Size comparison - Jayden Blue vs. historic RBs

[Bates]

Yes ,Smh. I'm talking 2024-25. I've watched a ton of Texas games. Blue was used sparingly because they had Wisener, more of a between the tackles RB, bigger, more of a power guy, a better pass pro guy. Blue still needs to develop those type of things. Brooks can't even stay healthy or get on a field. Lol. Blue could have handled more carries and many Texas fans thought he should have been getting more reps.

I think you are confusing rbs. CJ Baxter and Christian clark were going to be the inside zone rbs this last year until they both got hurt in fall camp. They are each around 220. Sark prefers inside zone. Texas moved to more outside zone because wisner is about the same size as blue (6’ 200# according to Texas - we know blue is actually 5’9 lol and wisner doesn’t look any taller). Couple of things hurt blue during the first half of the season - fumbled twice against Mississippi state and had an ankle injury. Sark played very conservative last year knowing they could make the playoffs if they didn’t beat themselves (he also saw Quinn regressed after his injury). Best way to beat yourself is to put the ball on the ground. So, sark was cautious with blue and he knew wisner wouldn’t fumble and he didn’t fumble once.

I love the blue addition because there is a ton of potential. I know he can run the ball both inside and outside and is a weapon receiving. Gives us a home run potential at any time. But he has to do the other things a rb does to see the field regularly. I think he will.

 

[gimmesix]

Yes ,Smh. I'm talking 2024-25. I've watched a ton of Texas games. Blue was used sparingly because they had Wisener, more of a between the tackles RB, bigger, more of a power guy, a better pass pro guy. Blue still needs to develop those type of things. Brooks can't even stay healthy or get on a field. Lol. Blue could have handled more carries and many Texas fans thought he should have been getting more reps.

It is interesting that Blue may have the better pro career because Brooks can't get healthy.

I wanted to take a chance on Brooks. Now I'm glad we didn't.

 

[Bates]

He will be a weapon. A glorified Tavon Austin, except he will be coming out of the backfield. All will depend on how Dak is able to utilize him. Thus far Dak struggles with hitting RB in stride or placing the ball in the opportune place. Sometimes by the time Dak checks down to the RB he is already covered

If Schottenheimer can teach Dak, Blue should be a valuable weapon. If not Blue will be pedestrian and there will ne some on here calling him a bust and a hindrance to Dak.

Yes. Dak has got to hit him upfield in stride and he’ll get good yards out of some of those safety valve plays.

 

[Diehardblues]

I believe Emmitt was 5-9, 209 when he was drafted.
Give Blue a year in the weight room. He can bulk up some muscle, and do it without losing any speed.
Maybe add 8 to 10 pounds.

I’m curious . Has the Cowboys FO or coaching staff stated Blue is expected to be our starting RB? Or are fans just assuming he will be ?

I’m thinking and hoping we will probably be more of a RB by Committee. And Blue will be a major part of that.

 

[blueblood70]

One of the first things I heard about Jayden Blue is that he is too small to be a RB1. Blue is 5’9” tall (same height as Emmitt Smith), and 196 lbs. (4 lbs heavier than Tony Dorsett. So, if Blue cannot handle being RB1, it really isn’t his size that is the issue.

Blue didn’t have the college production of either Smith or Dorsett, and there isn’t much evidence from his college tape that he has the vision of either of those HOF players. Who knows if Blue knows how to pick up a blitzing LB, or help the tackle by chip blocking a DE on the way to the flat?

There are plenty of reasons you might choose to justify a belief that Blue is not a RB1, or a future HOF player. But size isn’t one of them. Barry Sanders was 5’8”, while other HOF backs were larger.

I’m interested in how Blue will perform. I have zero concern about his size.

Well you can just stay in today's game he's the exact height weight and speed as Jamir Gibbs... Thing is he's never been a three down back he's not a power back he's not going to be overused you're going to take away his best qualities you should use him like Tony Pollard you know the early years before he got injured yes he can play running back he's not a gadget player you can use him between the tackles but you just don't want to go to that well too often...

I'm sure this year they're gonna use them more as a change of pace back use them like Tony Pollard not for The Dirty yards not for short yardage obvious rundowns they're not gonna use them a lot they'll probably surprise teams when they decide to do that but I think next offseason if he doesn't have a fumbling problem they'll have him gain five or 10 pounds of muscle and start getting him used to more pounding but you just can't do to him what we did with Tony Pollard and try to make him his franchise tag year a 3 down running back and he wore down. Tony still a good back but he is not the same dynamic back that he was when he was just utilized like 5050 with a bigger back that does The Dirty word with the Titans he's doing well but he still don't look as dynamic as he used to and I don't think as much to do with the injury as much as he's being worn down you take some of his speed and burst away by wearing his legs out all game...

