The thing is, when "the same people" (i.e. the haters) do their thing and then another set of the "same people" (i.e you and a few others) do their thing and yet another set of the "same people" (i.e. me) does their thing it is nothing more than a merry go round of the same people doing their thing over and over and over. Every group just feeds the other group and the beat goes on and on.
If you think about it, only one group of those three is actually on point as to the purpose of this forum, to talk Cowboys. That group being the haters. Your criticism of them has nothing to do with the topic of this forum and my criticism of you has nothing to do with the topic of the forum. No matter what you and I think of their thoughts the bottom line is you and I are the ones operating outside the lines, not them.
Nothing here gets old to me, at least to the point of bothering me. It's my choice to let the crap that someone I have no control over says in a forum that I have no control over, bother me. It seems foolish to me to let that get to me. I do have a self centered habit of calling out those that do try and control the "negativity" with their own brand of negativity. It comes across as bullying and hypocritical and if there is anything that does get to me it's bullies and hypocrites. Now that is not directed squarely at you. I'm not naming names but I'm sure anyone still reading this knows the names.
Neither you nor I nor anyone else is going to change anyone's behavior here (except for the mods lol). Constantly bickering over it only invites more of it and makes it stronger. Perfect example in this thread when some knucklehead literally initiated a response by someone he didn't want to see a response from. Literally called the "hater" out to post in a thread he wasn't posting in. That's the point. At some point we have to ask ourselves, are our expressions of righteous indignation having a positive or negative affect on what we would like to see happen? An even better question would be for us to be truly honest with ourselves and ask ourselves what our true motivations are when we start cackling about others' behavior.
Let's be real. Nobody here is changing anybody here so maybe the answer is for both of us (and all the other whiners) to stop trying. The example has already been set for us by the majority of members who just ignore this crap and keep it football, so we know it can be done. I'll add them in as the fourth group. Let's call them the smart ones.
And finally, and for the record. I would LOVE to sit around the firepit and shoot the bull with anyone here. You and some others that I occasionally go back and forth with would be at the top of the list. I bet we'd have a blast. I vote we do it at Rocky's place in Hawaii.