The importance of good defense

[gimmesix]

Thought you meant Hughes at first.

Yeah didn’t Emmitt take like all 13 plays on a TD drive early second half?

I somehow never rewatched that game in full.

After Washington returned a fumble for a TD to tie the game, it was either the next drive or the one after that where we handed it to Emmitt on almost every play. I think there was one pass and it was a dump-off to Moose because Aikman was under pressure.

Bruce Smith really brought the pressure in this game after being held in check in the previous Super Bowl. I'm certainly not blaming the passing game struggles all on Aikman. He missed some throws but Buffalo made it uncomfortable for him in the pocket.

 

[conner01]

Mazi was a bad pick because of his skillset.

Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant are both top DTs in this draft and they have all the skills to be great DTs.

It just doesn't follow that because a failed player came from a school that other players at that position from that school are also bad. Unless you're saying the MICH only signs DTs that won't be good in the NFL, I guess.

Mazi problems could be seen on film and I don’t see how they missed it. He’s always the last guy off the snap. In college and the nfl. **** is a prime example of falling in love with measurables instead of performance

 

[kskboys]

Mazi problems could be seen on film and I don’t see how they missed it. He’s always the last guy off the snap. In college and the nfl. **** is a prime example of falling in love with measurables instead of performance

Since our wonderful GM admittedly doesn't take the time to watch game tape, not surprising.

I think Jerry drafts on rumor and hoopla. Only way to explain our drafts.

 

[gimmesix]

Since our wonderful GM admittedly doesn't take the time to watch game tape, not surprising.

I think Jerry drafts on rumor and hoopla. Only way to explain our drafts.

I don't think Jerry was responsible for the Mazi pick, at least not as far as choosing him. I think that's on our scouts and coaches. Now, Jerry might have agreed that we needed a huge DT, but I doubt he knew his Mazis from his Bresees. (BTW, I initially wanted Bresee but fans here kept talking bad about him.)

 

[CCBoy]

Mazi problems could be seen on film and I don’t see how they missed it. He’s always the last guy off the snap. In college and the nfl. **** is a prime example of falling in love with measurables instead of performance

He was broken down as a player and is still returning to what he is familiar to as a defensive tackle. He just needs unblamed support and accepted as he stands his own ground.

 

[Flamma]

After Washington returned a fumble for a TD to tie the game, it was either the next drive or the one after that where we handed it to Emmitt on almost every play. I think there was one pass and it was a dump-off to Moose because Aikman was under pressure.

Bruce Smith really brought the pressure in this game after being held in check in the previous Super Bowl. I'm certainly not blaming the passing game struggles all on Aikman. He missed some throws but Buffalo made it uncomfortable for him in the pocket.

If I remember correctly, Buffalo was in position to take a bigger lead. I think they ended up settling for a FG and missing it. Something went wrong for them. I forget what.

Washington was Johnny on the spot. He executed a scoop and score. Our hero was Thurman Thomas. Just like in the previous SB.

 

[Flamma]

Since our wonderful GM admittedly doesn't take the time to watch game tape, not surprising.

I think Jerry drafts on rumor and hoopla. Only way to explain our drafts.

I'm not going to point a finger at anyone. I just think the Cowboys should have tried to address a position in the offseason before going into the draft. They choose not to do this as usual. It's all on the draft.

 

[kskboys]

I don't think Jerry was responsible for the Mazi pick, at least not as far as choosing him. I think that's on our scouts and coaches. Now, Jerry might have agreed that we needed a huge DT, but I doubt he knew his Mazis from his Bresees. (BTW, I initially wanted Bresee but fans here kept talking bad about him.)

No sir. Jerry is the GM, it's all on him, good or bad. Jerry gets credit for the 3 super bowls in the 90s, and credit for the clusterfudge since. If he's not capable of analyzing Mazi(and he's not), then put someone as the GM who can. Don't forget, Jerry himself has said publicly that he refuses to watch game tape of possible draftees. He does everything on a wing and a prayer.

 

[kskboys]

I'm not going to point a finger at anyone. I just think the Cowboys should have tried to address a position in the offseason before going into the draft. They choose not to do this as usual. It's all on the draft.

I don't understand. The GM's job is to put the team together. Of course it's on him, that's the way it works.

Jerry believes the DT position has been addressed. He's that out of it.

 

[gtb1943]

ITs very clear that as regards the first rd pick Jethro is the prime mover. Anyone claiming otherwise is flat out lying.
The Mazi pick is on him
Now i will admit that his record in the first rd is excellent the last fifteen years or so. It is noticeable where the duds are which are on D.
When it comes to picking D players, he simply is not very good first or second rd compared to O players

 

[Nova]

Eli never had to score more than 21 points in both super bowl runs.

