Dallas Cowboys All Time Position Rankings

That's probably because the only other team Charles Haley played for besides the Cowboys was the 49ers.

Deion Sanders peddled his services around the league playing for the falcons 49ers commanders and Ravens
This is exactly the reason for the perception
 
This guy was uncoverable period, LB couldn’t stay with him. He would be 1 for me. Troy loved him. Also don’t remember many drops.
I get it and he was absolutely clutch and great in the playoffs

Overall though it’s not even close.

Witten will probably get in the HOF this year. He made the cut to seven on his first ballot and only lost out to Brees, Craig, Fitzgerald, Kuechly, and Vinatieri)
 
They would have had to play in the same time period with the same rules for you to be able to say that.
Terrell Owens flat out dropped a lot of balls and was known for it that wouldn't have gotten better if he played in the physical time period that Hayes played in.

On the other hand Hayes would have dominated today's game with all the rules geared to make it much easier to pass the ball.

It's just flat out the evolution of the game and being able to understand that circumstances alter cases.
Brother you're absolutely nuts. Lol Are you being serious here? There's a reason why there are more rules now. The average player is bigger, stronger and faster than the average player back then. TO would be unstoppable in the 70's. Even if he had Glenn Carano as his QB. It's CRAZY to think that it was more physical back then. Bradshaw being body slammed isn't about being physical, that's called a cheap shot. A 300-pound D-lineman would kill a QB today if they were allowed to play like the Raiders, even with the high-tech gear they wear now.

Let's be real here.
 
Not talking career I’m talking strictly in Dallas. And I saw more from Garrett in 2016 with a rookie QB do more than Mike ever did.

Mike wasn’t brought here to get us to the playoffs. Garrett did that. Mike was suppose to get us over the hump. He couldn’t. Mike was terrible here and then scapegoated Kellen Moore who would go to win a ring.

Garret also wasted some good teams and went 8-8 three straight years and then the bottom fell out and team quit on him toward the end.

Garrett was awful as a coach.

McCarthy had a higher win percentage than Garrett during their cowboys stints.

How many OC’s got thrown under the bus for Garrett’s failures?
 
Garret also wasted some good teams and went 8-8 three straight years and then the bottom fell out and team quit on him toward the end.

Garrett was awful as a coach.

McCarthy had a higher win percentage than Garrett during their cowboys stints.

How many OC’s got thrown under the bus for Garrett’s failures?

All those OCs under Garrett did what after they left here? Linehan? Nussmeiree? Horrible hires to begin with. It’s not like we had McVay or Shanahan here.

Garrett wasn’t good enough to make a 8 win team
Better than a 8 win team. I’m not even arguing Garrett was good. My argument was Mike was bad. Those 12 win teams were flawed but good teams. Winning 12 games mean nothing when the playoffs come and you lose first week.
 
Bob Hayes had an 8.6 second relay leg.

Bolt's best was 8.65.

Many have tried to downplay Hayes because of timing but fail to mention that Hayes was running on a bad track with borrowed shoes.

Bob Hayes achieved the fastest speed any human has ever been clocked at while sprinting and did so with two severe handicaps against him.
 
Bob Hayes had an 8.6 second relay leg.

Bolt's best was 8.65.

Many have tried to downplay Hayes because of timing but fail to mention that Hayes was running on a bad track with borrowed shoes.

Bob Hayes achieved the fastest speed any human has ever been clocked at while sprinting and did so with two severe handicaps against him.
The Greatest Track Sprint of all time IMHO.Incredible what Bob Hayes did there.The way he ran that Anchor Leg is breath taking to watch.

The famous anecdote from that is right before that Relay Race one of the other Teams Captains said to a couple of the other USA Sprinters that "All You guys have is Bob Hayes."

After Hayes dusted the field he jogged by him on his way to the podium and said "All We Needed!"
 
As a supporter of BOTH Romo and Dak....

I would swap their places on this list. Prime Romo was a special talent and it's a shame his career ended without a ring. We're getting close to Dak's ending the same way.
 
Garret also wasted some good teams and went 8-8 three straight years and then the bottom fell out and team quit on him toward the end.

Garrett was awful as a coach.

McCarthy had a higher win percentage than Garrett during their cowboys stints.

How many OC’s got thrown under the bus for Garrett’s failures?
I agree Garrett was an awful coach and no way should he have lasted ten years here. But to be fair those 8-8 Garrett teams were saddled with some of the worst defenses in franchise history. Remember the Rob Ryan/Monte Kiffin/Rod Marinelli crap shows?

Romo and the offense was all that kept those teams from being 3-13 instead of .500.
 
Brother you're absolutely nuts. Lol Are you being serious here? There's a reason why there are more rules now. The average player is bigger, stronger and faster than the average player back then. TO would be unstoppable in the 70's. Even if he had Glenn Carano as his QB. It's CRAZY to think that it was more physical back then. Bradshaw being body slammed isn't about being physical, that's called a cheap shot. A 300-pound D-lineman would kill a QB today if they were allowed to play like the Raiders, even with the high-tech gear they wear now.

Let's be real here.
The reason the rules were implemented is to enhance the passing game because the audience liked more scoring three yards and a cloud of dirt was not getting it.

