You Are What You Are

[raven55]

Just deal with it my prediction came through didn't want to have to admit that. See you draft after draft after draft and that's what it's gonna be with a bunch of moron's sitting in that room after a night of party time making decisions. like drafting a 5 foot running back that barely can get on the field. every time i listen to that senile man saying this is jerry jones on that phone it makes me sick it's his ego time not a football decision

 

[eromeopolk]

Elway went his whole career almost and won Nothing! Marino on this board would be called a Dog because he never ever won anything either! Let’s call him Marino Stat Bandito!

You are in another universe or the multi-verse. Go google John Elway and Dan Marino.

 

[eromeopolk]

I was buying your story until I got to the part where you lumped Jordan Love in with the elite QBs in NFL history. That's when jumped off the wagon. Jordan Love had a great game statistically but let's not forget his team just made it into the playoffs. I would also argue that Love could have had a really bad day if the Cowboys DBs did not let receivers roam free 25 yards down field for big plays. Some of those passes, Love was under pressure and threw off his back foot. If there was any Cowboys defenders within 5 yards, those wounded ducks probably would have been intercepted. Any QB can look elite if you don't cover his receivers. Those plays are gifts. This was the most embarrassing aspect of the game for Dallas, IMO. They left Green Bay get a big play like that on almost every drive. The Packers would start a drive inside their own 20 and in 1 play, a broken coverage and they are at the 50 or in Dallas territory.

Love also had an effective running game which made his play action fakes work. Dak fakes a handoff and other teams don't even bother looking at the RB. BTW, some of Dak's fakes are not very convincing. Little details like that do matter.

I agree, elite QBs raise the level of the players around them. So do elite coaches. Tom Brady did it every year, not every game, but over the course of the year Brady drove his team to wins. So did Aikman. Mahomes is the same way. The guy just makes plays any way he has to. For him failure is not an option, and that is what makes him an elite QB.

But what all elite QBs have is football intelligence. Joe Montana did not have the physical skills of some elite QBs. But he had football intelligence. Brady had football intelligence. Marino did too. So did Aikman, although Aikman was also a hyper competitive SOB on the field. All these guys have losing. Seeing Aikman, Brady, and even Mahomes popping off on the sidelines you knew they were not happy the way things were going and wanted it to change.

Dak is not elite, never will be. Love is not elite - yet. Maybe someday, but no now. Remember people were calling Hurts elite last year. Dak lacks the football intelligence of an elite QB, and honestly, while I think he is more competitive than Romo, he is nowhere near as competitive as Aikman. I think with the right team around him, Dak can be successful. But he needs leaders around him. Purdy for example doesn't look like he is in command of his team, but he has other leaders on that offense that spark the team, like Kittle and Deebo, and of course McCaffery who leads by example..

In retrospect, I think we were fooling ourselves if we thought Dallas could get to a Super Bowl unable to run the football or stop the run. The defense has been unreliable for 2 months. Thinking it would suddenly morph back into the Doomsday defense was our mistake.

I am sorry. Jerry Dumbo GM Jones has given Jonesboys fans so much Kool Aid to drink, you would not know a franchise arm talent QB even if he beat your team 48-32.

Stop that "lacks football intelligence". The man came out of college with an MBA and has excelled with Dumbos like Garrett, and Boy Genius, Kellen Moore, learning on the job. Did you say Romo lacks football intelligence?

Aikman was more competitive. Staubach was the most competitive.

 

[rags747]

You are in another universe or the multi-verse. Go google John Elway and Dan Marino.

I do not use GOOG but besides that Elway did not win a SB until his 15th season, prior to that he won nothing as it’s all about the Championships. Marino, the ultimate Stat Bandito as he never came close to winning a SB ring. What’s your point?

 

[Mark]

Dak lacks the football intelligence of an elite QB...

Totally agree. In addition, he appears to lack the mental resilience & fortitude to succeed when operating from a disadvantageous position, or under stress.

