Mike Florio tough on Cowboys

KingCorcoran said:
It wasn’t all Jerry making the Cowboys valuable. The entire league has enjoyed tremendous financial success collectively. What is remarkable is maintaining the team’s popularity while having little on field success in the contemporary NFL.
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Makes me wonder when we'll stop getting all those prime time games...
 
dupree89 said:
Mike isnt a fan of Mr Jerry Jones

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...s-was-working-on-its-been-crickets-ever-since
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He’s certainly tough on Jerry Jones. And deservedly so. He’s witnessed the snake oil salesman in action enough times to see the game.

Win or lose, try to keep you and your team relevant.

And based on the Cowboys still being relevant having not won a Championship in 30 years shows that the salesman still has the capability.

But that doesn’t mean Florio’s assessment isn’t accurate. It is.
 
Whyjerry said:
Thanks Jerry. Pay your child support.
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That guy should find a new team if he actually thinks JJ 'destroyed the Dallas Cowboys'. By what metric? Certainly not value or team worth. By SB wins? How about blaming the refs in GB? Or Patrick Crayton in NY for dropping a 3rd down pass or stopping his route with aperfect pass in the air to win it all?

List goes on and on. JJ 'destroyed DC'? Kiss my arse with that trype!!
 
TwentyOne said:
what exactly has he "accomplished" other than hoarding some money? The latter is not exactly something you can be proud of or brag about.

So where are the accomplishments?

Dont start with those 3 SB wins. The last 30 years showed that he for sure wasnt the reason for those.
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Couple things - and again, i am not a Jerry Jones fan or defender but if were talking about an accomplished human being the accolades are numerous for him

Building the brand of the cowboys to what it is now from where it was in the late 1980s is incredible. Yes it was a good brand in the 70s but by the time he took over and what it is now are two very different brands. From a marketing POV he has accomplished something very special in terms of building the strongest sports brand in the world

Go and do some research on his philtantophic activities - they have donated billions of dollars to numerous philanthropies and continue to do so - sure its easy to donate when you are worth billions but he and his wife continue to be philanthropically focused as well.

And the money thing - building the type of generational wealth that he has is a massive accomplishment - it has changed the Jones familly and every member that will be born for 100's of years. I wish i could do that for my family and bet you do too.


I am going to surmise that nothing i could write here is going to make you think of him as accomplished so its not even worth debating honestly. I wish he would fade away and hire a GM and let this team succeed as much as the next fan but i still recognize he is very successful and accomplished.
 
jazzcat22 said:
Jerry knows, he just does not apply it.
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What on earth?

If he does not apply it how do you know he has it? Just because? Stephen must have it too?

Heck, don't you yourself have a longer tenure of following and analyzing the Cowboys and football in general than Jerry does?
 
No need to defend Jerry or trash Florio. The latter is just doing his part of the job.

Why does anyone think Jerry drags his feet on these contracts? Because he is dumb?

NO…..because he wants the ATTENTION.

Why did Diggs and Steele get done so easily? Because no one would make a thing of it if it didn’t. Jerry doesn’t care if he is getting trashed, just as long as they are talking. Wouldn’t shock me to learn Jerry asked Florio to mention it.

“I’d rather pay more and get it right than pay less and get it wrong,” absolutely translates to ‘Im getting hosed either way and that’s not happening without it being a national topic and me getting a ton of camera time out of it.’

It’s not about football in Dallas and that’s not news to anyone reading this.
 
Jipper said:
Meh, easy to pile on Jones at this point...he's near the end and has accomplished more in this world than anyone on this site and more than 99.9% of humanity.

I am anti Jerry but I respect his accomplishments...
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Woah! When did Jerry cure cancer? Jerry will be a footnote in history. Being rich and owning a football team is about as meaningful an accomplishment as launching a car into space. Good for Jerry and his ilk, irrelevant in the grand scheme of world history.
 
mote said:
Woah! When did Jerry cure cancer? Jerry will be a footnote in history. Being rich and owning a football team is about as meaningful an accomplishment as launching a car into space. Good for Jerry and his ilk, irrelevant in the grand scheme of world history.
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you guys keep trying to call it what ever you want, but the man took a 140MM asset and turned it into a 10B one with world recognition and from a personal accomplishment POV thats more than anyone on this site ever will even sniff...but hey just keep telling yourself hes just a rich football team owner....how do you think he got rich?

