking for reasons to tear him down. All during the game people were commenting in the chat about how well he was playing. The commentators on TV were impressed. If they win last night, which he put them in position to do, the consensus would be that he bounced back, played well & found a way to win.
They lost, so now the narrative is he didn't play well.

I believe he played how he played whether the team won or lost. He was very impressive to me. I haven't seen anything to suggest he isn't playing well regardless of who is on the field with him.
 

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IMO people are looking for reasons to tear him down. All during the game people were commenting in the chat about how well he was playing. The commentators on TV were impressed. If they win last night, which he put them in position to do, the consensus would be that he bounced back, played well & found a way to win.
They lost, so now the narrative is he didn't play well.

I believe he played how he played whether the team won or lost. He was very impressive to me. I haven't seen anything to suggest he isn't playing well regardless of who is on the field with him.
It's an interesting point.

My immediate thought after the game was the Eagles are now very much the team to beat because we have seen Hurts ball out on the highest stage - the Superbowl itself. Rightly or wrongly I overlook his game losing interception against the Jets because of his performance in the Superbowl - it would have been enough to win almost any other Superbowl. Plus the Jets D at home made Allen look a muppet as well and he has also carried the Bills in the play offs in many games. The Jets D is no joke at home with the fans behind them.

The reason being that I now have to see Purdy execute the offense and win big games in the play offs even more than I did before the last two games. I do agree the narrative swings side to side sometimes based on one throw but he had a chance to win the game on the last drive and failed to do so.

We know Prescott is unable to handle it having fallen flat on his face in the previous two play offs. The team would need to carry him in the play offs for any success - we have 8 years of evidence to look back over on many occasions with a very good offensive line and a good defense. He simply hasn't been good enough.
 

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how it's imbalanced even from our own fans making excuses for the other teams quarterback!!!
I'm all for evaluating every player fairly. So, are you saying Purdy played poorly last night?

But if you want to talk imbalance, let's look at the double standards a lot of folks on this board apply to "their" players vs any other player.
 

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I'm all for evaluating every player fairly. So, are you saying Purdy played poorly last night?

But if you want to talk imbalance, let's look at the double standards a lot of folks on this board apply to "their" players vs any other player.
Yes his interceptions his sacks his errant passes cost his team a possible win that's it you don't wanna say he lost the game the way he played was not up to par to win a game not from what people are saying he's an elite quarterback and all that eleven wins in a row crap that never came in one season and it came in relief when there was less pressure on you when he has a team loaded with talent and I mean loaded yes his play was subpar he did not go out and win that game so you don't wanna call it he didn't lose the game well he didn't do anything to help win the game either...

And by the way I don't think you are all for being fair and objective when it comes to our quarterback that's a fact cause you're in here making excuses for Brock Purdy saying Oh well this player and that player they weren't there they didn't play well the defense didn't play well blah blah blah why don't we get that from our own guy because our two losses this year were really most of it was on our defense. But that's not what people were talking about not on media not on social media not here they're trying to blame our quarterback for not playing well enough to win not that he suck and lost the game but he didn't have the backs of our defense so let's say property did not have the back of his team he did not put him on his back he's lost two in a row to inferior teams on paper..

Also let's do this let's have that dumb discussion on how how did Brock Purdy lose to Kirk cousins and PJ I don't even know his name?? Isn't that what fans do they think quarterbacks play against each other even though they don't they play against the other teams defense but I remember when last year how did Prescott lose to rookie Mr. irrelevant rock Purdy well how did Brock Purdy lose to PJ and Kirk cousins when Prescott regularly beats Kirk cousins.. While we're on the subject jalen hurts has never beat Prescott... So we're gonna bring up all these questions about the quarterback because it is done here on a regular basis till our own guy all is fair in love and war here we are I have receipts that need to be paid you got that??
 

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I'm all for evaluating every player fairly. So, are you saying Purdy played poorly last night?

But if you want to talk imbalance, let's look at the double standards a lot of folks on this board apply to "their" players vs any other player.
VIkings played better and that is why they won. Which is why the vast majority of games in any sport are won.
The desperate defenders of #4 try and tear down any other QB to make him look better. Fact is that Purdy had not played enough yet to get a good read on whether he is going to be a real starting QB or just a bus driver. Does not matter what QB is playing if the starting skill players are out he is going to look bad unless the backups are good. The 49rs have lost two in a row; it will be interesting to see how they react and how Purdy reacts.
 

