The real problem with WR & RB

[Deep_Freeze]

We had as good of draft as we can hope for in our circumstances.

The problem isn't the draft, its our owner being cheap once again in FA. Last year, he was too cheap or we would have a RB. This year, he was too cheap or we would have a WR. In consecutive years, he has destroyed this team as those positions would not be a concern if he had done anything in FA. We need to stop fighting each other as much and know Jerry is the cause for everything. His son is just as bad as him, just a worse snake oil salesman.

We would have needed over 20 picks to actually fill most our holes, and that might've just helped. This team will not win anything as long as they are this cheap and will not be active management at all. Its crazy to try to trade instead of getting a player in free agency, only desperate teams do that.

Actually getting all those OL in FA only to draft one in the first round. Jerry was a guard himself, he must have dreams at night about them. A balanced roster with an aggressive GM wins championships. We definitely don't have that.

 

[DandyDon52]

Welcome to jerrys circus !!
We all know this, but what can we actually do about it lol

 

[rambo2]

We had as good of draft as we can hope for in our circumstances.

The problem isn't the draft, its our owner being cheap once again in FA. Last year, he was too cheap or we would have a RB. This year, he was too cheap or we would have a WR. In consecutive years, he has destroyed this team as those positions would not be a concern if he had done anything in FA. We need to stop fighting each other as much and know Jerry is the cause for everything. His son is just as bad as him, just a worse snake oil salesman.

We would have needed over 20 picks to actually fill most our holes, and that might've just helped. This team will not win anything as long as they are this cheap and will not be active management at all. Its crazy to try to trade instead of getting a player in free agency, only desperate teams do that.

Actually getting all those OL in FA only to draft one in the first round. Jerry was a guard himself, he must have dreams at night about them. A balanced roster with an aggressive GM wins championships. We definitely don't have that.

They aren't done.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

They aren't done.

Jerry will promise something, and either not do it or do not enough. I've seen all 30 years of it.

If he makes a trade it will cost him draft picks, which would dig into his build through the draft policy as he would be losing picks. You only make a trade if you think you can win it all. There is no trade that would make us win a ring this year, so there is no reason to make one.....unless you think we can get Mahomes

But if he actually wanted FAs that were not JAGs, he wouldn't give up any picks.....but he will have to pay money like he did 30 years ago. Heck we would have DHenry right now and not be worried about RB. Now he is too cheap and lazy to do that at the appropriate time for the team. I think he is so out of touch that it will get worse. He's not trying to win, and I believe that has everything to do with his cheap idiot son who is only worried about his inheritance instead of winning.

Bottomline, Jerry wants to win it his way, and now thats by paying Dak the most money in history, CD, and Micah. Everyone else he wants to give a bag of chips and dip with a minimum contract and they better enjoy it.

 

[CowboyoWales]

The problem isn't the draft, its our owner being cheap once again in FA. Last year, he was too cheap or we would have a RB.

What Jerry WILL NEVER DO, is sign a FA, when his advisors are saying 'we are high on XYZ in the draft'. Yes it's cheap, but when we dont follow the board (because we'd just spent on a FA), we start drafting for need ....and get TACO, MAZI, GUYTON (whom I havent totally given up on).

This year, he was too cheap or we would have a WR. In consecutive years, he has destroyed this team as those positions would not be a concern if he had done anything in FA.

So, if you read the room, we were high on TMAC and had very few 1st Rd grades. If we'd signed a FA and TMAC was there at 12 (which probably would of been our highest ranked player) we would of doubled up (over compensated resources).
At the moment, Jerry has done well in the off-season, now is the time to find an experienced WR2 from the post draft cuts.

 

[big dog cowboy]

This team will not win anything

They are winning at Forbes.

That is priority #1 for the Jones clan.

 

[CCBoy]

They seem to be ordering a lot of plexaderm.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

What Jerry WILL NEVER DO, is sign a FA, when his advisors are saying 'we are high on XYZ in the draft'. Yes it's cheap, but when we dont follow the board (because we'd just spent on a FA), we start drafting for need ....and get TACO, MAZI, GUYTON (whom I havent totally given up on).


