Tyler Booker received RG1 reps in practice

[Fla Cowpoke]

The tape shows a better than adequate pulling guard. Trust the tape over the combine. You will see him pulling and blowing up defenders and forget all those combine numbers. The game ain’t played on a track.

He also has long arms, which can make bench press difficult as well.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Travis Frederick claimed that Smith had benched between 600 and 700 lbs, which would be amazing given his long arms.

 

[Acceptablename]

The tape shows a better than adequate pulling guard. Trust the tape over the combine. You will see him pulling and blowing up defenders and forget all those combine numbers. The game ain’t played on a track.

Yap

 

[Teague31]

rumor has it Jalen Carter submitted his retirement paperwork to the league office

 

[Spottswoode]

I mean he should hafta earn it, no?

He will have to earn it. I doubt anyone on the team is up in arms about who is getting RG1 snaps in May. If I were the coaches, I would want to see as much as I could of Booker as he is the real unknown of the two. Both will get plenty of opportunities to shine.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Well when you win the position during draft day, what is the point of playing charades?

You tell me

 

[DuncanIso]

Last year with Guyton - had him work his way up

glad to see big Mike gone.

He had some strange ideas.

 

[speedkilz88]

Let's hope so. Tyler Booker is good at straight blocking if he gets his big hands on you and iron grips you. But if you ask him to move side-to-side often...or pull much, that's when the problems may start. He also bench pressed 225 pounds only 21 times at the Combine. That is very weak for any Olineman coming out of college. That's not taking into effect his extremely slow 40 time of 5.38 seconds, the slowest time among all Olinemen at the Combine, and his 10 yard split of 1.96 seconds was also the slowest. Best not ignore these results or expect them to suddenly get drastically improved in a matter of months.

Travis Frederick says hello. The bench is not a good test of football strength. Rule of thumb that if a lineman has 20 or more he's been in a lifting program. Wisconsin where Frederick came from does not use the bench at all. That's why Frederick also lifted 21 reps. Frederick also ran much slower than 5.38. Both players show on tape that they can pull and hit a moving target. Testing wise its the 20 yd shuttle that should be looked at for guys in the trenches. Booker ran a 4.65 at his pro day which was what Tyler Smith ran.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Travis Frederick says hello. The bench is not a good test of football strength. Rule of thumb that if a lineman has 20 or more he's been in a lifting program. Wisconsin where Frederick came from does not use the bench at all. That's why Frederick also lifted 21 reps. Frederick also ran much slower than 5.38. Both players show on tape that they can pull and hit a moving target. Testing wise its the 20 yd shuttle that should be looked at for guys in the trenches. Booker ran a 4.65 at his pro day which was what Tyler Smith ran.

True, but a Center does not move side to side or pull hardly at all compared to a Guard. That's just the truth. I know. I was a 2 time high school All State Center. A Guard has to be much more athletic and able to move fluidly while being strong both upper body, lower body and core center strength. A Guard is the piston to an engine. The more mobile and stronger PSI your piston creates, the more horsepower your engine builds to use.

 

[coult44]

So how does that work then?
A first round 29th pick tackle was a mistake to start and needed to have earned his spot and slowly worked his way into the starting lineup...

While the first round 12th pick guard starts immediately in front of someone who did a credible job at guard the year before?

How are positions "earned" in a Dallas Cowboys training camp?

Like Zeke's early year snaps last year even after McFraud had said publicly Dowdle was the best RB in camp.

It’s shows you how much they screwed up picking Guyton! Also had a different head coach making those decisions!

 

[atlantacowboy]

No surprise. You don't spend the 12th pick in the draft on a guy unless he is a day 1 starter.

 

[speedkilz88]

True, but a Center does not move side to side or pull hardly at all compared to a Guard. That's just the truth. I know. I was a 2 time high school All State Center. A Guard has to be much more athletic and able to move fluidly while being strong both upper body, lower body and core center strength. A Guard is the piston to an engine. The more mobile and stronger PSI your piston creates, the more horsepower your engine builds to use.

It matters by the scheme. If you do a lot of pin and pull the center needs to be able to move.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Looks small

 

[America's Cowboy]

It matters by the scheme. If you do a lot of pin and pull the center needs to be able to move.

Your Guards need to be athletic enough to pin down fast enough to cover the Center's man. Tyler Booker is not there yet, so don't expect to see Cooper Beebe running a lot of pulls if any.

 

[Chasing6]

Hoffman said the same thing when Beebe was drafted to play center.

Hoffman is know listed as the back up Center on the depth chart.

 

[darthseinfeld]

When was the last time that happened?

Tyler Smith

 

[Chasing6]

Thank goodness I hate when we put our first round pick at #player on the depth chart during practices! Let them get out there right away!!

Maybe Deuce should be listed as RB1, since all of our RB's are new to the roster and have not earned it yet.

Oh, wait Deuce is only listed now on special teams.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Maybe Deuce should be listed as RB1, since all of our RB's are new to the roster and have not earned it yet.

Oh, wait Deuce is only listed now on special teams.

Yeah have no clue what you're trying to get a laugh about bud I'm talking about our picks in round one in the previous regime putting those guys low on the depth chart during practices etc

 

[beware_d-ware]

Booker was a 4 year starter, and his football IQ jumped off the tape when I watched him. He's very aware on stunt and blitz pickups - very proactive rather than reactive, which is a rare trait for college linemen. I imagine that if you named a defensive play and asked him to diagram it out, he'd know the defense's assignments better than some of their starters do.

I think physically and mentally, Booker is plenty ready to start Week 1. I just don't know if he'll be any better than Hoffman or Bass by week 1. Guards normally take a while to develop, and Jalen Carter and Sexy Dexy are no freaking slouches. Booker's got to line up head-on and block some of the scariest athletes in the world. There will be a learning curve to it.

 

[Chasing6]

Yeah have no clue what you're trying to get a laugh about bud I'm talking about our picks in round one in the previous regime putting those guys low on the depth chart during practices etc

Well from the performance of both Guyton and Mazi, it appears obvious now why they had to earn it, based on their actually performance. Both were asked to drastically do something different.

This actually tells you a lot of the quality and their confidence of those two 1st round pick.

Booker is a different story. He is not a reach. He is a very experienced and physically dominating guard. He will struggle on the move, so if we attempt to pull him 15 times a game, our coaches are idiots.

Really not that difficult to understand.