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Yes his interceptions his sacks his errant passes cost his team a possible win that's it you don't wanna say he lost the game the way he played was not up to par to win a game not from what people are saying he's an elite quarterback and all that eleven wins in a row crap that never came in one season and it came in relief when there was less pressure on you when he has a team loaded with talent and I mean loaded yes his play was subpar he did not go out and win that game so you don't wanna call it he didn't lose the game well he didn't do anything to help win the game either...

And by the way I don't think you are all for being fair and objective when it comes to our quarterback that's a fact cause you're in here making excuses for Brock Purdy saying Oh well this player and that player they weren't there they didn't play well the defense didn't play well blah blah blah why don't we get that from our own guy because our two losses this year were really most of it was on our defense. But that's not what people were talking about not on media not on social media not here they're trying to blame our quarterback for not playing well enough to win not that he suck and lost the game but he didn't have the backs of our defense so let's say property did not have the back of his team he did not put him on his back he's lost two in a row to inferior teams on paper..

Also let's do this let's have that dumb discussion on how how did Brock Purdy lose to Kirk cousins and PJ I don't even know his name?? Isn't that what fans do they think quarterbacks play against each other even though they don't they play against the other teams defense but I remember when last year how did Prescott lose to rookie Mr. irrelevant rock Purdy well how did Brock Purdy lose to PJ and Kirk cousins when Prescott regularly beats Kirk cousins.. While we're on the subject jalen hurts has never beat Prescott... So we're gonna bring up all these questions about the quarterback because it is done here on a regular basis till our own guy all is fair in love and war here we are I have receipts that need to be paid you got that??
Hilarious people talking about other people being fair who never are themselves,
 

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Yes his interceptions his sacks his errant passes cost his team a possible win that's it you don't wanna say he lost the game the way he played was not up to par to win a game not from what people are saying he's an elite quarterback and all that eleven wins in a row crap that never came in one season and it came in relief when there was less pressure on you when he has a team loaded with talent and I mean loaded yes his play was subpar he did not go out and win that game so you don't wanna call it he didn't lose the game well he didn't do anything to help win the game either...

And by the way I don't think you are all for being fair and objective when it comes to our quarterback that's a fact cause you're in here making excuses for Brock Purdy saying Oh well this player and that player they weren't there they didn't play well the defense didn't play well blah blah blah why don't we get that from our own guy because our two losses this year were really most of it was on our defense. But that's not what people were talking about not on media not on social media not here they're trying to blame our quarterback for not playing well enough to win not that he suck and lost the game but he didn't have the backs of our defense so let's say property did not have the back of his team he did not put him on his back he's lost two in a row to inferior teams on paper..

Also let's do this let's have that dumb discussion on how how did Brock Purdy lose to Kirk cousins and PJ I don't even know his name?? Isn't that what fans do they think quarterbacks play against each other even though they don't they play against the other teams defense but I remember when last year how did Prescott lose to rookie Mr. irrelevant rock Purdy well how did Brock Purdy lose to PJ and Kirk cousins when Prescott regularly beats Kirk cousins.. While we're on the subject jalen hurts has never beat Prescott... So we're gonna bring up all these questions about the quarterback because it is done here on a regular basis till our own guy all is fair in love and war here we are I have receipts that need to be paid you got that??
Well, we just disagree. You aren't known for seeing any deficiencies with Dak's game and making excuses by the bundles. This just seems like you wanting to smear another QB for the same things you excuse in your player. Seems to me you owe on those "receipts" you mention, rather than needing to be paid.

I watched almost the entire game, Purdy made most every play you could expect any QB to make given each situation (with his arm & legs). I simply said he played well and wasn't the reason they lost. That's a fair and honest assessment. I'm sure that will be a foreign concept to you.
 

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Yes his interceptions his sacks his errant passes cost his team a possible win that's it you don't wanna say he lost the game the way he played was not up to par to win a game not from what people are saying he's an elite quarterback and all that eleven wins in a row crap that never came in one season and it came in relief when there was less pressure on you when he has a team loaded with talent and I mean loaded yes his play was subpar he did not go out and win that game so you don't wanna call it he didn't lose the game well he didn't do anything to help win the game either...

