Are we really better off at RB than last year?

The fact that we still haven't reached a consensus on who will be our #1 RB is troubling. It kind of puts a damper on what we accomplished in the off season.
 
The fact that we still haven't reached a consensus on who will be our #1 RB is troubling. It kind of puts a damper on what we accomplished in the off season.
What did we do? Did I miss something?

We got a decent deal on a top 15 DT.
We signed 3 jags to play guard then drafted a guard at 12.
We brought in a 1st round bust at DE, signed a pass rush only DE, signed Wheat and then spent a 2nd round pick on yet another DE.
We added a journeyman at DT and two late round DT
We added two jag LBs
We added two jag RBs and two late round guys
We added a one year rental head case WR that no one wanted

What am I missing? Oh yeah, we resigned another waste of a roster spot in Goodwin.

The Eagles are laughing at us. The Redmanders are laughing at us. Hell, the Giants are laughing at us.

Maybe ya'll dont mind being laughed at, but it pisses me off. And all it took was signing one WR for you all to go into sheep mode again.

SMH
 
Tbh I think they kinda threw a bunch of darts at the board to see which ones stick. Lots of potential in the backfield. If Williams AND Sanders return to form, that alone makes for a dynamic duo with Blue taking the top off a defense occasionally.

That is probably asking for alot. If one of the two can return to form, we still have a quality back to split time with Blue/Mafia/whoever. This would be at least equivalent to last year's attack. With the current OL and receiver corps, the offense should be in good shape.

Looking at the odds, I think this is the most likely result. They brought in vets that have proven they can play. They bought low hoping at least one of them can play in better offensive circumstances than what they had with their previous teams. Both are another year removed from injury. Maybe they never return to peak form, but 75-85% of prime from those guys should be enough to move the offense.

If both of those guys struggle, I think that is when we need to reconsider the Hall trade, or exploring other options. I do like the potential of the young RBs, but going into the season with two bottom half draft picks, and a couple of washed up vets would be foolish. Not saying it couldn't work, but that's a helluva gamble when there is still cap space and resources available.

I wasn't sure that they were all that concerned about this upcoming season until they sent premium assets for a 1 year rental at receiver. That's what leads me to believe that a move will be made if the coaches aren't seeing the results they want early in camp. If we are playing for this year, there is no sense in holding onto extra cap money to roll over.
 
Prove it. Was helpbon the way 30 friggin years ago? Was it on the way 10 yrs ago? Last year?

Stop drinking the snake oil.
You desperately need to get with the present and put the past behind you. You're doing all that you can to ignore the fact that we had an offseason that changed this year's outlook drastically. The proof will likely come while you're still in denial of the truth. Things are changing for the better.

It's now past time to get current and abandon the past. This team will be on the upswing by so many real indications that you want to ignore. It's a realistic indication of what to expect this year, next year and beyond. The present is now, not behind. What you have is gutless grief and denial of reality.
 
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What did we do? Did I miss something?

We got a decent deal on a top 15 DT.
We signed 3 jags to play guard then drafted a guard at 12.
We brought in a 1st round bust at DE, signed a pass rush only DE, signed Wheat and then spent a 2nd round pick on yet another DE.
We added a journeyman at DT and two late round DT
We added two jag LBs
We added two jag RBs and two late round guys
We added a one year rental head case WR that no one wanted

What am I missing? Oh yeah, we resigned another waste of a roster spot in Goodwin.

The Eagles are laughing at us. The Redmanders are laughing at us. Hell, the Giants are laughing at us.

Maybe ya'll dont mind being laughed at, but it pisses me off. And all it took was signing one WR for you all to go into sheep mode again.

SMH
I don't watch college football, so I'm not up on who is or isn't any good.

I have a problem drafting a guard at #12 just on principal. It doesn't help that reports I read say he isn't very good with his feet & has a problem with pulling & reaching the 2nd level. Maybe it's just a quirk with this particular draft that we picked him so soon. Usually we pick OT's & move them to guard.

The 2nd round DE sounds great with both his sack & TFL numbers last year. He sounds like a complete DE. His career numbers aren't as great, but hopefully it finally clicked.

Our 3rd rounder sounds like a difference maker pick. We just have to overlook that the same doctor said Jaylon Smith wasn't going to have any lingering issues.

I have no problem with prima donna players, especially at WR or CB. All the stories on him say he isn't a locker room cancer type & is well liked by his teammates.

We basically only had 3 reliably decent picks this draft.

I've just about given up on our FA choices.

But back to this particular thread: I don't like how uncertain everybody seems to be on our RB room.
 
I don't watch college football, so I'm not up on who is or isn't any good.

I have a problem drafting a guard at #12 just on principal. It doesn't help that reports I read say he isn't very good with his feet & has a problem with pulling & reaching the 2nd level. Maybe it's just a quirk with this particular draft that we picked him so soon. Usually we pick OT's & move them to guard.

The 2nd round DE sounds great with both his sack & TFL numbers last year. He sounds like a complete DE. His career numbers aren't as great, but hopefully it finally clicked.

Our 3rd rounder sounds like a difference maker pick. We just have to overlook that the same doctor said Jaylon Smith wasn't going to have any lingering issues.

I have no problem with prima donna players, especially at WR or CB. All the stories on him say he isn't a locker room cancer type & is well liked by his teammates.

We basically only had 3 reliably decent picks this draft.

I've just about given up on our FA choices.

But back to this particular thread: I don't like how uncertain everybody seems to be on our RB room.
You started off by admitting you don't know anything about college football and don't know who is any good or not. Then, you proceed to make unfounded ideas about our hopeless failures in the draft and otherwise.

