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Just about every show that has been cancelled after 2+ seasons over the last 10-15 years has the production company behind it saying, "Production costs were too high" followed by "viewership was declining".

Those seemed like legitimate reasons early on but I have read that excuse dozens of times in the last few years when checking if TV shows were cancelled, yet they keep making new shows and cancelling them for the exact same reasons.

If that were truly the reason they would eventually at least add some low-cost productions, but they rarely do that. If the set/location costs are lower, they offset it by bringing in higher paying actors, so it's not really a problem for them.

The truth is the networks have figured out something the NFL figured out long ago .. it's cheaper to drop the shows with actors seeking their 3rd+ season contracts and replace them with new shows with actors on their 1st-2nd year contracts.

While only one season may be guaranteed with a show, the framework for most primary actors in their contracts is defined for the first two seasons of the show.

Basically its "if show is renewed, this is what you will be paid in season 2" agreements so that's why even bad shows sometimes get a second season because it can be cheaper to film scenes/episodes of the second season (especially those with changing locations) ahead of time and the production company already knows how much the actors will cost.

So the production companies will blame costs but in reality it's not that shows are cost-prohibitive but simply profit margins are directly impacted making newer shows more profitable.

The exceptions of course are the shows with a high probability of syndication, especially if they can hit that 100+ episode magic number.
 
Scarpetta
Prime
3/10
Dont waste your time
Good cast but just bad writing and direction. 80% of the show is not about the actual case but the relationships and those seemed made up and way way exaggerated for no reason. Even the wifey cried uncle after a few episodes
 
visionary said:
Scarpetta
Prime
3/10
Dont waste your time
Good cast but just bad writing and direction. 80% of the show is not about the actual case but the relationships and those seemed made up and way way exaggerated for no reason. Even the wifey cried uncle after a few episodes
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Same opinion. Decided it wasn't worth my time after a couple of episodes.
 
visionary said:
Scarpetta
Prime
3/10
Dont waste your time
Good cast but just bad writing and direction. 80% of the show is not about the actual case but the relationships and those seemed made up and way way exaggerated for no reason. Even the wifey cried uncle after a few episodes
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IMGumby said:
Same opinion. Decided it wasn't worth my time after a couple of episodes.
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I read some of the books years ago. There was some of the family drama in them but I do not remember it being more of the focal point. Which is a shame because the books were actually pretty good. I thought the first season of the series would touch on the Body Farm in Virginia but it was never mentioned. If you know you know.
 
Reality said:
Just about every show that has been cancelled after 2+ seasons over the last 10-15 years has the production company behind it saying, "Production costs were too high" followed by "viewership was declining".

Those seemed like legitimate reasons early on but I have read that excuse dozens of times in the last few years when checking if TV shows were cancelled, yet they keep making new shows and cancelling them for the exact same reasons.

If that were truly the reason they would eventually at least add some low-cost productions, but they rarely do that. If the set/location costs are lower, they offset it by bringing in higher paying actors, so it's not really a problem for them.

The truth is the networks have figured out something the NFL figured out long ago .. it's cheaper to drop the shows with actors seeking their 3rd+ season contracts and replace them with new shows with actors on their 1st-2nd year contracts.

While only one season may be guaranteed with a show, the framework for most primary actors in their contracts is defined for the first two seasons of the show.

Basically its "if show is renewed, this is what you will be paid in season 2" agreements so that's why even bad shows sometimes get a second season because it can be cheaper to film scenes/episodes of the second season (especially those with changing locations) ahead of time and the production company already knows how much the actors will cost.

So the production companies will blame costs but in reality it's not that shows are cost-prohibitive but simply profit margins are directly impacted making newer shows more profitable.

The exceptions of course are the shows with a high probability of syndication, especially if they can hit that 100+ episode magic number.
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Yeah, that’s exactly why they canceled Ted after 2 seasons on Peacock. For me, it was a hilarious show, but they cited expense (mainly the CGI costs) as the reason they couldn’t continue moving forward.

I also think the pure saturation of television is affecting shows now too. I remember back in the day there were maybe 5-10 major shows people talked about. Now it’s show after show after show across 20 different streaming platforms. It’s honestly getting to be too much.

You go to work or hang out with people, and it’s always “you need to watch this show” or “have you seen that show?” or “you gotta start this one.” It’s crazy to me. I honestly don’t know how people find that much time for TV.

I can’t help but think the sheer amount of content out there has absolutely affected ratings and made it harder for any one show to really become a cultural event or something everybody talks about the way we did with shows like Friends or The Sopranos, just to name a couple.
 
Reality said:
Just about every show that has been cancelled after 2+ seasons over the last 10-15 years has the production company behind it saying, "Production costs were too high" followed by "viewership was declining".

Those seemed like legitimate reasons early on but I have read that excuse dozens of times in the last few years when checking if TV shows were cancelled, yet they keep making new shows and cancelling them for the exact same reasons.

If that were truly the reason they would eventually at least add some low-cost productions, but they rarely do that. If the set/location costs are lower, they offset it by bringing in higher paying actors, so it's not really a problem for them.

The truth is the networks have figured out something the NFL figured out long ago .. it's cheaper to drop the shows with actors seeking their 3rd+ season contracts and replace them with new shows with actors on their 1st-2nd year contracts.

While only one season may be guaranteed with a show, the framework for most primary actors in their contracts is defined for the first two seasons of the show.

Basically its "if show is renewed, this is what you will be paid in season 2" agreements so that's why even bad shows sometimes get a second season because it can be cheaper to film scenes/episodes of the second season (especially those with changing locations) ahead of time and the production company already knows how much the actors will cost.

So the production companies will blame costs but in reality it's not that shows are cost-prohibitive but simply profit margins are directly impacted making newer shows more profitable.

The exceptions of course are the shows with a high probability of syndication, especially if they can hit that 100+ episode magic number.
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Hence the explosion of reality shows that started up about a decade ago. Cheaper to pay non actor wages to a bunch of people desperate to get on tv each year.
 
The Boys went from good to meh. Feels like outside of the Sopranos, Breaking bad and BCS, once the last season is announced, the series goes to crap. Maybe Boardwalk Empire ending was good, but it's been a long time for that series for me.

Either stretched too long, or they try to cram every open plot line into a few episodes.
Homelander goes out like a fart in the wind.
 
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The Duffer brothers new project (stranger things)

This might be stranger things but in some kind of retirement community out in the desert.

Going to give it a whirl.
 
Anyone here see this show? I just watched it again and it was good.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5511582/
I liked abigail spencer she was in another show after this called "Reprisa" which I liked but it was canceled after 1 season.
I am going to watch that again too.
 
honestly, time travel has never intrigued me much beyond the few examples that were well done in Star Trek.

As a series, I remember Time Tunnel. I thought it was pretty good but then I was like 9. I went back years later and saw it on a cable channel and realized it was kind of cheesy yet not bad. Problem was that obviously no history could be changed and that got old after a while.
 
Bigdog said:
I can watch MASH over and over. Love the comedy and storylines in some of the episodes
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Agreed. Was stuck in the hospital/rehab nursing home for close to six months. The cable tv selections were very basic. One channel played a lot of old tv classics. The only one i looked forward two was a two episode block of Mash in the morning. I think that was on MeTv

At one time I had a subscription of Hulu. Only good thing was they had all the seasons on Mash on them. I binge watched them.
 
BrAinPaiNt said:


The Duffer brothers new project (stranger things)

This might be stranger things but in some kind of retirement community out in the desert.

Going to give it a whirl.
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This one was not bad. 8 episodes. I think it is a one season deal. Some may not like it.
 
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