He built a company (Jones oil and land lease) then sold it for 175MM - even that in its self is a massive accomplishment, let alone what he did with the cowboys after he reinvested those dollars.


its ok to not like Jerry - i don't like him and i want him to go away but the man is damn successful and accomplished.
 
Jipper said:
you guys keep trying to call it what ever you want, but the man took a 140MM asset and turned it into a 10B one with world recognition and from a personal accomplishment POV thats more than anyone on this site ever will even sniff...but hey just keep telling yourself hes just a rich football team owner....how do you think he got rich?

He built a company (Jones oil and land lease) then sold it for 175MM - even that in its self is a massive accomplishment, let alone what he did with the cowboys after he reinvested those dollars.


its ok to not like Jerry - i don't like him and i want him to go away but the man is damn successful and accomplished.
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Do you know who owned the NY Yankees in the 1920s? Yeah, I had to look that one up too. Jones being successful is one thing, and he's become famous at the same time (and relishes the fame, clearly). But don't confuse fame and fortune, which are transient, with a "historical accomplishment". Jonas Salk he is not.
 
mote said:
Do you know who owned the NY Yankees in the 1920s? Yeah, I had to look that one up too. Jones being successful is one thing, and he's become famous at the same time (and relishes the fame, clearly). But don't confuse fame and fortune, which are transient, with a "historical accomplishment". Jonas Salk he is not.
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like i said in a previous post there is nothing i can write that would make those of you that share your POV, that Jerry is an extremely accomplished individual - you do realize that he wasn't given fame and fortune right? You do realize the hard work and risks that it took him to get there right?

Of course you dont, you are blind to your hatred of him to even be able to acknowledge the massive personal accomplishment and achievement he has made - and as i have said many times before i am not a jerry supporter but denying hes incredibly successful and accomplished is ludicrous
 
jazzcat22 said:
He has been around football his entire life, and has played for a championship college team. He has owned the Cowboys since 1989. Won 3 SB's inspire of the haters saying it was all Jimmy.
It is safe to say he knows football.

He does actually know much more about football than most on here posting how much they think they know.
No he is not a football genius, but he knows more than most on here.
I am not by any means defending him. Just using common sense and logic. This FO has failed us as fans the past 20 years.
Not 30 years. Did anyone truly think the team was not going to have down years after the triplets were gone. Did anyone expect deep playoff runs from say 2000 to 2006.

Fans are blinded by their hate and / or their homerism. And it shows.

It took the Hunts 50 years to get back to a SB. Apparently they knew nothing about football either. Where is the outrage there, just swept under the rug, since it does not fit a fans narrative. Until a guy named Mahomes came along they sucked at ownership from what fans are applying to Jerry.
Jerry has 20 more years to find his Mahomes if you compare it that way. :lmao:
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Saying Jerry is a football man because he played college football and has been around it all his life is like having a 1924 Model T in my driveway and saying “I have a great classic car in my driveway.” Which doesn’t make it a great car to drive NOW.

I’ve known lots of people who have a law degree and spent decades in courtrooms. Doesn’t mean they are a great lawyer. Experience in and of itself does not guarantee greatness.

Jerry is a great businessman who BOUGHT an NFL team. His great skill is business and sales, not football. His purchase of the team guaranteed he and his kids are “football people”. There is not another team in the NFL that would hire Jerry or Stephen as their GM.
 
5Stars said:
True, and the hell out of the Cowboy fans.

SuperBowl? Not really.
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of course, a long the way he accumulated 3 Lombardi's and a yellow jacket, a GM of the year and an Owner of the year award. but because of all of this, cowboy's fans are subject to disappointment for the past 30 years and counting. JJ has succeeded more than nearly all owners (maybe Kraft and couple of others can boast as much he can)....but the fans, we onky have a 5-year period to cling to over the last 37 years.
 
What functionally is the difference between not knowing football and knowing football but not applying it in any way?
 
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