The real problem with WR & RB

[Deep_Freeze]

We had as good of draft as we can hope for in our circumstances.

The problem isn't the draft, its our owner being cheap once again in FA. Last year, he was too cheap or we would have a RB. This year, he was too cheap or we would have a WR. In consecutive years, he has destroyed this team as those positions would not be a concern if he had done anything in FA. We need to stop fighting each other as much and know Jerry is the cause for everything. His son is just as bad as him, just a worse snake oil salesman.

We would have needed over 20 picks to actually fill most our holes, and that might've just helped. This team will not win anything as long as they are this cheap and will not be active management at all. Its crazy to try to trade instead of getting a player in free agency, only desperate teams do that.

Actually getting all those OL in FA only to draft one in the first round. Jerry was a guard himself, he must have dreams at night about them. A balanced roster with an aggressive GM wins championships. We definitely don't have that.

 

[DandyDon52]

Welcome to jerrys circus !!
We all know this, but what can we actually do about it lol

 

[rambo2]

We had as good of draft as we can hope for in our circumstances.

The problem isn't the draft, its our owner being cheap once again in FA. Last year, he was too cheap or we would have a RB. This year, he was too cheap or we would have a WR. In consecutive years, he has destroyed this team as those positions would not be a concern if he had done anything in FA. We need to stop fighting each other as much and know Jerry is the cause for everything. His son is just as bad as him, just a worse snake oil salesman.

We would have needed over 20 picks to actually fill most our holes, and that might've just helped. This team will not win anything as long as they are this cheap and will not be active management at all. Its crazy to try to trade instead of getting a player in free agency, only desperate teams do that.

Actually getting all those OL in FA only to draft one in the first round. Jerry was a guard himself, he must have dreams at night about them. A balanced roster with an aggressive GM wins championships. We definitely don't have that.

They aren't done.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

They aren't done.

Jerry will promise something, and either not do it or do not enough. I've seen all 30 years of it.

If he makes a trade it will cost him draft picks, which would dig into his build through the draft policy as he would be losing picks. You only make a trade if you think you can win it all. There is no trade that would make us win a ring this year, so there is no reason to make one.....unless you think we can get Mahomes

But if he actually wanted FAs that were not JAGs, he wouldn't give up any picks.....but he will have to pay money like he did 30 years ago. Heck we would have DHenry right now and not be worried about RB. Now he is too cheap and lazy to do that at the appropriate time for the team. I think he is so out of touch that it will get worse. He's not trying to win, and I believe that has everything to do with his cheap idiot son who is only worried about his inheritance instead of winning.

Bottomline, Jerry wants to win it his way, and now thats by paying Dak the most money in history, CD, and Micah. Everyone else he wants to give a bag of chips and dip with a minimum contract and they better enjoy it.

 

[CowboyoWales]

The problem isn't the draft, its our owner being cheap once again in FA. Last year, he was too cheap or we would have a RB.

What Jerry WILL NEVER DO, is sign a FA, when his advisors are saying 'we are high on XYZ in the draft'. Yes it's cheap, but when we dont follow the board (because we'd just spent on a FA), we start drafting for need ....and get TACO, MAZI, GUYTON (whom I havent totally given up on).

This year, he was too cheap or we would have a WR. In consecutive years, he has destroyed this team as those positions would not be a concern if he had done anything in FA.

So, if you read the room, we were high on TMAC and had very few 1st Rd grades. If we'd signed a FA and TMAC was there at 12 (which probably would of been our highest ranked player) we would of doubled up (over compensated resources).
At the moment, Jerry has done well in the off-season, now is the time to find an experienced WR2 from the post draft cuts.

 

[big dog cowboy]

This team will not win anything

They are winning at Forbes.

That is priority #1 for the Jones clan.

 

[CCBoy]

They seem to be ordering a lot of plexaderm.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

What Jerry WILL NEVER DO, is sign a FA, when his advisors are saying 'we are high on XYZ in the draft'. Yes it's cheap, but when we dont follow the board (because we'd just spent on a FA), we start drafting for need ....and get TACO, MAZI, GUYTON (whom I havent totally given up on).


So, if you read the room, we were high on TMAC and had very few 1st Rd grades. If we'd signed a FA and TMAC was there at 12 (which probably would of been our highest ranked player) we would of doubled up (over compensated resources).
At the moment, Jerry has done well in the off-season, now is the time to find an experienced WR2 from the post draft cuts.

All the good FAs are gone by the time the draft gets here. If you fill the holes with actual good FAs then you can go into the draft with total BPA freedom and with a much better team. You can't just say that a player in the draft will be there when you pick, its unpredictable. A FA target for need is the only way to go. At least that's what winning teams do, and winning costs money.

Jerry on the other hand just skips FA entirely except for some cheap JAGs. Then he has to draft for needs as he has too many holes. Every player we draft is a need based player, including this most recent draft. For instance, Taco, Mazi, and Guyton you mentioned were need based picks, they were definitely not BPA. If he actually planned ahead, there is alot of players we wouldn't even have right now. It is a luxury to have some of those holes filled with good players so you truly can go BPA in the draft, which I prefer.