 

[blueblood70]

It is interesting that Blue may have the better pro career because Brooks can't get healthy.

I wanted to take a chance on Brooks. Now I'm glad we didn't.

You mean you're glad that the Cowboys didn't pick up an injured running back and that Carolina did there's no I or we in this LOL just because you wanted him nobody wants someone that's that injured whatever it was it's kind of like Trayvon Biggs they need to be concerned about why the ACL is not holding onto the bone.

Most players get over acls very fast they can be back at 9 to 12 months at the most and be 100% ready to go there are outliers and anomalies for sure so I'm not even worried about rebel but when you have someone like Trayvon Diggs have the same ACL where it attaches to the bone not hold and now they're going to have to do it again that's a problem.. Think they call it micro fracture surgery anymore, but they have to do something similar to make the ACL stay attached so that he's not tearing his ACO the ACL is not holding to the bone or at least the cadaver or whatever they use didn't and I think that happened to Brooks as well...

Of course, I think blue if he's healthy you'll probably have a better career because it'll probably be another year before we even see Brooks have even a normal amount of reps they they're going to be even more cautious they may sit in all year then they just draft another running back...? Rico and Entienne added..

That pretty much tells me all I need to know they may sit in this entire year...

 

[Bates]

One of the downsides I saw some people talk about with Jeanty was he got overused. There's no way that we can predict how someone's career going to go with the amount of carries they had while in college.

Far we know Jeanty could start to wear down while others (IE Blue) could benefit from not getting 25 + carries a game.

Blue also did not play his senior year in high school. Hasn’t had a whole lot of game reps the last 4 years. That’s good for us. I think he’s an ascending player who will get better the more game reps he gets.

 

[jazzcat22]

I’m curious . Has the Cowboys FO or coaching staff stated Blue is expected to be our starting RB? Or are fans just assuming he will be ?

I’m thinking and hoping we will probably be more of a RB by Committee. And Blue will be a major part of that.

Just fans assuming for now. I made a post in another thread. It is wide open for RB1, or as you say, could be RBBC. Possibly until one emerges as RB1 during the regular season, if none can, or will be determined in TC.

No one in the FO has made such a comment that I know of.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Yes ,Smh. I'm talking 2024-25. I've watched a ton of Texas games. Blue was used sparingly because they had Wisener, more of a between the tackles RB, bigger, more of a power guy, a better pass pro guy. Blue still needs to develop those type of things. Brooks can't even stay healthy or get on a field. Lol. Blue could have handled more carries and many Texas fans thought he should have been getting more reps.

lol?

You’re not making any sense.

You said “(Sark) puts a lot on seniority” insinuating Blue would have started if he had seniority.

He did.

Blue was a junior last year and Wisner was a sophomore that started over him so how does your theory workout?

 

[Diehardblues]

Just fans assuming for now. I made a post in another thread. It is wide open for RB1, or as you say, could be RBBC. Possibly until one emerges as RB1 during the regular season, if none can, or will be determined in TC.

No one in the FO has made such a comment that I know of.

Yea , that’s what I thought. I really don’t see a NFL caliber starting RB on our roster. And RB by Committee might not be a bad thing . Blue could still be a major contributor. Nothing wrong with that scenario.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

One of the first things I heard about Jayden Blue is that he is too small to be a RB1. Blue is 5’9” tall (same height as Emmitt Smith), and 196 lbs. (4 lbs heavier than Tony Dorsett. So, if Blue cannot handle being RB1, it really isn’t his size that is the issue.

Blue didn’t have the college production of either Smith or Dorsett, and there isn’t much evidence from his college tape that he has the vision of either of those HOF players. Who knows if Blue knows how to pick up a blitzing LB, or help the tackle by chip blocking a DE on the way to the flat?

There are plenty of reasons you might choose to justify a belief that Blue is not a RB1, or a future HOF player. But size isn’t one of them. Barry Sanders was 5’8”, while other HOF backs were larger.

I’m interested in how Blue will perform. I have zero concern about his size.

you can't compare size in different eras...what was the size of OL men, DL men and LBs back then compared to today?

by today's standards he is smaller RB. no ifs buts or thens. doesn't mean he can't be good. its just that he is not a big back.

 

[deerhunter11]

We all want to see the Cowboys have more success and win another SB. Being optimistic is fine but it’s more of a state of mind than based on recent history, current trends and actions taken along with status of leadership and culture.

But there is always hope it will turn. And once it begins more will be more optimistic . After decades of disappointment and frustration it’s natural for most fans to be skeptical.

