News: Proposal to ban tush push FAILS by two votes, sources say

TheMarathonContinues said:
I said nothing about that era you are the one who brought up Roger. I said eliminating things like spiked passes would hurt the game in 2025. You brought up the past when it didn’t exist as if that changes my stance on that. So yeah sounds like you’re the one with no clue and suffering from yesterdayism.
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Classic TMC.

You said taking away the new rules. such as the spike rule, would "eliminate" comebacks and last second victories. When it was pointed out to you that comebacks and last second victories did in fact happen prior to these rules you started digging.

Now you're crying about "yesterdayism" as if history has absolutely no value.

It's as if you think nothing existed before you showed up kicking and screaming.
 
Vtwin said:
Classic TMC.

You said taking away the new rules. such as the spike rule, would "eliminate" comebacks and last second victories. When it was pointed out to you that comebacks and last second victories did in fact happen prior to these rules you started digging.

Now you're crying about "yesterdayism" as if history has absolutely no value.

It's as if you think nothing existed before you showed up kicking and screaming.
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Spiked passes don't lead to injuries.
 
Vtwin said:
Classic TMC.

You said taking away the new rules. such as the spike rule, would "eliminate" comebacks and last second victories. When it was pointed out to you that comebacks and last second victories did in fact happen prior to these rules you started digging.

Now you're crying about "yesterdayism" as if history has absolutely no value.

It's as if you think nothing existed before you showed up kicking and screaming.
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Not at all. I just don’t go crying about “back in my day” anytime something happens I don’t like.

But you’re trying to deflect which this is one of your habits you can’t seem to control.

You said:

So.... Having no experience and hence no clue doesn't stop you from making conclusive statements on the very thing you have no experience with and no clue about.

Where did I make conclusive statements on the very thing I have no clue about? Stick to the topic and don’t veer off. Let’s see you work.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Where did I make conclusive statements on the very thing I have no clue about?
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Post # 70. "SO you basically want to eliminate comeback wins or last second scores lol:" You then went on to gaslight making references to 1925 and a hundred years ago.

TheMarathonContinues said:
Not at all. I just don’t go crying about “back in my day” anytime something happens I don’t like.
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That is not at all what happened. In fact, it is you attempting to create that false narrative and then deflect to it. You're just doubling down on your feelings that history doesn't matter and more specifically that anything that happened before your day doesn't matter.


Yea, bro. There is no value at all in reflecting on history when talking about change and the effects of that change.

You got us, bro.
 
Vtwin said:
Post # 70. "SO you basically want to eliminate comeback wins or last second scores lol:" You then went on to gaslight making references to 1925 and a hundred years ago.


That is not at all what happened. In fact, it is you attempting to create that false narrative and then deflect to it. You're just doubling down on your feelings that history doesn't matter and more specifically that anything that happened before your day doesn't matter.


Yea, bro. There is no value at all in reflecting on history when talking about change and the effects of that change.

You got us, bro.
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I never said history didn’t matter what I said was in todays game getting rid of things like spiking the football would get rid of the excitement from game winning drives.
You’re just doubling down on anything that happened in your day is superior to anything that happened after it. Yesterdayism.
Never said there wasn’t value in the last but this is a tactic of yours and then claim “us” as if you speak for anyone but yourself. :laugh:
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
what I said was in todays game getting rid of things like spiking the football would get rid of the excitement from game winning drives.
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Yes. This is exactly what you said. I pointed out how ridiculous this claim was and offered the example of history as the evidence.

Now you're arguing with yourself. lol

I'll leave you to it. Good luck.
 
Of every team was doing it as successfully, I’d ban it. When it’s just one team, I say to the rest of the nfl, figure it out.
 
Jimbo123 said:
Wrong. Not one injury has ever been reported during a Tush Push.
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Well there's the problem, relying on injury reports.

However, you're approaching it from the wrong angle. Look at it from the point of putting players in a hazardous position.
 
I don’t like the play. For years and years in the NFL players were not allowed to push the ball carrier. It was a penalty! It should still be a penalty! It should be banned!

Back in the day Tom Brady and Steve Young( with 2 of the best and most creative offenses) would use the QB sneak to get 1st downs 90% of the time on 4th and a foot or so. With the ability to push the ball carrier teams like Philly and Buffalo are now able to get 1st downs on 4th and a yard and a half.

I think it should be banned, but until it is, I think Dallas especially would be stupid not to use it. With the size of our C, G’s and Dak we should work on the tush push until we get good at it.

In today’s NFL on 3rd and less than a yard it is stupid to hand the ball off 5 yards behind the LOS with a decent chance of having the play blown up behind the LOS.
The tush push is NEVER blown up 2-5 yards behind the LOS!

Until the play is outlawed, Dallas MUST get good at it. It is an important play that keeps the offense on the field or scores an important TD.
 
Captain43Crash said:
I don’t like the play. For years and years in the NFL players were not allowed to push the ball carrier. It was a penalty! It should still be a penalty! It should be banned!

Back in the day Tom Brady and Steve Young( with 2 of the best and most creative offenses) would use the QB sneak to get 1st downs 90% of the time on 4th and a foot or so. With the ability to push the ball carrier teams like Philly and Buffalo are now able to get 1st downs on 4th and a yard and a half.

I think it should be banned, but until it is, I think Dallas especially would be stupid not to use it. With the size of our C, G’s and Dak we should work on the tush push until we get good at it.

In today’s NFL on 3rd and less than a yard it is stupid to hand the ball off 5 yards behind the LOS with a decent chance of having the play blown up behind the LOS.
The tush push is NEVER blown up 2-5 yards behind the LOS!

Until the play is outlawed, Dallas MUST get good at it. It is an important play that keeps the offense on the field or scores an important TD.
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Ref the bold: I don't think Dak has the physical ability to run the play successfully. The guy supposedly blew out his hammy on a non contact play, what do you think the physical stress of a play like that would do to his legs? Philly has great success with the play because of Hurts. Dak isn't Hurts....
 
Vtwin said:
Yes. This is exactly what you said. I pointed out how ridiculous this claim was and offered the example of history as the evidence.

Now you're arguing with yourself. lol

I'll leave you to it. Good luck.
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And I told you it’s not 1925 anymore just because it worked then doesn’t mean it will work in 2025….not sure why that it’s so difficult for you to get.
 
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