Don't drink the JerryJuice that comes out of his mouth, but if you do i got some bench front property in Kansas I can sell you.....

 

[CowboyoWales]

All the good FAs are gone by the time the draft gets here. If you fill the holes with actual good FAs then you can go into the draft with total BPA freedom and with a much better team.

No, the idea of signing another top level WR (to compliment the top paid CeeDee) and then having TMAC as BPA.... isn't the way to proceed....when we aren't competing in 2025 (and have holes to fill).

Then he has to draft for needs as he has too many holes. Every player we draft is a need based player, including this most recent draft. For instance, Taco, Mazi, and Guyton you mentioned were need based picks, they were definitely not BPA. If he actually planned ahead, there is alot of players we wouldn't even have right now. It is a luxury to have some of those holes filled with good players so you truly can go BPA in the draft, which I prefer.

You're confusing yourself, we did draft BPA.
This draft is nothing like either 2023 (which for Jerry was All-In.... resolving the issues of CB = Gilmore, and WR2 = Cooks and then drafting for need = run defense= Mazi).
2024, again need based, Tyron and Biadascz's replacements.
2025, they did the right thing.....our Board indicated TMAC was the pick.

Jerry's cheap, wow, stop the press, but signing another expensive piece to accompany the $90m+ on QB and a WR2, when we"ve probably got a couple of WR's high on your board isn't going to happen (ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR, WHERE WE'VE ALL BAR MAILED IN SEASON).

 

[JW82]

We had as good of draft as we can hope for in our circumstances.

The problem isn't the draft, its our owner being cheap once again in FA. Last year, he was too cheap or we would have a RB. This year, he was too cheap or we would have a WR. In consecutive years, he has destroyed this team as those positions would not be a concern if he had done anything in FA. We need to stop fighting each other as much and know Jerry is the cause for everything. His son is just as bad as him, just a worse snake oil salesman.

We would have needed over 20 picks to actually fill most our holes, and that might've just helped. This team will not win anything as long as they are this cheap and will not be active management at all. Its crazy to try to trade instead of getting a player in free agency, only desperate teams do that.

Actually getting all those OL in FA only to draft one in the first round. Jerry was a guard himself, he must have dreams at night about them. A balanced roster with an aggressive GM wins championships. We definitely don't have that.

Yup. How good does this roster look right now, if you had devonte adams or traded for metcalf. Or even Kupp. I do believe they will make a trade for wr2 but as of today, our top need entering the offseason is still our top need.

My theory on them Bringing in all those guards but no tackles is, they see their plan B if Guyton fails is Tyler smith moving to LT and back filling his spot with one of the 25 guards they brought in.

 

[MikeT22]

They aren't done.

Which ‘26 draft pick are we going to trade and for who? Or are you relying on other UDFA’s, UFL, June 1st and camp cuts?

 

[blueblood70]

Or what if mahfa and blue turn into I don't know let's just use hypotheticals because this has happened terrell Davis under drafted lots of undrafted free agents that turned out to be pretty damn good guys got the physicality we need he is really close to Martinez he's got little Cameron Scattaboo in him and then you add in lightning Blue who's got a lot of Tony Pollard in him but really he's built and could be a Jamir Gibbs without the fumbling problems and then you add in the competition from Williams and Sanders and you're saying there's nothing at running back?

OH by the way how'd that workout for Derek Henry and the Ravens oh that's right they finished a game less than a year before they didn't even make it back to the championship game have their workout for the Giants and Saquan Barkley that's right it didn't he had to go to a loaded team for it to work it wasn't just the running back it wasn't just the offensive line it wasn't just the quarterback or the two great wide receivers or the defensive unit which was top notch couldn't have been all that together could it?

How did one of the best running backs in the history of football never get anything done in the playoffs never did anything great but he's in the Hall of Fame right is that the individual he was great that would be Barry Sanders but he didn't help Detroit to climb any big heights they did nothing.

Shall I go on I mean a lot of these running backs moved around in Saquan Barkley's the only one who made a big difference last year but he came on to a team that was actually running back away but I'm betting they could have won the Super Bowl without him could they have gotten there I don't know he had a great season but let's not act like one special running back like say we picked up Derek Henry was going to change what happened last year or what could happen this year why don't we let this roster get complete..

I find it also curious to how the Raiders didn't do anything with Josh Jacobs but when he left it went somewhere else you guys beg for him but did he change the Packers or wherever he went but also you look at the Rakers now pick up AJ1 of the best running backs in the league you think they're going to the Super Bowl because of that pick?

This is about assembling a team finding a culture and an identity shift and that's what they're trying to do with the offensive line looking like the main focus along with the scheme coaches are going to actually literally commit to the run not lie about it like Mike Mccarthy so I just want to make sure I understand where your heads at because I get it I was disappointed too but when you look at the big picture they got plenty of guys now on this roster at running back and offensive line to create a very good run game now it's up to them the coaches let's build the scheme pick the best players cut the rest and let's move on..
As far as wide receiver goes yes they're gonna have to get someone apparently that plan in the draft didn't work and there's guys out there like Keenan Allen and Amari Cooper that can make a trade for a guy like Pickens there's gonna be play teams right now that they're looking at what they did in a draft and they're gonna have too many players at wide receiver and they're gonna want to make a move..

