Why not just start Trey Lance?

Chasing6

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Dak is gone, the writing is on the wall and before you say he gives us the best chance to win this year, I agree, he is going to win more meaningless regular season games and if this team is fortunate to make the playoffs he isn't going to take us to a superbowl, that's not going to happen with this current team regardless and I think most everyone agrees with that take.

So starting Dak net's you nothing and actually hurts the 25 draft stock. Give Lance a true year of evaluation, the worst that can happen is the team goes 0-17 has the top pick or top five pick and free of Dak's cap hit. Or start Dak, win a few games, know nothing about Lance's ability and end up with a middle to late round first.
Why did we not pick up his 5th year option?

It is not hard to figure out. $25M for a starting QB is cheap. If we believed in Trance, we would have picked up his 5th year and we would not even be talking about extending or not extending Dak.
 

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Because Lance sucks. He made his money off 1 decent college season. Teams don't give up on their high draft pick unless they are mentally not ready for the nfl. Lance couldn't beat out rush in an open and fair competition to save his life.
And that one good year in college wasn't against the likes of Alabama, Michigan, Washington, LSU, Florida St. or Oregon.

The best thing Lance could do for the Cowboys is be part of a major trade with the Bears.
 

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The Joneses think the Cowboys can win the Super Bowl with Dak. They are telling the truth on that statement even though people disagree on this board.
Exactly. There is no "big picture" with Jerry and Cap Boy. I know we all want to think they have a plan...all in, tank, make moves to improve, something. But we are just gas in the wind, man. I still fully expect Dak to be extended, because Jerry thinks he's better than what he is, and if he isn't, so what? He doesn't care one way or another. If there is a "plan", it's to lie and say they couldn't do anything in FA because Dak.
 

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And that one good year in college wasn't against the likes of Alabama, Michigan, Washington, LSU, Florida St. or Oregon.

The best thing Lance could do for the Cowboys is be part of a major trade with the Bears.
GM Jethro wasted 2 years of Trances life. He should have gone to a team that was desperate for a QB and had an opportunity to play.
 

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This pretty much signals to every NFL player that they should never sign with the Cowboys.

It also would almost certainly result in the league taking those picks as penalties for such obvious tanking.

The league has never done this (taking picks for perceived tanking). And it would be impossible to prove. Fantasy is fun though.
 

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Because you run the risk of losing the locker room. Too many players and coaches have their futures tied up in this season to want to see what the backup has for next year because if Dallas doesn't win this year most of them won't be back next year.
Who cares. Dak wasn't the only one who choked in that playoff game. They all should be on notice.
 

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The league has never done this (taking picks for perceived tanking). And it would be impossible to prove. Fantasy is fun though.
GM Jethro's plan is to leave a HUGE hole at DT, that way every UDFA DT will want to sign with Dallas, because they will have a chance to play immediately.

We will sign 4 UDFA DT's and they will hype up at least 2 of them as the steal of UDFA. We will even pay the highest sign on bonus for UDFA in the NFL, just to add to the marketing ploy.

Then when we find out he actually sucks, they will say he had a season ending injury to cover their arse. It will be so unfortunate.
 

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If Dak wins the Super Bowl and then is a free agent his price tag will be over $60 million per season.
If Lance bombs in preseason (likely), Dak's price tag will be over $60 M. This is why Dak is waiting to sign. Dak he know.
 

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Dak is coming off one of the best regular seasons a QB has ever had in Cowboys history. Was Troy ever an MVP candidate? No he was not.

Dak had a bad game, our defense had a record breaking bad game.

Dak will get paid no matter what from an NFL team.

Jethro has no future QB, because he is a horrible GM with no back up plan.
We don’t have a future QB because we’ve had real good QB play for the past 8 seasons and haven’t had the need to invest a high draft pick on a QB. Every team that’s been blessed with a solid franchise QB will someday run into trouble at the position when their QB has to be replaced. Skyrocketing QB salaries has made it difficult to have a first round QB standing on the sidelines as a backup, so the only reasonable way to prepare for the future is with castoffs and lower round QBs. The Cowboys used a 5th and a 7th on Mike White and Ben DiNucci and neither panned out.