So, if you read the room, we were high on TMAC and had very few 1st Rd grades. If we'd signed a FA and TMAC was there at 12 (which probably would of been our highest ranked player) we would of doubled up (over compensated resources).
At the moment, Jerry has done well in the off-season, now is the time to find an experienced WR2 from the post draft cuts.

All the good FAs are gone by the time the draft gets here. If you fill the holes with actual good FAs then you can go into the draft with total BPA freedom and with a much better team. You can't just say that a player in the draft will be there when you pick, its unpredictable. A FA target for need is the only way to go. At least that's what winning teams do, and winning costs money.

Jerry on the other hand just skips FA entirely except for some cheap JAGs. Then he has to draft for needs as he has too many holes. Every player we draft is a need based player, including this most recent draft. For instance, Taco, Mazi, and Guyton you mentioned were need based picks, they were definitely not BPA. If he actually planned ahead, there is alot of players we wouldn't even have right now. It is a luxury to have some of those holes filled with good players so you truly can go BPA in the draft, which I prefer.

Don't drink the JerryJuice that comes out of his mouth, but if you do i got some bench front property in Kansas I can sell you.....

 

[CowboyoWales]

All the good FAs are gone by the time the draft gets here. If you fill the holes with actual good FAs then you can go into the draft with total BPA freedom and with a much better team.

No, the idea of signing another top level WR (to compliment the top paid CeeDee) and then having TMAC as BPA.... isn't the way to proceed....when we aren't competing in 2025 (and have holes to fill).

Then he has to draft for needs as he has too many holes. Every player we draft is a need based player, including this most recent draft. For instance, Taco, Mazi, and Guyton you mentioned were need based picks, they were definitely not BPA. If he actually planned ahead, there is alot of players we wouldn't even have right now. It is a luxury to have some of those holes filled with good players so you truly can go BPA in the draft, which I prefer.

You're confusing yourself, we did draft BPA.
This draft is nothing like either 2023 (which for Jerry was All-In.... resolving the issues of CB = Gilmore, and WR2 = Cooks and then drafting for need = run defense= Mazi).
2024, again need based, Tyron and Biadascz's replacements.
2025, they did the right thing.....our Board indicated TMAC was the pick.

Jerry's cheap, wow, stop the press, but signing another expensive piece to accompany the $90m+ on QB and a WR2, when we"ve probably got a couple of WR's high on your board isn't going to happen (ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR, WHERE WE'VE ALL BAR MAILED IN SEASON).

 

[JW82]

We had as good of draft as we can hope for in our circumstances.

The problem isn't the draft, its our owner being cheap once again in FA. Last year, he was too cheap or we would have a RB. This year, he was too cheap or we would have a WR. In consecutive years, he has destroyed this team as those positions would not be a concern if he had done anything in FA. We need to stop fighting each other as much and know Jerry is the cause for everything. His son is just as bad as him, just a worse snake oil salesman.

We would have needed over 20 picks to actually fill most our holes, and that might've just helped. This team will not win anything as long as they are this cheap and will not be active management at all. Its crazy to try to trade instead of getting a player in free agency, only desperate teams do that.

Actually getting all those OL in FA only to draft one in the first round. Jerry was a guard himself, he must have dreams at night about them. A balanced roster with an aggressive GM wins championships. We definitely don't have that.

Yup. How good does this roster look right now, if you had devonte adams or traded for metcalf. Or even Kupp. I do believe they will make a trade for wr2 but as of today, our top need entering the offseason is still our top need.

My theory on them Bringing in all those guards but no tackles is, they see their plan B if Guyton fails is Tyler smith moving to LT and back filling his spot with one of the 25 guards they brought in.

 

[MikeT22]

They aren't done.

Which ‘26 draft pick are we going to trade and for who? Or are you relying on other UDFA’s, UFL, June 1st and camp cuts?