 

[Whirlwin]

What we are is losers.

That stench permeates throughout every fabric of the organization.

You’re right, you’re a bunch of losers. As far as the franchise, I definitely think they overachieved. We’re the best of the worst nothing more. i’m not sure we should’ve even been in the playoffs. If it wasn’t for the heart of some of the players, we probably wouldn’t have been. losers, absolutely not.

 

[Whirlwin]

Totally agree. In addition, he appears to lack the mental resilience & fortitude to succeed when operating from a disadvantageous position, or under stress.

Yeah, listen to the media, lol

 

[eromeopolk]

I do not use GOOG but besides that Elway did not win a SB until his 15th season, prior to that he won nothing as it’s all about the Championships. Marino, the ultimate Stat Bandito as he never came close to winning a SB ring. What’s your point?

You need to use Google or get a sports encyclopedia and find out how many Super Bowls John Elway;s arm threw his no running game, average defense, and no All Pro receiver teams too before winning back to back Super Bowls (1997-1998). Then look up how many Super Bowls the Arlington Jonesboys have been to since 1995. Elway has 2 rings which is 200% more than Dak and Romo.

Remember we are talking about Franchise QBs that can take below average to playoffs, playoffs to Conference Championships and Super Bowls. They elevate a team.

 

[raven55]

live with it or fine you america's team which is any of them except the cowboys but they earned that title

 

[zeke21]

Elway went his whole career almost and won Nothing! Marino on this board would be called a Dog because he never ever won anything either! Let’s call him Marino Stat Bandito!

I really hate that Elway comparison. He led the Broncos to a SB in 1986 (his third year as starter), in 87 and in 89. Yes they lost all three of those SB.. but even by then Elway had shown he could get it down in big moments and only one of those losses was at Elways feet/his play - 89.

That is why context is important. I know that after 89 there were doubts about whether Elway could get it done.. and the Broncos then had 8 years without much doing.. the difference being that Elway never had another 89.. he never laid another egg in a playoff game despite them losing.

Then he broke through.

It is insulting that people put Dak in these types of comparisons. Dak has failed.. like epically failed.. like lowest passing stats in the first half in history failed.. in 5 of his 6 playoff games. The ONLY playoff game that he looked even serviceable in the first half was last year against a Tampa team that should not have even been in the playoffs.. they had limped in on the back of the GOAT and the weakest division in history.

By the time Elway entered his 9th season as starter he had a playoff record of 7-5 and had won an NFL MVP.
Dak has a playoff record of 2-5 and has not won an NFL MVP.

Marino.. marino got drafted to a bad franchise.. bad. The fact that he kept that team relevant was a miracle.. and he still managed to drag them to a SB on the back on his own skill. Also by the time he entered his 9th season.. he had won an NFL MVP and had been to the Superbowl.

Just stop with the comparisons.. Dak is a flat track bully. End of story. He has never shown he can get it done when it matters. Not once.. despite leading a near All Pro level squad. He is a fraud.

 

[Wangchung83]

Elway went his whole career almost and won Nothing! Marino on this board would be called a Dog because he never ever won anything either! Let’s call him Marino Stat Bandito!

Young kids smh

 

[Wangchung83]

I do not use GOOG but besides that Elway did not win a SB until his 15th season, prior to that he won nothing as it’s all about the Championships. Marino, the ultimate Stat Bandito as he never came close to winning a SB ring. What’s your point?

This guy trophy is an idiot

 

[rags747]

I really hate that Elway comparison. He led the Broncos to a SB in 1986 (his third year as starter), in 87 and in 89. Yes they lost all three of those SB.. but even by then Elway had shown he could get it down in big moments and only one of those losses was at Elways feet/his play - 89.

That is why context is important. I know that after 89 there were doubts about whether Elway could get it done.. and the Broncos then had 8 years without much doing.. the difference being that Elway never had another 89.. he never laid another egg in a playoff game despite them losing.

