Mickey: Do Not Minimize Dak's Availability

[blueblood70]

To me, a costly interception cost you the game when it shouldn't have. Look to Brett Favre in the NFC championship game against the Saints.

In 2007 Romo had a 4th and 11 with 16 seconds left and no timeouts from the 23 yard line. If he could pull that off, that would be a miracle win. Staubach did something similar back in 1975 on a 4th and 16 to Pearson a few plays prior to the Hail Mary. Those are heroics. No one would have called Roger a choker if he couldn't convert a 4th and 16 against the Vikings on a muddy field. People are grasping at straws and ignoring everything else that happened. Especially when they bring up Dez not catching the ball. I'm sure it was Staubach's fault the Cowboys had to settle for a field goal when Jackie Smith dropped the TD pass.

Exactly I don't want to get into too many details and too long of a post but I get sick of hearing how Prescott ruined the first half of those games and that's why they never caught up absolutely nonsense...

Go back and look at the two interceptions against Green Bay literally both not his fault go break them down and you'll find out they were not costly good teams with good defenses a solid run game play great in the trenches they can make up for those quarterbacks are not expected to play like Superman and perfect any other place...

I mean Cason Point Matthew Stafford led the league in interceptions goes into the Super Bowl guess what throws two interceptions the man is the same exact player from Detroit who could never win in Detroit because they didn't have a good enough team you know what they did

Aaron Donald and that defects shuck those down they made sure those interceptions were not costly that is what good teams do that is really what great teams do they make it okay for players to make mistakes as long as you're right the costly 1 would be in the last two or three minutes and you can't make up for it you can't go back you can't fix it but the ones that happened in the 1st quarter or the 1st half you can come back from those i've seen lots of teams do it you can't ask for perfection in every interception has its own story...



I can promise you I ain't getting it into it again those two interceptions were not on Prescott 1 was interference not once but twice on Brandon Cooks the other one is on CD Lamb for going off script he was running a route across the field whether it was supposed to be a post or just a crossing route he thought it wasn't open he changed it prescott already made up his mind ball's already out too late lamb left the area.... But it doesn't matter they could have still won that game had the defense played better the defense was bad from snap one until snap 61 however many snaps they ran on offense against us they destroyed our defense Story Prescott would have had to play a perfect game and score on every drive that's ridiculous to ask a quarterback to have to play games like that..

This is why in the same playoffs we watched the Lions jump all over the San Francisco 49ers the same way it was almost the exact same score at halftime deficit as the Cowboys except for one thing the Cowboys defense gave up 3 straight touchdowns coming out of halftime but the 49ers didn't the 49ers defense special teams and coaching mates sure they figured out a way to come back and guess what they beat the Lions it was a game that could have been won by the Cowboys even after the interceptions even after the bad first half if the defense would have actually came to play if the offensive line in the run game could have got their **** together but they didn't....


So those saying that costly interceptions are the ones that actually literally you can go to and say that cost you the game directly cost you the game they're all bad they all matter but good teams find a way to make sure that if you were running back fumbles or your quarterback those at interception that they got your back they're good enough to overcome those things the Cowboys have not been good enough to overcome those things.....

 

[blueblood70]

I do not have a problem with your interpretation, but it will not be universally shared by other readers.


Bold> That is the difference between football fan thinking back then and some football fan thinking--both young and old--in this current era of the game.

Correct just like in the Seattle game where Romo fumbled the ball that looked like it was oiled up with olive oil you know they kicking ball that was nonsense course he was sweating had hands sweating balls all oily but let's just go to the play before with a bad call by the referees in my opinion that's a first town witten was livid he had a right to be livid and we would not have been talking about the bad snap and the bad hold we would be talking about first in goal from the 1 and probably win that game....

You can go back to a lot of instances in all these games it's not just on the quarterback you can overcome interceptions especially the ones in the first half if you have a good enough team the fact is the Cowboys have not played well enough into trenches they don't have a strong enough run game they don't have a strong enough defense to limit the other team for long enough to give the offense a chance to catch up it all matters it's a team game you can't keep blaming the quarterback for not playing perfectly anymore than you can blame a guy for missing a tackle that caused a touchdown on the other side or an interceptions you should have caught and you didn't and it gave them life and they scored on that drive we could go back to all these plays the Cowboys just frankly haven't been good enough it's stopped blaming the quarterback...