Those who know about our recent acquisitions are filled with delight over the possibilities that lie ahead in the months to come. It will take time to prove it, if given a reasonable chance. Their talent is there and not imagined. Like all young players, it will take time for the proof to be seen.

Believe that those who know college football and know those who are capable or not are really very optimistic about our recent draft and the current acquisitions that we've acquired. There are actually valid reasons why they are thrilled about what lies ahead for them. That draft was one that was very exceptional in the opinions of many football savants who are in the know and well respected.

Cheer up, there's much more potential in those draft choices than you've chosen to believe. Give them a fighter's chance to prove themselves before casting them aside as unfit players. The Cowboys had an offseason that was very exceptional in their choices of promising talent. It's there to be admired by so many optimistic fans.
 
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You started off by admitting you don't know anything about college football and don't know who is any good or not. Then, you proceed to make unfounded ideas about our hopeless failures in the draft and otherwise. Those who know about our recent acquisitions are filled with delight over the possibilities that lie ahead in the months to come.

Believe that those who know college football and know those who are capable or not are really optimistic about our recent draft and the current acquisitions that we've acquired. Cheer up, there's much more potential in those draft choices than you've chosen to believe. Give them a chance to prove themselves before casting them aside as unfit players.
So sorry - I wasn't disappointed with our draft.
 
I think Dallas will be able to run the ball successfully because of the Oline , and Cee Dee and Pickens being on the field together.Teams won't be able to stack the box ,Dallas will probably spread teams out and be able to run it.I look for the Cowboys to run out of the I formation between guards and center early in the year until the line starts to gel.Dallas should be hard to stop in short yardage and goal line.
That would be something because the cowboys absolutely sucked in the Red Zone last year and also in the past.
 
So sorry - I wasn't disappointed with our draft.
So good to hear. Don't fall for the many critics who invade this website. Many are actually fans of other teams and take delight in finding fault with anybody and every player associated with the Dallas Cowboys. There are also extreme pessimists who can't get over this team's failures of the past.

There are also long-lasting veterans of this website who know better and offer far more realistic ideas than those who infest us with their hatred and cynicism. We'll be fine in the weeks and days to come.

LIke most teams, we have our ups and downs. We'll improve. Whether we make the playoffs or not remains to be seen, but many here expect better things to come. I see our talent improving.

Our offseason was exceptionally successful, when given a fair estimation of what to believe. We'll likely be better, despite having an especially tough schedule to overcome in 2025. The Cowboys are always exciting, win or lose. Unfortunately, the critics here are just hard to take when they wallow in their incessant misery. The optimists are a far happier crowd, for certain.
 
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So good to hear. Don't fall for the many critics who invade this website. Many are actually fans of other teams and take delight in finding fault with anybody and every player associated with the Dallas Cowboys. There are also extreme pessimists who can't get over this team's failures of the past.

There are also long-lasting veterans of this website who know better and offer far more realistic ideas than those who infest us with their hatred and cynicism. We'll be fine in the weeks and days to come.

LIke most teams, we have our ups and downs. We'll improve. Whether we make the playoffs or not remains to be seen, but many here expect better things to come. I see our talent improving.

Our offseason was exceptionally successful, when given a fair estimation of what to believe. We'll likely be better, despite having an especially tough schedule to overcome in 2025. The Cowboys are always exciting, win or lose. Unfortunately, the critics here are just hard to take when they wallow in their incessant misery. The optimists are a far happier crowd, for certain.
I definitely fall in the unabashedly "Homer" catagory. Still, until I see results on the field, I take most proclamations with a grain of salt.

BTW as far as our FA pick ups, I like that they decided to try out a bunch of 1st round talents. Wether or not they work out remains to be seen.
 
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I definitely fall in the unabashedly "Homer" catagory. Still, until I see results on the field, I take most proclamations with a grain of salt.
It's as well you should. I've been steadfastly remaining a fan since this team's inception in 1960. There have been times when I wanted to give up on them but just couldn't bring myself to do it. Coming here to discuss it usually provides impetus to stick around. Hang in there, my friend. It's a gas!
 
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I think Sanders is done. Would love to be proven wrong, though. I think he's this year's Zeke, but we won't be as driven to prove that he can still be a lead back.

I like that Williams has less wear and tear on him, but I don't know how much of a toll the injury took on what he had.

Blue definitely has potential, but so much of that is based on how fast he is. Speed isn't everything because the NFL has a lot of fast players. The questions he has to answer is how good is his vision to see where he needs to go, how good is his contact balance, his elusiveness, his ability to squeeze through small holes.
Very very true
 
I wasn't a huge fan of Dowdle and was fine letting him go. I was expecting we would be a little more aggressive in FA RB though. Last year there was veterans all over the place. Less so this offseason. Still with FA and a really deep RB class, I had bigger expectations.

I thought Zeke was done. Williams and Sanders haven't been much better the last two years though. At least, you can hope they will rebound. I never thought Zeke would. It is just tricky to be counting on either Williams or Sanders.

Blue is an interesting long range guy. If things work out, he could be a real option moving forward. I am just not sure it is this year. Tough to put your hopes with a guy with only a little over 1000 yards rushing in his college career and a guy who was beat out by a solid, not great back at Texas. One positive is he doesn't have a lot of tread on his tires, but I don't think you count on him to be a real factor to begin the year.
 
Seriously. So we need 3 1st round picks on the O Line. Plus a third.

Find 1 other team that has 3 first round picks there. Let alone 2 friggin 1st round guards.
Not sure how much more we can do there! Right? We need good scheme management now.
 

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