They used a 4th on Trey Lance preparing for the situation they’re in now. It’s extremely rare for any team that’s had great QB play over the years to have another potentially great QB waiting in the wings. The jury is still out on Lance who’s a project. Maybe he develops into something. If the Cowboys do move on from Dak after next season I would expect them to draft a QB and possibly bring in a veteran to compete with Lance. It could be a rough road ahead after Dak.
 

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If Dak wins the Super Bowl and then is a free agent his price tag will be over $60 million per season.
If he wins the SB we would pay it, but it’s not going to happen with this roster. We’re going to be depending on too many young players. We’re going to have to sink or swim with Mazi and several others.
 

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We don’t have a future QB because we’ve had real good QB play for the past 8 seasons and haven’t had the need to invest a high draft pick on a QB. Every team that’s been blessed with a solid franchise QB will someday run into trouble at the position when their QB has to be replaced. Skyrocketing QB salaries has made it difficult to have a first round QB standing on the sidelines as a backup, so the only reasonable way to prepare for the future is with castoffs and lower round QBs. The Cowboys used a 5th and a 7th on Mike White and Ben DiNucci and neither panned out.

They used a 4th on Trey Lance preparing for the situation they’re in now. It’s extremely rare for any team that’s had great QB play over the years to have another potentially great QB waiting in the wings. The jury is still out on Lance who’s a project. Maybe he develops into something. If the Cowboys do move on from Dak after next season I would expect us to draft a QB and possibly bring in a veteran to compete with Lance. It could be a rough road ahead after Dak.
Any real GM could anticipate what was coming. He signed the dumb contract, how would he not know? He had no plan, that is why he panicked and traded for Trance, in a last minute attempt to cover his arse.
 

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Any real GM could anticipate what was coming. He signed the dumb contract, how would he not know? He had no plan, that is why he panicked and traded for Trance, in a last minute attempt to cover his arse.
He had to re-sign Dak a few years ago. He paid him the going rate. He anticipated this was coming which why he traded for Lance. If you think teams are prepared to move on from their starting QB with another franchise QB on their roster you might want to look around the league.
 

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Because you run the risk of losing the locker room. Too many players and coaches have their futures tied up in this season to want to see what the backup has for next year because if Dallas doesn't win this year most of them won't be back next year.
That’s a really good point. My concern is if there is already division in the locker room. We hadn’t report that Dak “panics” from an undisclosed player, CD’s mom on twitter, Micah’s brother on twitter. Maybe they are putting off the extension because the locker room is already fractured. If that’s the case then our best move forward would be to start Lance. I think it’s odd they are putting off the extension. I think it’s one of 3 things
1. The locker room is fractured
2. They’re waiting to see what happens on the off the field issues
3. They don’t believe Dak can get it done in the playoffs and they’re scared what Francis will demand
 

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Exactly. There is no "big picture" with Jerry and Cap Boy. I know we all want to think they have a plan...all in, tank, make moves to improve, something. But we are just gas in the wind, man. I still fully expect Dak to be extended, because Jerry thinks he's better than what he is, and if he isn't, so what? He doesn't care one way or another. If there is a "plan", it's to lie and say they couldn't do anything in FA because Dak.
Dak would get extended if he is will to take a salary that will help the team. It appears Dak is siding with his agent.
 

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Who cares. Dak wasn't the only one who choked in that playoff game. They all should be on notice.
Maybe that is why CD and Micah are not getting extended. Why he isn't creating cap space with DLaw's contract. Let everyone walk.

I would be extremely impressed if he did that a long with trading CD and Micah.

Go all in on rebuilding.
 