 

[Chasing6]

He alright. I'll cheer him on. Not my favorite choice...but I probably not trance out on him like are Lance.

The more you bring him up the more you prove me right. What now?

Trance was trash and I called it in the first 5 minutes.

Even if he was outstanding, it made absolutely zero cents, with his and Dak's contract expiring at the same time.

Then to top it off, dumb GM Jethro decides to not even play him, after Dak gets hurt. That has to be one of the dumbest trades I have ever seen.

 

[acr731]

Wha, wha, Dak does not have enough "weapons"! Every time he screws up, he does not have any weapons. That is just one of many. lol. Then the defense, the oline, the receivers, it just goes on and on, homie.

I'm flabbergasted that he is still demanding proof..... he knows, he's just playing this childish game trying to get people to engage with him, perhaps in a way that will allow him to hit the 'report' button while he plays the victim in an attempt to get you sidelined for 24 hours.

I told him I wasn't going to get into it with him and I won't.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Trance was trash and I called it in the first 5 minutes.

Even if he was outstanding, it made absolutely zero cents, with his and Dak's contract expiring at the same time.

Then to top it off, dumb GM Jethro decides to not even play him, after Dak gets hurt. That has to be one of the dumbest trades I have ever seen.

So you see..how bad you are tranced out. You asked me about Grier and I answered about Grier. Now you're going on and on about Lance.

STILL?

You might need professional help on this.

 

[Chasing6]

So you see..how bad you are tranced out. You asked me about Grier and I answered about Grier. Now you're going on and on about Lance.

STILL?

You might need professional help on this.

We let Grier walk, who arguably had one of the best week 3 preseason games in NFL history, so we could add a fraud to the roster.

 

[OGSixshooter]

lol. I think I can crank out accurate information to complete this assignment.

Game situation - Giants leading 21 -17, 4th Quarter, 16 seconds remaining, 4th down, ball at the New York 23-yard line. Click here for the video to show the interception between marks 8:33 - 8:44 only.
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Do not click here for the perfect, back-of-the-endzone pass to a just-above-jogging Patrick Crayton on the previous third down play with 21 seconds remaining between video marks 8:23-8:32 only.​

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Game situation - Minnesota leading 17-3, 1:14 remaining in the third quarter, 3rd down, ball at the Dallas' 20-yard line. Click here for the video showing the interception between marks 4:43 - 5:08 only.
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Do not click here for an entire 4:05 video exhibiting how the Vikings' front harassed Romo all four quarters​

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All interceptions thrown by all quarterbacks are costly. There should always be some form of deductive reasoning for understanding the causes behind any interception. Unfortunately, I have found that is not commonly the case for a significant number of observers at any level of the game.

I digress though. Answer: gunslinger Tony Romo threw a total of two costly interceptions out of 185 total passing attempts (link) in six playoff games during his career.

It's funny, I don't disagree with this...and I think this is supported by the facts. THAT SAID...it proves my issues with Romo in the postseason. While Dak goes "deer-in-headlights", Romo goes into a shell..."don't lose" mode and plays not to lose...and we end up losing. Because he was hyper aware of not throwing INTs -probably because if he threw 1 he was going to throw at least 5 interceptable passes afterwards - he would play too cautiously to win games we should have won.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

We let Grier walk, who arguably had one of the best week 3 preseason games in NFL history, so we could add a fraud to the roster.

Right...its what we do. QB1 for starters.

 

[Chasing6]

lol. I think I can crank out accurate information to complete this assignment.

Game situation - Giants leading 21 -17, 4th Quarter, 16 seconds remaining, 4th down, ball at the New York 23-yard line. Click here for the video to show the interception between marks 8:33 - 8:44 only.
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Do not click here for the perfect, back-of-the-endzone pass to a just-above-jogging Patrick Crayton on the previous third down play with 21 seconds remaining between video marks 8:23-8:32 only.​

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Game situation - Minnesota leading 17-3, 1:14 remaining in the third quarter, 3rd down, ball at the Dallas' 20-yard line. Click here for the video showing the interception between marks 4:43 - 5:08 only.
__________

Do not click here for an entire 4:05 video exhibiting how the Vikings' front harassed Romo all four quarters​

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All interceptions thrown by all quarterbacks are costly. There should always be some form of deductive reasoning for understanding the causes behind any interception. Unfortunately, I have found that is not commonly the case for a significant number of observers at any level of the game.