Defense is important.

 

[blueblood70]

Yeah, he made two really big plays. Maybe we win without them anyway, but our offense wasn't doing much against Buffalo's defense. Emmitt did have a big day, though.

I'm not sure which Buffalo game we're referring here but we're talking about the one where we were down at halftime because of Aikman's interception yes even aikman throws interceptions in the playoffs because the offense wasn't moving to football but in the second-half the defense and Emmett Smith took over they helped aikman to a championship let's be clear I know seems like a troll pose but it's not because I remember these games I remember that Roger and Troy were not perfect I remember how great our teams were and how everybody contributed to a win the same way they contribute to losses.lol

but if it's the game I'm referring to that quickly in the third quarter got a defensive turnover or a pick six and then the run game took over and they bailed out what was looking like a really bad day for Troy.....

 

[blueblood70]

Since our wonderful GM admittedly doesn't take the time to watch game tape, not surprising.

I think Jerry drafts on rumor and hoopla. Only way to explain our drafts.

You ever hear of delegation?

you ever hear of a corporation, which this is very much set up like a corporation, they have employees that breakdown tape, film, and send you the scouting reports, all snipped up into all kinds of players, plays, and opponents faced etc etc etc.

I'm betting a whole lot of GMs actually don't watch film, they sit in on meetings, and they allow say a group of 12 or 14 actual employees whose jobs is to do this very thing ,as scouts and as the way they manage the videos,​

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they're the ones that travel around and do most of the legwork for the GM(asst GMS ie WM type), and then once they compile some of these players they target, they may watch a few of the films high/lowlights,​

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but I'm betting most GM's do not sit around and watch film on players... they just don't, that's not their primary job, they're a boss of a very large group that they will delegate all these responsibilities too.​

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so somehow you think Jerry's different because he doesn't watch a lot of tape on players, he's never even heard of most of these players..​

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that's the job of the people below him that's why there's 1200 employees if you count the players that are under the Dallas Cowboys corporate umbrella.. They are set up the same way any other CFO and CEO and everything else that is staged from the top to the bottom, you have to delegate a lot of this, and I'm betting film work is not a primary responsibility of most GMS and they don't do it.​

that really falls on Will McClay, literally is the one that's getting in with this group that are doing all the legwork, and then he brings the pertinent information to Jerry, and then they decide as a group that's like a boardroom the way they sit around the draft table, they call that a war room still, they're getting all this information from a lot of resources...

Someone coaches sit there and suggest players and scouts confirm, and they make an informed group decision, that's how we end up with these players has nothing to do with how much film A GM watch..

They build their big board from a lot of resources. I mean you can't trust your employees then why have them?

But if you'd like to question my theory,​

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then why don't you do an actual 32 team interview and interview every GM and ask him how much actual video does he watch of potential prosects. I would like to hear all 32 teams feedback before people come to the conclusion that Jerry's so different than GMS.. when really it's really not that big a difference, I know it seems like it... I'm not calling him a good GM, but I'm not also calling him the worst GM, but I'm going to tell you this he does a lot of the same things all GMs do, and he also delegates a lot of responsibilities to his employees, as he should, they get paid very well for that very reason...​

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But there is one thing I'll agree with if he didn't try to be the owner and the GM maybe he would have a little more time to get a little bit more involved in some of this but I've seen head coaches that are also the GM so how's that any different they're doing 2 jobs I've seen head coaches that are also a coordinator defensive or offensive that's splitting their time so we can have this debate all day none of us really know what goes on in any of these teams front offices we're making a lot of assumptions because we've never been there no one here can claim they've been part of a major sports team's front office especially in the NFL where they can give us real insight we're just using our best feel or guess.

 

[blueblood70]

I don't understand. The GM's job is to put the team together. Of course it's on him, that's the way it works.

Jerry believes the DT position has been addressed. He's that out of it.

First of all, I don't think he truly believes that, but you can keep explaining the operation of his mind and tell me your 30-year experience with Jerry says you know best and that you know he's done with the DT position.

I can tell you this much it has been addressed enough going into the draft to know where you need to pick one in the draft.. there's quite a few guys on this team and don't dismiss what they have in;

Mazi, Rogers, Joseph, Thomas, Osa, Wheat, Daxon, and TBD in the draft.. Maybe this new coaching staff especially our new defensive tackle line coach... just maybe he can turn Rogers into something nice rotation with osa and joseph... But what if they pick a defensive tackle in the first 3 rounds you know they got choices there with graham, grant, Nolen, Harmon, and sanders.

so your choice and where they fall in the draft? If we get one of these guys are you gonna be happy then?