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That’s a really good point. My concern is if there is already division in the locker room. We hadn’t report that Dak “panics” from an undisclosed player, CD’s mom on twitter, Micah’s brother on twitter. Maybe they are putting off the extension because the locker room is already fractured. If that’s the case then our best move forward would be to start Lance. I think it’s odd they are putting off the extension. I think it’s one of 3 things
1. The locker room is fractured
2. They’re waiting to see what happens on the off the field issues
3. They don’t believe Dak can get it done in the playoffs and they’re scared what Francis will demand
I have a feeling Todd France is asking way too much. The only leverage Dallas has is if they show they are willing to move on from Dak. Playing Lance would help with that but then they alienate a locker room full of guys playing for their football future including the entire coaching staff. There will be a lot of business decisions made by guys who don't want to get hurt if the team is not trying to win. It also sends a bad message to any potential free agent or coach they might want to attract in the future. Lastly, if they play Lance over Dak, then Dallas more or less commits to that $25 million option Lance has for next season while paying whatever the cap hit is for Dak. If Lance ends up being leaps and bounds better than Dak then this is all moot but I don't like those odds.
 

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Dak is gone, the writing is on the wall and before you say he gives us the best chance to win this year, I agree, he is going to win more meaningless regular season games and if this team is fortunate to make the playoffs he isn't going to take us to a superbowl, that's not going to happen with this current team regardless and I think most everyone agrees with that take.

So starting Dak net's you nothing and actually hurts the 25 draft stock. Give Lance a true year of evaluation, the worst that can happen is the team goes 0-17 has the top pick or top five pick and free of Dak's cap hit. Or start Dak, win a few games, know nothing about Lance's ability and end up with a middle to late round first.
Nothing but sour grapes from someone who has given up on Dak. We aren't getting to the playoffs without Dak.
 

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That’s a really good point. My concern is if there is already division in the locker room. We hadn’t report that Dak “panics” from an undisclosed player, CD’s mom on twitter, Micah’s brother on twitter. Maybe they are putting off the extension because the locker room is already fractured. If that’s the case then our best move forward would be to start Lance. I think it’s odd they are putting off the extension. I think it’s one of 3 things
1. The locker room is fractured
2. They’re waiting to see what happens on the off the field issues
3. They don’t believe Dak can get it done in the playoffs and they’re scared what Francis will demand
It is "The Last Dance."

It is not a make it or break it and it definitely is not a hot seat for Dak.

1. Dak most likely can get similar money, if not more next year as a free agent.
2. Dak can most likely find a team, that is actually trying to win a SB.
3. He can decide between these 2 options or somewhere in between.
4. Then Cowboys fans can be pissed when he signs for a playoff contender for $50M.

Pretty sure Dak's agent already knows what teams will be interested in him next year.
 

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That's not tanking. It's allowed to overhaul your team. You're not aiming for bad results. But you're not satisfied with the QB position and will try a former 1st rd draft pick. That's future building and not tanking. Never would the NFL take away draft picks for that.

And I really doubt players wouldn't want to sign with the Cowboys after giving TL a chance. How did Aikman got his job? (NOT saying Lance is Aikman). They lost all but one games in his first season. And players still came. At some point you have to try something new.
Starting a guy who didn’t take a snap last year, and wasn’t even on the active Gameday roster other than emergency backup over a guy who was #2 in MVP voting is absolutely tanking.

And as for how players would feel, imagine what CeeDees year and upcoming contract would look like if he had Trey Lance starting last year?

Players would go crazy.
 

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I have a feeling Todd France is asking way too much. The only leverage Dallas has is if they show they are willing to move on from Dak. Playing Lance would help with that but then they alienate a locker room full of guys playing for their football future including the entire coaching staff. There will be a lot of business decisions made by guys who don't want to get hurt if the team is not trying to win. It also sends a bad message to any potential free agent or coach they might want to attract in the future. Lastly, if they play Lance over Dak, then Dallas more or less commits to that $25 million option Lance has for next season while paying whatever the cap hit is for Dak. If Lance ends up being leaps and bounds better than Dak then this is all moot but I don't like those odds.
The Cowboys must decide on Lance's 5th option in 36 days (May 2, 2024), not next year.
 
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