Who says I give them no chance to do anything, and what actually have they DONE to accomplish this. Do you know the concept of "Lip Service?" One difference between me and you is that I don't want anyone to be negative come game time, when I do have my hopes up high every game. But when I am on a forum, I want to be able to give my true analysis of how I see the team. It seems like you do not want anybody being negative on the zone at anytime, which in effects makes this the Happy Zone, at which point the place stops being a forum at all. I don't like true haters and I don't like homers, but I can stand the haters a bit more than the homers because I don't like self delusion -- people lying to themselves in other words. I'm not a mark.