Are fans ready to accept the Micah trade devasted our defense?

The issue is you're using common sense.

If Jerry had really wanted to trade Parsons, he could have gotten a much better deal if he would have been proactive instead of reactive.
Yes, especially if he had traded him prior to the draft this year. Jerry waits too long on these contracts- Dak, CD, etc. They always end up costing him more doing it this way and you always run the risk of running out of time this way. Not to mention if you run in to any snags, then you are up against the start of the season. Just plain dumb
 
Well, we put 40 on them.

But maybe he makes more sense on a team like GB that maybe needed that one piece on defense to make a legit Super Bowl run. Dallas is far from it and after giving Dak 60M and CD 35M, there was no path forward to build around a Micah lead defense at the salary he wanted. It was a good move for both teams.
We put 40 on them and gave the birds a run for their money, and yet we're still 2-3-1

Who in their right mind makes Dak the highest paid QB when Jerry did?

The reality is there really seems to be no strategic planning on building this team, just a reaction to spin it in a positive way so it makes the GM looks like he knows what he's doing LMAO
 
I think signing him to a 46M contract would have been a worse decision. Fact is that this defense wasn't any good last year even with Micah. So far with GB, he got 2.5 sack and 11 tackles through 5 games. They can have him.
Agreed but let’s not forget that the only reason this team was looking at a $46 mil price tag was because of Jerry’s insane approach of “getting deals” (Jerry-speak for overpaying) in the last second.
 
Turns out a coworker is a big cheese head and was in Green Bay for the game this past Sunday.

I asked him about that game because Parsons look to have 0 tackles and wasn't even mentioned in the defensive stats.

His exact words were "he cause a lot of havoc and the other linebackers cashed in on it" along with "made Flacco think about him though".

The intangible that stats can seem to track is how a great football player makes his side of the ball better, particularly on defense, because if that guy is getting the attention, anyone who has some skill and is good can cash in on it.
Fans on this forum, never seem to understand this.
 
Well if you can even call it a "trade". It's more like a failed contract negotiation. The plan was for Parsons to be here, but because of Jones things got so toxic that a "trade" had to be made at the last moment. It's hard for me to even blame the Defensive Coordinator for this defense, because it was like he got surprised by this last minute trade. Its also a hallmark of how our GM builds the team, where while the roster does have talent, there is no depth. You unexpectedly lose Parsons at the beginning of the season, you don't have anyone you can plug in and keep the passrush at least half decent. No passrush effects impacts our secondary as well. The DC maybe the wrong guy, but well, who knows without Jones botched negotiations, last minute trades, etc.
There is no question this was poorly handled by Jerry. But there were a lot of people questioning the wisdom of signing Parsons to a 200M deal. The mistake was not in trading Parsons. The error was the timing. The should have been done last march. Yes, this was unfair to Eberflus but personnel wise, this was a very suspect defense even with Parsons. We have too many free lancing knuckleheads who don't understand Eberflus's defensive design.
 
Agreed but let’s not forget that the only reason this team was looking at a $46 mil price tag was because of Jerry’s insane approach of “getting deals” (Jerry-speak for overpaying) in the last second.
I'm not at all saying that Jerry handled this the right way. His age and senility was definitely showing through here. Jerry wanted him for 41M a year which I also think would have been a mistake. This should have been thought through and worked out one way or another last spring.
 
We put 40 on them and gave the birds a run for their money, and yet we're still 2-3-1

Who in their right mind makes Dak the highest paid QB when Jerry did?

The reality is there really seems to be no strategic planning on building this team, just a reaction to spin it in a positive way so it makes the GM looks like he knows what he's doing LMAO
There hasn't been a strategic plan to build this team since Parcel left town. My point was that the GB defense didn't look too good against us. If that's all they get from Parsons, they made a bad trade.
 
They need a bunch more than they would have with him. How long will that take.

And will that basically waste Daks remaining years? Like it will this year.

I’d argue we have more questions than answers at this point. Perhaps some of you have more faith in our dysfunctional ownership than I do.
With the use of fa and these extra picks, you can build the defense in a hurry. For the Parsons trade to become successful, they must sign 2-3 impact fa's with the money saved and use those picks to fix the defense.
 