As fans we don’t have to be wide eyed and bushy tailed like the players do. They need to believe . We can wait and see while rooting our team on .

Believe me I totally understand the disappointment because we the fans have all felt it over the years.Things seem to be better and I hope this is the start of better times in big D.

 

[blueblood70]

Blue also did not play his senior year in high school. Hasn’t had a whole lot of game reps the last 4 years. That’s good for us. I think he’s an ascending player who will get better the more game reps he gets.

 

[J12B]

One of the first things I heard about Jayden Blue is that he is too small to be a RB1. Blue is 5’9” tall (same height as Emmitt Smith), and 196 lbs. (4 lbs heavier than Tony Dorsett. So, if Blue cannot handle being RB1, it really isn’t his size that is the issue.

Blue didn’t have the college production of either Smith or Dorsett, and there isn’t much evidence from his college tape that he has the vision of either of those HOF players. Who knows if Blue knows how to pick up a blitzing LB, or help the tackle by chip blocking a DE on the way to the flat?

There are plenty of reasons you might choose to justify a belief that Blue is not a RB1, or a future HOF player. But size isn’t one of them. Barry Sanders was 5’8”, while other HOF backs were larger.

I’m interested in how Blue will perform. I have zero concern about his size.

I would bet the average Defensive player was 15 to 20 points lighter compared to the average Defensive player today.

 

[deerhunter11]

I think you are confusing rbs. CJ Baxter and Christian clark were going to be the inside zone rbs this last year until they both got hurt in fall camp. They are each around 220. Sark prefers inside zone. Texas moved to more outside zone because wisner is about the same size as blue (6’ 200# according to Texas - we know blue is actually 5’9 lol and wisner doesn’t look any taller). Couple of things hurt blue during the first half of the season - fumbled twice against Mississippi state and had an ankle injury. Sark played very conservative last year knowing they could make the playoffs if they didn’t beat themselves (he also saw Quinn regressed after his injury). Best way to beat yourself is to put the ball on the ground. So, sark was cautious with blue and he knew wisner wouldn’t fumble and he didn’t fumble once.

I love the blue addition because there is a ton of potential. I know he can run the ball both inside and outside and is a weapon receiving. Gives us a home run potential at any time. But he has to do the other things a rb does to see the field regularly. I think he will.

Can't wait to see what Jaydon Blue can do in this offense, I expect teams will get a good view of the back of his jersey while they are trying to catch him.

 

[vlad]

Ppl said that about Pollard too, and he's decent size.

One of the first things I heard about Jayden Blue is that he is too small to be a RB1. Blue is 5’9” tall (same height as Emmitt Smith), and 196 lbs. (4 lbs heavier than Tony Dorsett. So, if Blue cannot handle being RB1, it really isn’t his size that is the issue.

Blue didn’t have the college production of either Smith or Dorsett, and there isn’t much evidence from his college tape that he has the vision of either of those HOF players. Who knows if Blue knows how to pick up a blitzing LB, or help the tackle by chip blocking a DE on the way to the flat?

There are plenty of reasons you might choose to justify a belief that Blue is not a RB1, or a future HOF player. But size isn’t one of them. Barry Sanders was 5’8”, while other HOF backs were larger.

I’m interested in how Blue will perform. I have zero concern about his size.

I assume if he solves his fumbling issue if we remove all the bad habits of Solari that he seemed to cause regression on we'll be fine. I do wish they had him and Rico together - i'd be a-ok with that.

 

[CoachD]

Just throwing this out there..........by mid-season Fred Mafah will be the Cowboys starting running back.

 

[MissionCoach]

Blue has blazing speed, and has shown he has good receiving skills out of the backfield. Some experts say he is a cheap version of Gibbs in Detroit. I am very hopeful he can contribute, excited to see what he can do, and thrilled we got him on the cheap in the 5th round.

 

[Bamx]

Blue has blazing speed, and has shown he has good receiving skills out of the backfield. Some experts say he is a cheap version of Gibbs in Detroit. I am very hopeful he can contribute, excited to see what he can do, and thrilled we got him on the cheap in the 5th round.

Gibbs was also a 1st round pick. If Blue can give around 50% of Gibbs production I would be happy.

 

[Diehardblues]

Believe me I totally understand the disappointment because we the fans have all felt it over the years.Things seem to be better and I hope this is the start of better times in big D.

I’m not sure we can begin to state things seem better until the results come in?

For me it’s about waiting to cheer after the results of the play not before we snap the ball.

But I get fans wanting to be more optimistic. That’s fine but to label things are better most will need to see the results come in.