Then he broke through.

It is insulting that people put Dak in these types of comparisons. Dak has failed.. like epically failed.. like lowest passing stats in the first half in history failed.. in 5 of his 6 playoff games. The ONLY playoff game that he looked even serviceable in the first half was last year against a Tampa team that should not have even been in the playoffs.. they had limped in on the back of the GOAT and the weakest division in history.

By the time Elway entered his 9th season as starter he had a playoff record of 7-5 and had won an NFL MVP.
Dak has a playoff record of 2-5 and has not won an NFL MVP.

Marino.. marino got drafted to a bad franchise.. bad. The fact that he kept that team relevant was a miracle.. and he still managed to drag them to a SB on the back on his own skill. Also by the time he entered his 9th season.. he had won an NFL MVP and had been to the Superbowl.

Just stop with the comparisons.. Dak is a flat track bully. End of story. He has never shown he can get it done when it matters. Not once.. despite leading a near All Pro level squad. He is a fraud.

I made zero comparison's, I responded to someone who did. Elway did win two SB’s in years 15/16, prior to that he won nothing, only the two SB’s qualify him as a Championship qb. Marino all World qb but never won anything of value when it comes to Championships. Who cares how many playoff games a qb wins, it means nothing. I’ll take Aikman As he won Championships.

 

[Wangchung83]

You’re right, you’re a bunch of losers. As far as the franchise, I definitely think they overachieved. We’re the best of the worst nothing more. i’m not sure we should’ve even been in the playoffs. If it wasn’t for the heart of some of the players, we probably wouldn’t have been. losers, absolutely not.

Losers you spelt it correctly now go look up definition.

I made zero comparison's, I responded to someone who did. Elway did win two SB’s in years 15/16, prior to that he won nothing, only the two SB’s qualify him as a Championship qb. Marino all World qb but never won anything of value when it comes to Championships. Who cares how many playoff games a qb wins, it means nothing. I’ll take Aikman As he won Championships.

The point is everyone and I mean everyone knows Marino has the talent, arguably the best arm ever. He showed that he could progress to the Super Bowl, league championship, he was stuck in mediocracy and he did all that surrounded by chumps with no rushing attack. It wasn’t Marinos fault and no one questioned his ability or skills. Dak however has plenty of people who question his ability and lack of skills. Go find me one YouTube video of Marino missing targets like dak missed against Carr. You won’t find any bc he was in pro bowl doing his thing against the likes of elway, young, Kelly, etc. Dak couldn’t hit a broad side of a barn

 

[CWR]

The Arlington Jonesboys are a 12-5 team that does not have a Franchise QB, and a franchise Head Coach. Forget your franchise Head Coach because you have Jerry Dumbo GM Jones as owner and GM and no franchise Head Coach would come to Dallas after Jones literally fired 2 Hall of Fame Franchise Head Coaches (Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson and ran off 2 other Franchise Head Coach (Bill Parcells and heir Sean Payton).

So what can you do at QB. First let me explain my definition of a franchise QB. A franchise QB will take a team to the next level, keep them from going down to a lower level, or maintain a high level. John Elway, Troy Aikman, Dan Marino, Roger Staubach, Pat Mahomes, and yes, Jordan Love. What all those QBs have in common is arm talent, above average to superior QB athleticism, and their teams believe that they cannot lose if the QB has a chance to win.