I digress though. Answer: gunslinger Tony Romo threw a total of two costly interceptions out of 185 total passing attempts (link) in six playoff games during his career.

And you could argue one was on 4th down with no time on the clock, so throwing it away would be point less.

 

[Chasing6]

lol. I think I can crank out accurate information to complete this assignment.

Game situation - Giants leading 21 -17, 4th Quarter, 16 seconds remaining, 4th down, ball at the New York 23-yard line. Click here for the video to show the interception between marks 8:33 - 8:44 only.
__________

Do not click here for the perfect, back-of-the-endzone pass to a just-above-jogging Patrick Crayton on the previous third down play with 21 seconds remaining between video marks 8:23-8:32 only.​

__________

Game situation - Minnesota leading 17-3, 1:14 remaining in the third quarter, 3rd down, ball at the Dallas' 20-yard line. Click here for the video showing the interception between marks 4:43 - 5:08 only.
__________

Do not click here for an entire 4:05 video exhibiting how the Vikings' front harassed Romo all four quarters​

__________

All interceptions thrown by all quarterbacks are costly. There should always be some form of deductive reasoning for understanding the causes behind any interception. Unfortunately, I have found that is not commonly the case for a significant number of observers at any level of the game.

I digress though. Answer: gunslinger Tony Romo threw a total of two costly interceptions out of 185 total passing attempts (link) in six playoff games during his career.

It is funny to me because Aikman has 60 more interceptions than Dak, but Dak has an interception problem.

 

[acr731]

It is funny to me because Aikman has 60 more interceptions than Dak, but Dak has an interception problem.

Aikman also has 3 of something else that Dak will never come close to. It's funny to me that the Dak defenders always toss this fact aside.

 

[Hadenough]

Without Belichick Brady doesn’t win in New England. I don’t know where you people make the stuff up in your mind. With this mindset, I guess Tony Romo sucked as bad as Prescott. It’s a teen sport. Jimmy Johnson sucked in Miami. But he was good in Dallas. Another stupid statement.

Yes it's a team sport but the QB is the most important position on the team. You take Mahomes and put him on the Cowboys and they win a SB. You take Brady and put him on the Tampa Bay Bucks and they win a SB. Nobody is saying it's not a team sport what they are saying is a great QB can make the organization great. Chiefs and Andy Reid didn't win with Alex Smith.
Belichick and Patriots became mortal when Brady left.
Dak is just like Alex Smith. No matter how good a team you surround him with he will fail in the playoffs because he just isn't good enough. And unfortunately Romo did suck in the biggest moments. I do think he had more physical talent the Dak but he like Dak didn't have the pedigree like and Eli Manning.

 

[JoeKing]

Dak being available is not the advantage Mickey thinks it is. Dak is not mobile enough, and he's not clutch. The best plan is to have Milton ready to start when Dak gets a season ending injury early in the season.

 

[Johannes44]

Dak being available is not the advantage Mickey thinks it is. Dak is not mobile enough, and he's not clutch. The best plan is to have Milton ready to start when Dak gets a season ending injury early in the season.

Exactly, he is writing this as if Dak is a difference maker. He wasn't that before the injury, certainly isn't going to be that after.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I do think he had more physical talent the Dak but he like Dak didn't have the pedigree like and Eli Manning.

Right...Romo was a walk on. Maybe no "pedigree" but an overachiever nonetheless.

Eli? One of the luckiest SOB---er QB's to ever take the field. Big o-line, bruiser RBs, WR's that would hunt down his floating bombs. Good defense.

Pedigree...sure. But a lot of good players around him.