Another Taco Charlton and Mazi Smith aren't going to make us much better. This is the type of defensive talent we've acquired most recently with mid- to late-first-round picks. (Well, them and Leighton Vander Esch.) That's why you don't trade one player if that player is a special talent.
Well lets hope we don't draft anyone from Michigan again then. :laugh:
 
nah, this trade needed to happen. Hopefully it opens the eyes of the FO about how horrible this defense is and they reload with the right players next year.
Imagine having a FO that doesn’t see the reality of what their team is until the fans do. No foresight, no real plan - reactive not proactive.
 
With the use of fa and these extra picks, you can build the defense in a hurry. For the Parsons trade to become successful, they must sign 2-3 impact fa's with the money saved and use those picks to fix the defense.
When was the last time this FO signed 2-3 “impact FAs”? Especially on defense.
 
I understand if we were actually in an official rebuild mode and Micah wasn’t in our plans as we planned on trading him to highest bidder during Free Agency that could have actually been a strategic plan. But that’s not what happened. We had every intention on resigning. We just couldn’t get a deal done . But I’m not here to argue out as that’s been exhausted over last couple months.

This thread is about what the impacts of losing Micah has meant to this defense . The fact we lost him a week before the season had to be devasting to a DC and schemes with other losses on defense in FA and injuries.

Where was our pass rush going to come from. We also lost Lawrence as a Cap Casualty. Our top two edge rushers gone .

And with our 2 CB’s not a 100% recovering from injuries we were leaving our secondary very vulnerable without a pass rush.

WTH were we thinking. We had to know it could be a disaster .
Our secondary has killed us. Not sure if parsons could get there fast enough to help us…
 
This defense would have been bad with Micah as well. Its that bad.

Now that it is over I am glad they traded him. They have money to sign players and draft picks to help this defense going forward.
They had the $$$ to do what ever they wanted, regardless of trading Micah or not.
 
Turns out a coworker is a big cheese head and was in Green Bay for the game this past Sunday.

I asked him about that game because Parsons look to have 0 tackles and wasn't even mentioned in the defensive stats.

His exact words were "he cause a lot of havoc and the other linebackers cashed in on it" along with "made Flacco think about him though".

The intangible that stats can seem to track is how a great football player makes his side of the ball better, particularly on defense, because if that guy is getting the attention, anyone who has some skill and is good can cash in on it.
GB has more talent and a better DC

Micah was wasted here

sad fact
 
Good point. Fans soured on DLaw because he was expected to get double digit sacks after his big contract. But he was never a pure pass rusher, just an overall good player. Can't leave out Jourdan Lewis either. He wasn't flashy but always seemed to make plays in key moments.
Fans are stupid.. That's why you never let them dictate what your team does. And they sour on pretty much anybody who gets a big contract. Like we love a guy making 1 million a year but if he's making 20 million a year we hate him. Same guy, just bigger paycheck. It makes zero sense but we see it every day. I don't pay any of the salaries so I simply don't spend any time or energy worrying about what they get paid. The ONLY concern I have about salaries is how they impact the cap because that impacts how good my team is going to be. Beyond that.. I could care less. At some point a guy is going to make 100 million a year and people will lose their ever lovin minds about it.. As long as it fits under the cap.. I won't bat an eye. In my lifetime I have seen salaries go from when 500K a year was the highest paid player in the game to where that is now league minimum. I've never once not watched a game because guys make too much money.. and I never will.
 
I understand if we were actually in an official rebuild mode and Micah wasn’t in our plans as we planned on trading him to highest bidder during Free Agency that could have actually been a strategic plan. But that’s not what happened. We had every intention on resigning. We just couldn’t get a deal done . But I’m not here to argue out as that’s been exhausted over last couple months.

This thread is about what the impacts of losing Micah has meant to this defense . The fact we lost him a week before the season had to be devasting to a DC and schemes with other losses on defense in FA and injuries.

Where was our pass rush going to come from. We also lost Lawrence as a Cap Casualty. Our top two edge rushers gone .

And with our 2 CB’s not a 100% recovering from injuries we were leaving our secondary very vulnerable without a pass rush.

WTH were we thinking. We had to know it could be a disaster .
That is only part of it. Lewis/Watkins/Golston/DLaw/Kendricks were all huge losses. Why? Because they were replaced w/ PS level players.
 
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