1. Mason GrahamMichigan. DT · 2. Derrick HarmonOregon. DT · 3. Walter NolenOle Miss. DT · 4. Kenneth GrantMichigan. DT · 5. T.J. SandersSouth Carolina.

 

[DallasEast]

Since our wonderful GM admittedly doesn't take the time to watch game tape, not surprising.

I think Jerry drafts on rumor and hoopla. Only way to explain our drafts.

You forgot to add 'with his gut' also. They influence his roster acquisitions, including free agent signings (see Trey Lance).

 

[gtb1943]

I'm not sure which Buffalo game we're referring here but we're talking about the one where we were down at halftime because of Aikman's interception yes even aikman throws interceptions in the playoffs because the offense wasn't moving to football but in the second-half the defense and Emmett Smith took over they helped aikman to a championship let's be clear I know seems like a troll pose but it's not because I remember these games I remember that Roger and Troy were not perfect I remember how great our teams were and how everybody contributed to a win the same way they contribute to losses.lol

but if it's the game I'm referring to that quickly in the third quarter got a defensive turnover or a pick six and then the run game took over and they bailed out what was looking like a really bad day for Troy.....

Aikman I believe was still suffering from effects of the concussion he got in the NFC championship game. Honestly, Kosar should have started the second half.

 

[KingCorcoran]

You ever hear of delegation?

you ever hear of a corporation, which this is very much set up like a corporation, they have employees that breakdown tape, film, and send you the scouting reports, all snipped up into all kinds of players, plays, and opponents faced etc etc etc.

I'm betting a whole lot of GMs actually don't watch film, they sit in on meetings, and they allow say a group of 12 or 14 actual employees whose jobs is to do this very thing ,as scouts and as the way they manage the videos,​

​

they're the ones that travel around and do most of the legwork for the GM(asst GMS ie WM type), and then once they compile some of these players they target, they may watch a few of the films high/lowlights,​

​

but I'm betting most GM's do not sit around and watch film on players... they just don't, that's not their primary job, they're a boss of a very large group that they will delegate all these responsibilities too.​

​

so somehow you think Jerry's different because he doesn't watch a lot of tape on players, he's never even heard of most of these players..​

​

that's the job of the people below him that's why there's 1200 employees if you count the players that are under the Dallas Cowboys corporate umbrella.. They are set up the same way any other CFO and CEO and everything else that is staged from the top to the bottom, you have to delegate a lot of this, and I'm betting film work is not a primary responsibility of most GMS and they don't do it.​

that really falls on Will McClay, literally is the one that's getting in with this group that are doing all the legwork, and then he brings the pertinent information to Jerry, and then they decide as a group that's like a boardroom the way they sit around the draft table, they call that a war room still, they're getting all this information from a lot of resources...

Someone coaches sit there and suggest players and scouts confirm, and they make an informed group decision, that's how we end up with these players has nothing to do with how much film A GM watch..

They build their big board from a lot of resources. I mean you can't trust your employees then why have them?

But if you'd like to question my theory,​

​

then why don't you do an actual 32 team interview and interview every GM and ask him how much actual video does he watch of potential prosects. I would like to hear all 32 teams feedback before people come to the conclusion that Jerry's so different than GMS.. when really it's really not that big a difference, I know it seems like it... I'm not calling him a good GM, but I'm not also calling him the worst GM, but I'm going to tell you this he does a lot of the same things all GMs do, and he also delegates a lot of responsibilities to his employees, as he should, they get paid very well for that very reason...​

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But there is one thing I'll agree with if he didn't try to be the owner and the GM maybe he would have a little more time to get a little bit more involved in some of this but I've seen head coaches that are also the GM so how's that any different they're doing 2 jobs I've seen head coaches that are also a coordinator defensive or offensive that's splitting their time so we can have this debate all day none of us really know what goes on in any of these teams front offices we're making a lot of assumptions because we've never been there no one here can claim they've been part of a major sports team's front office especially in the NFL where they can give us real insight we're just using our best feel or guess.

No one knows how Jerry Jones approaches the duties of General Manager in deference to building a roster. Here’s some reality. Half the GMs in the NFL have not been in that position with their current teams for five years. More reality. Half the current GMs in the NFL will be terminated in the next 36 months. Jerry Jones will not be one of them regardless of his team’s performance.

 

[kskboys]

You ever hear of delegation?

you ever hear of a corporation, which this is very much set up like a corporation, they have employees that breakdown tape, film, and send you the scouting reports, all snipped up into all kinds of players, plays, and opponents faced etc etc etc.