 

[Whirlwin]

Yes it's a team sport but the QB is the most important position on the team. You take Mahomes and put him on the Cowboys and they win a SB. You take Brady and put him on the Tampa Bay Bucks and they win a SB. Nobody is saying it's not a team sport what they are saying is a great QB can make the organization great. Chiefs and Andy Reid didn't win with Alex Smith.
Belichick and Patriots became mortal when Brady left.
Dak is just like Alex Smith. No matter how good a team you surround him with he will fail in the playoffs because he just isn't good enough. And unfortunately Romo did suck in the biggest moments. I do think he had more physical talent the Dak but he like Dak didn't have the pedigree like and Eli Manning.

Mahomes and the Cowboys win a Super Bowl, he can’t even win on his own team. Twice he got destroyed he never should’ve beat the 49ers either other than a Hail Mary.

 

[Swagger]

Mahomes and the Cowboys win a Super Bowl, he can’t even win on his own team. Twice he got destroyed he never should’ve beat the 49ers either other than a Hail Mary.

Mahomes has won 3 Superbowls.

 

[Swagger]

Dak's performance against the 49ers in 2023 showed everyone why he will never win a Superbowl. Purdy. Mr Irrelevant took care of the ball. No turnovers even though he was sacked more than Dak yet he was able to make enough plays to win the game. 2 interceptions by Dak and countless opportunities missed meant the offense was unable to put up the insurmountable 20 points to win the game.

It was more difficult but a top 5 QB beats the 49ers in 2022 as well but 2023 was the real missed opportunity where it all required was a steady top 15 QB type performance.

The Green Bay loss in 2016 is always cited for the defensive frailties - they certainly played their part but the defense was built on time of possession of the offense and building leads yet they barely scored a point until the latter part of the 2nd quarter against one of the worst play off pass defenses in the history of the NFL as illustrated the following week by Matt Ryan and the Falcons. The game was lost in the first half. I don't blame Dak here this was on the front office for playing a rookie QB over a vet All Pro QB at that time like Romo against that pass defense. Shocking.

The losses to the Rams and recent embarrassment to the Packers was more on the run defense (Rams) and general D vs the Packers although Dak was still terrible in the latter. Let's have it right.

In terms of Play Off losses realistically none of those were on Romo for his actual quarterback play.

15/19. 2 Touchdowns vs the Packers. Murray spilled the ball with an open field for a potential TD, Bailey missed a penalty which had a net impact of -6 points as it gave the Packers time to score 3 points before half time and the Dez "no catch".

No quarterback would have done anything of note against the O Line he had in front of him against the Vikings and had Patrick Crayton not hesitated on his route then the Cowboys beat the eventual Superbowl champions who also beat Brady/Belichick and the Patriots.

The Seahawks he can be blamed but well why on earth was he even holding the ball for the kicker (I don't see Mahomes doing this) and even then if he got a regulation block and not a whiff then he wins the game with an albeit fortunate yet opportunistic walk in touchdown.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I'm just throwing this out there, cap hit in 2025:
Dak $50m
Mahomes $28m
Allen $36m
Hurts $42m
Purdy $9m
Lawrence $17m (who gets brought up a lot)

Dallas doesn't have a defense this year and that is Dak's fault. Or Jerry's fault for giving him that deal. Whatever. When the team loses 28 to 40 in the first round of the playoffs or doesn't even make them due to defense, let's keep this in mind.

Dude has a cap hit 22 MILLION DOLLARS higher than Patrick Mahomes.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs

so tell me why dallas sucked when Dak's cap hit were 17,19,25M? and Purdy just signed a contract before his rookie deal is done. his cap hit was going to be low. Jerry wasn't smart enough to do that with Dak. he actually argued over 1-2M per year additional on the contract, ended up tagging him because he had no other plan and actually paid way more in that tag than the difference he was holding out for.

Jerry isn't the smartest GM.....
and Mahomes signed a 10 year contract. 450M. the biggest and longest contract ever. it was a risk/reward for Mahomes and KC. its obviously working out for both of them. KC gambled that Mahoems wouldn't get hurt and would be available and the 10 year contract allowed them to manage the cap. the cap varies year to year and it all comes due the last couple of years.

 

[Swagger]

Imagine a QB helping the offense score 48 points, throwing 5 touchdowns and over 500 yards yet being blamed in a 51-48 loss after throwing an interception when an offensive lineman trod on his foot!