This was the difference on the field Sunday (Love vs Prescott). Stupid Dan Quinn just like he did in the Super Bowl tried to blitz and a franchise QB. The only thing you can do with a franchise QB is rush 4 and cover 7. Belichick gave the blue print vs. Peyton Manning until Manning got a RB game and defense that stopped the run (see Tony Dungy). Jerry Dumbo GM Jones got rid of his RB (12 rushing TDs) and a no.1 WR (in the Pro Bowl again) in back to back years. He did this without having a Franchise QB. Some will say we have a no.1 WR. Nope you have a WR that McCarthy made look like a no.1 WR. He has done that his entire career starting in New Orleans with Joe Horn (google him). If you insist on having a Dumbo GM, You need a franchise QB. If KC did not have Mahomes, that team would not be in the playoffs. But Mahomes does his Elway intimation of running and passing making up for his lack of talent at receiver. I said making up for the lack. That is what franchise QBs does for their teams. The Jonesboys do not have a franchise QB. They have Dak Prescott, a solid winning QB that needs a running game, talented receivers, and a defense that can stop the run to rush the pass. Dan Quinn philosophy to rush the pass to stop the run is asinine. That is why you lose to Arizona, barely beat the Lions, and have only 1 win against a +.500 opponent this year. That is also why you have Dak Prescott throwing the ball +35 times and losing games (along without having a RB).

You are what you are. You are not what Jerry Jones market you to be or says that you are. You are what Jerry Dumbo GM Jones built you to be. He built a 12-5 team that wins in a weak division, has no running game, no real no.1 WR, does not have a defense that can stop the run, cannot beat +500 teams consistently, and gets eliminated by real competition having franchise QBs.

Look man, you can't list Marino on there either. You should by all means list him but he never made another superbowl after his rookie year and never won anything.

Also yall have to stop with Love. I believe he could end up a good one, but he can't be given that distinction yet. Did everyone forget the love fest Hurts received a year ago? One season isn't enough to know.

It's harder to find a franchise qb by your definition than it is to build a team and staff around the level of qb we have. Unfortunately we're doing neither.

 

[Creeper]

I am sorry. Jerry Dumbo GM Jones has given Jonesboys fans so much Kool Aid to drink, you would not know a franchise arm talent QB even if he beat your team 48-32.

Stop that "lacks football intelligence". The man came out of college with an MBA and has excelled with Dumbos like Garrett, and Boy Genius, Kellen Moore, learning on the job. Did you say Romo lacks football intelligence?

Aikman was more competitive. Staubach was the most competitive.

No, I never said Romo lacks football intelligence. But I will say Romo had the same problem as Dak where he refused to throw the ball out of bounds to avoid a negative play.

But the main point of my post is that Love is not an elite QB - yet. And the reason he had a great game, 1 game, is that the Cowboys defense was so miserable. Again, when you have wide open receivers to throw to, it makes the game a lot easier for the QB. That is what Love faced.

 

[kskboys]

As long as I'm not what the wifey says I am, I'm good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kskboys]

No, I never said Romo lacks football intelligence. But I will say Romo had the same problem as Dak where he refused to throw the ball out of bounds to avoid a negative play.

But the main point of my post is that Love is not an elite QB - yet. And the reason he had a great game, 1 game, is that the Cowboys defense was so miserable. Again, when you have wide open receivers to throw to, it makes the game a lot easier for the QB. That is what Love faced.

Yeah, if Love is that great, we'll see what he does against SF. At present, he's being grossly overrated due to beating the crapp out of us. Josh Dobbs beat the crapp out of us too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Staubacher]

What we are is losers.

That stench permeates throughout every fabric of the organization.

It really does and the response to this beat down from every corner of the organization is sickening

 

[eromeopolk]

Look man, you can't list Marino on there either. You should by all means list him but he never made another superbowl after his rookie year and never won anything.

Also yall have to stop with Love. I believe he could end up a good one, but he can't be given that distinction yet. Did everyone forget the love fest Hurts received a year ago? One season isn't enough to know.

It's harder to find a franchise qb by your definition than it is to build a team and staff around the level of qb we have. Unfortunately we're doing neither.

Come back to reality. You saying Dan Marino was not a franchise QB? As I said to others Jerry Dumbo GM Jones has warped your reality of what is a real franchise QB.

Go google Dan Marino.