 

[Stsinaz12]

We had as good of draft as we can hope for in our circumstances.

The problem isn't the draft, its our owner being cheap once again in FA. Last year, he was too cheap or we would have a RB. This year, he was too cheap or we would have a WR. In consecutive years, he has destroyed this team as those positions would not be a concern if he had done anything in FA. We need to stop fighting each other as much and know Jerry is the cause for everything. His son is just as bad as him, just a worse snake oil salesman.

We would have needed over 20 picks to actually fill most our holes, and that might've just helped. This team will not win anything as long as they are this cheap and will not be active management at all. Its crazy to try to trade instead of getting a player in free agency, only desperate teams do that.

Actually getting all those OL in FA only to draft one in the first round. Jerry was a guard himself, he must have dreams at night about them. A balanced roster with an aggressive GM wins championships. We definitely don't have that.

Well its Stephen BUT its crazy how nany 4th and 5th rd rb’s have been getting the majority of the snaps on the past 15 sb teams. Gotta get a WR and I think its coop allen sutton pickens plus gilly.

 

[DallasEast]

We need to stop fighting each other as much and know Jerry is the cause for everything.

^ Not everything but this nonetheless. Jerry Jones remains the one, constant, unchanging variable concerning the franchise's front office and its decisions over the decades.

 

[tunahelper]

They aren't done.

We are done winning SB's.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Well its Stephen BUT its crazy how nany 4th and 5th rd rb’s have been getting the majority of the snaps on the past 15 sb teams. Gotta get a WR and I think its coop allen sutton pickens plus gilly.

Yeah we got Mingo for our 4th this year, Are You Not Entertained?!?

 

[DuncanIso]

We had as good of draft as we can hope for in our circumstances.

The problem isn't the draft, its our owner being cheap once again in FA. Last year, he was too cheap or we would have a RB. This year, he was too cheap or we would have a WR. In consecutive years, he has destroyed this team as those positions would not be a concern if he had done anything in FA. We need to stop fighting each other as much and know Jerry is the cause for everything. His son is just as bad as him, just a worse snake oil salesman.

We would have needed over 20 picks to actually fill most our holes, and that might've just helped. This team will not win anything as long as they are this cheap and will not be active management at all. Its crazy to try to trade instead of getting a player in free agency, only desperate teams do that.

Actually getting all those OL in FA only to draft one in the first round. Jerry was a guard himself, he must have dreams at night about them. A balanced roster with an aggressive GM wins championships. We definitely don't have that.

Salary cap.

We are maxed out on the Cap credit card.

Our QB1 is due to earn 400M, yes 400 Million, from his time in Dallas.

That’s where the cap money went.

Teams have to spend 90 percent of the cap, per the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Thats why we have scrub QB2/QB3

Only so much cap $$$

 

[fivetwos]

All the good FAs are gone by the time the draft gets here. If you fill the holes with actual good FAs then you can go into the draft with total BPA freedom and with a much better team. You can't just say that a player in the draft will be there when you pick, its unpredictable. A FA target for need is the only way to go. At least that's what winning teams do, and winning costs money.

Jerry on the other hand just skips FA entirely except for some cheap JAGs. Then he has to draft for needs as he has too many holes. Every player we draft is a need based player, including this most recent draft. For instance, Taco, Mazi, and Guyton you mentioned were need based picks, they were definitely not BPA. If he actually planned ahead, there is alot of players we wouldn't even have right now. It is a luxury to have some of those holes filled with good players so you truly can go BPA in the draft, which I prefer.

Don't drink the JerryJuice that comes out of his mouth, but if you do i got some bench front property in Kansas I can sell you.....

It was clear that there were way more holes than draft picks, and rookies shouldn’t be counted on for the most part anyway….not to the degree that this team does anyway….

As far as a plan….once again they are ALL over the map. A few months ago Jerry says he wouldn’t have signed Prescott if it wasn’t about winning NOW, then for the first time he talks about 2-3 years from now.

Bottom line is for whatever reason they allowed the roster to deteriorate to where one draft wasn’t going to fix it.

Not using free agency when everyone else does is putting yourself at a serious disadvantage, while these two think they are outsmarting the rest of the league.

This “character” crap is gonna go out the window before long. They have no identity, no real organizational plan. Their moves and statements conflict each other quite often.

Too many cooks on the kitchen…and not one of them is any good at it.

 

[Shannon1]

Salary cap.

We are maxed out on the Cap credit card.

Our QB1 is due to earn 400M, yes 400 Million, from his time in Dallas.

That’s where the cap money went.

Teams have to spend 90 percent of the cap, per the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Thats why we have scrub QB2/QB3

Only so much cap $$$

We have 34 million in cap space now

 

[NotForLong]

The problem with the constant crying about not drafting a WR or RB is the misconception that the Cowboys would be competitive this year with either one

In a rebuild you take Best Player Available. Until Dak is gone we are just building for the future