I'm betting a whole lot of GMs actually don't watch film, they sit in on meetings, and they allow say a group of 12 or 14 actual employees whose jobs is to do this very thing ,as scouts and as the way they manage the videos,​

​

they're the ones that travel around and do most of the legwork for the GM(asst GMS ie WM type), and then once they compile some of these players they target, they may watch a few of the films high/lowlights,​

​

but I'm betting most GM's do not sit around and watch film on players... they just don't, that's not their primary job, they're a boss of a very large group that they will delegate all these responsibilities too.​

​

so somehow you think Jerry's different because he doesn't watch a lot of tape on players, he's never even heard of most of these players..​

​

that's the job of the people below him that's why there's 1200 employees if you count the players that are under the Dallas Cowboys corporate umbrella.. They are set up the same way any other CFO and CEO and everything else that is staged from the top to the bottom, you have to delegate a lot of this, and I'm betting film work is not a primary responsibility of most GMS and they don't do it.​

that really falls on Will McClay, literally is the one that's getting in with this group that are doing all the legwork, and then he brings the pertinent information to Jerry, and then they decide as a group that's like a boardroom the way they sit around the draft table, they call that a war room still, they're getting all this information from a lot of resources...

Someone coaches sit there and suggest players and scouts confirm, and they make an informed group decision, that's how we end up with these players has nothing to do with how much film A GM watch..

They build their big board from a lot of resources. I mean you can't trust your employees then why have them?

But if you'd like to question my theory,​

​

then why don't you do an actual 32 team interview and interview every GM and ask him how much actual video does he watch of potential prosects. I would like to hear all 32 teams feedback before people come to the conclusion that Jerry's so different than GMS.. when really it's really not that big a difference, I know it seems like it... I'm not calling him a good GM, but I'm not also calling him the worst GM, but I'm going to tell you this he does a lot of the same things all GMs do, and he also delegates a lot of responsibilities to his employees, as he should, they get paid very well for that very reason...​

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But there is one thing I'll agree with if he didn't try to be the owner and the GM maybe he would have a little more time to get a little bit more involved in some of this but I've seen head coaches that are also the GM so how's that any different they're doing 2 jobs I've seen head coaches that are also a coordinator defensive or offensive that's splitting their time so we can have this debate all day none of us really know what goes on in any of these teams front offices we're making a lot of assumptions because we've never been there no one here can claim they've been part of a major sports team's front office especially in the NFL where they can give us real insight we're just using our best feel or guess.

I'm not going past your first line. If you ever want me to read your stuff, you're going to have to stop being lazy and use punctuation. If you did in this one, let me know and I'll read.

Your first line didn't fit my post. Everything is on the GM, nature of the best. Delegating is necessary for an NFL GM, but Jerry has refused to delegate since Jimmy.

 

[gimmesix]

I'm not sure which Buffalo game we're referring here but we're talking about the one where we were down at halftime because of Aikman's interception yes even aikman throws interceptions in the playoffs because the offense wasn't moving to football but in the second-half the defense and Emmett Smith took over they helped aikman to a championship let's be clear I know seems like a troll pose but it's not because I remember these games I remember that Roger and Troy were not perfect I remember how great our teams were and how everybody contributed to a win the same way they contribute to losses.lol

but if it's the game I'm referring to that quickly in the third quarter got a defensive turnover or a pick six and then the run game took over and they bailed out what was looking like a really bad day for Troy.....

Yes, that's the 1993 game. We were down 13-6 in the first half, and Aikman had thrown an interception. The defense forced a fumble early in the second half that Washington returned for a TD to tie the game. Then, either the next drive or the one after that, we handed to Emmitt on all but one play and he rushed for 61 yards and a TD.

Without those efforts, I think there's a good chance we lose to the Bills because Bruce Smith was constantly harassing Aikman and he wasn't having a good day. Maybe if the defense and Emmitt hadn't stepped up, Aikman would have, but I think Buffalo fans instead would be talking about how well their defense played.

 

[gimmesix]

No sir. Jerry is the GM, it's all on him, good or bad. Jerry gets credit for the 3 super bowls in the 90s, and credit for the clusterfudge since. If he's not capable of analyzing Mazi(and he's not), then put someone as the GM who can. Don't forget, Jerry himself has said publicly that he refuses to watch game tape of possible draftees. He does everything on a wing and a prayer.

I don't give him all the credit for the three Super Bowls, so I don't give him all the blame for draft picks. I certainly don't expect Jerry to watch game tape. He has McClay for that, and if he's not listening to McClay as far as who to pick, then there's no reason to have McClay around. I don't think McClay would be here if Jerry wasn't listening to him.

So I blame Jerry, McClay, Quinn and McCarthy all for Mazi. Throw Stephen in there as well. Let's even give some blame to Charlotte just because.