And by the way I don't think you are all for being fair and objective when it comes to our quarterback that's a fact cause you're in here making excuses for Brock Purdy saying Oh well this player and that player they weren't there they didn't play well the defense didn't play well blah blah blah why don't we get that from our own guy because our two losses this year were really most of it was on our defense. But that's not what people were talking about not on media not on social media not here they're trying to blame our quarterback for not playing well enough to win not that he suck and lost the game but he didn't have the backs of our defense so let's say property did not have the back of his team he did not put him on his back he's lost two in a row to inferior teams on paper..

Also let's do this let's have that dumb discussion on how how did Brock Purdy lose to Kirk cousins and PJ I don't even know his name?? Isn't that what fans do they think quarterbacks play against each other even though they don't they play against the other teams defense but I remember when last year how did Prescott lose to rookie Mr. irrelevant rock Purdy well how did Brock Purdy lose to PJ and Kirk cousins when Prescott regularly beats Kirk cousins.. While we're on the subject jalen hurts has never beat Prescott... So we're gonna bring up all these questions about the quarterback because it is done here on a regular basis till our own guy all is fair in love and war here we are I have receipts that need to be paid you got that??
Anyone that claims one quarterback beat another is obviously nonsensical.

The point people were making last season was the one position the Cowboys should have had a significant advantage over the 49ers was the quarterback position given level of experience and respective salaries.

Putting aside the teams' defenses and offensive lines, Prescott had enough opportunities and time to make a few throws/plays to help the Cowboys win the game yet he failed. Purdy made one or two big time throws and helped the 49ers win. Nothing jazzy but enough to get it done. It was nothing like when Josh Allen carried the Bills with a bad o line to beat the Colts or when they should have beaten the Chiefs in the play offs only for the defense to let him down. But Purdy did more than Prescott given the reasonable expectations placed on both of them in relation to their respective experience in the league and salary.
 

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Well, we just disagree. You aren't known for seeing any deficiencies with Dak's game and making excuses by the bundles. This just seems like you wanting to smear another QB for the same things you excuse in your player. Seems to me you owe on those "receipts" you mention, rather than needing to be paid.

I watched almost the entire game, Purdy made most every play you could expect any QB to make given each situation (with his arm & legs). I simply said he played well and wasn't the reason they lost. That's a fair and honest assessment. I'm sure that will be a foreign concept to you.
actually i see exactly what i see on the field EACH week , really last 2 seasons been a lot of the same.

Lack of separation by the receivers, drops, bad routes, and tipped balls into iNts, all Facts
Lack of run game to help the O NOT be one dimensional.
Lack of strong OL play which leads to a poor pass rush win rate and yup no run game against the top DL/F7s

AZ game 3 PB OL missing lack of defense and again where are the Consistent open receivers? drop passes, blame the qb excuse, the rest ?:?only in BigD
49oer game zero run game, OL got bullied, flags everywhere, WR not open once again. bad defense...right qb is in decline

oh and let's not skip over the fact that if Prescott didn't start running and take over that game, we would have lost the last game as well...No run game again OL didn't play well again and even in a win WRs not open much comparatively when i watch other teams.

there is no debate every one of those things is absolutely a fact and it will affect the quarterback.... I see the other quarterbacks getting these excuses but Prescott doesn't...

What we all should be agree on is a team game it's a week to week league and these things happen instead of all pointing back to Prescott especially his four interceptions this year it's a joke that anybody thinks any of those led to any of the losses they were all late in games that were already out of reach because of the things I listed above there was no coming back in those games...
 

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Figured out? How has he been figured out?

He was still carving up the Vikings. He throws the ball to a spot. Receiver made an extra move and was late to the spot. Interception. That's hardly figuring the QB out.

Pressing to win the game with time running out, interception. Not his best decision. That's do or die time, not he's been figured out.

The team has lost two games. I didn't watch the CLE game so can't comment but Purdy wasn't the reason they lost last night.
Purdy throws 2 costly INTs during the last 4+ minutes in the game, but Purdy is not why the 49ers lost to the Vikings 22 - 17?
 

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Figured out? How has he been figured out?

He was still carving up the Vikings. He throws the ball to a spot. Receiver made an extra move and was late to the spot. Interception. That's hardly figuring the QB out.

Pressing to win the game with time running out, interception. Not his best decision. That's do or die time, not he's been figured out.

The team has lost two games. I didn't watch the CLE game so can't comment but Purdy wasn't the reason they lost last night.
I figured out as he loses more offensive linemen and weapons throughout the season, he will throw more picks and have more loses.
 
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