Bob Hayes was faster than the average player today and 5 mph faster than the fastest player today. Very simple a bullet can outrun a cheetah

That's what's real so grasp it and understand.
TO was a whining primadonna who would have frozen to death in the ice bowl lol.

Bob Hayes would have blown the lid off of any secondary out there because they would not be allowed to put their hands on him.
Imagine somebody like trayvon diggs covering Bob Hayes what a joke he would embarrass him so bad in practice he'd go home and cry to his mama
 
My Dallas Cowboys Best All Time Position Rankings: REVISED BY EROMEOPOLK

QuarterBacks
1 Roger Staubach
2 Troy Aikman
3 Danny White
4 Don Meredith
5 Dak Prescott

Wide Receivers
1 Michael Irvin
2 Drew Pearson
3 "Bullet" Bob Hayes
4 Tony Hill
5 Dez Bryant

WR-WR3/SLOTs
1 Frank Clarke
2 Butch Johnson
3 Kelvin Martin
4 Kevin Williams
5 Golden Richards

Runningbacks
1 Emmitt Smith
2 Tony Dorsett
3 Zeke Elliott
4 Don Perkins
5 DeMarco Murray

Full Backs
1 Darryl Johnston
2 Walt Garrison
3 Ron Springs
4 Robert Newhouse
5 Marion Barber


Tight Ends
1 Jason Witten
2 Jay Novacek
3 Billy Joe Dupree
4 Doug Cosbie
5 Jake Ferguson

Offensive Tackles
1 Rayfield Wright
2 Erik Williams
3 Tyron Smith
4 Mark Tuneiu
5 Pat Donovan

Offensive Guards
1 Larry Allen
2 Zack Martin
3 Nate Newton
4 John Niland
5 Herb Scott

CENTERS
1 Travis Fredrick
2 Mark Stepnoski
3 Ray Donaldson
4 Andre Gurode
5 John Fitzgerald/Tom Rafferty

RETURNERS
1 Bob Hayes
2 Deion Sanders
3 Kevin Williams

KICKERS
1. Brandon Aubrey
2 Dan Bailey
3 Chris Bonoil
4 Rafeal Septian
5 Nick Folk

PUNTERS
1 Danny White
2 Matt McBriar
3 John Jett
4 Mike Saxon
5 Bryan Anger

HEAD COACHES
1 Tom Landry
2 Jimmie Johnson
3 Bill Parcells
4 Wade Phillips
5 Barry Switzer

OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS
1 Dan Reeves
2 Norv Turner
3 Ernie Zampese

DEFENSIVE COORDINATORS
1 Ernie Stautner
2 Dave Wannesadt
3 Butch Davis

Defensive Ends
1 Harvey Martin
2 Charles Haley
3 Ed Jones
4 Micah Parsons
5 George Andrie

Defensive Tackles
1 Bob Lilly
2 Randy White
3 Leon Lett
4 Jethro Pugh
5 Jay Ratliff/Russel Maryland

Outside Linebackers
1 DWare
2 Chuck Howley
3 Thomas Henderson
4 Ken Norton Jr./DD Lewis
5 Dexter Coakley

Middle Linebackers
1 Lee Roy Jordan
2 Bob Breuing
3 Jerry Tubbs/Ken Norton Jr.
4 Bradie James
5 Dat Nyguen

CornerBacks
1 Deion Sanders
2 Mel Renfro
3 Everson Walls
4 Terrence Newman
5 Cornell Green

Safeties
1 Cliff Harris
2 Darren Woodson
3 Roy Williams
4 Charlie Waters
5 Michael Downs/Cornell Green
 
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I agree Garrett was an awful coach and no way should he have lasted ten years here. But to be fair those 8-8 Garrett teams were saddled with some of the worst defenses in franchise history. Remember the Rob Ryan/Monte Kiffin/Rod Marinelli crap shows?

Romo and the offense was all that kept those teams from being 3-13 instead of .500.

HC is ultimately responsible for the defense too though. Even if they’re an offensive minded coach.
 
All those OCs under Garrett did what after they left here? Linehan? Nussmeiree? Horrible hires to begin with. It’s not like we had McVay or Shanahan here.

Garrett wasn’t good enough to make a 8 win team
Better than a 8 win team. I’m not even arguing Garrett was good. My argument was Mike was bad. Those 12 win teams were flawed but good teams. Winning 12 games mean nothing when the playoffs come and you lose first week.


We will have to agree to disagree.

Of course. Neither of them has good tenures here. But I blame the FO for everything. Every coach here is fighting an uphill battle thanks to the Jones boys.
 
We will have to agree to disagree.

Of course. Neither of them has good tenures here. But I blame the FO for everything. Every coach here is fighting an uphill battle thanks to the Jones boys.
I agree there. I think Garrett tried to do what was best for this team. I feel Mike didn’t care. Aloof.

How Mike got another job I don’t know. Especially in Pitt,
 
All those OCs under Garrett did what after they left here? Linehan? Nussmeiree? Horrible hires to begin with. It’s not like we had McVay or Shanahan here.

Garrett wasn’t good enough to make a 8 win team
Better than a 8 win team. I’m not even arguing Garrett was good. My argument was Mike was bad. Those 12 win teams were flawed but good teams. Winning 12 games mean nothing when the playoffs come and you lose first week.
Wasn't Kellen Moore the OC under Garrett ? ( Nuss was the QB coach, not OC)

Kellen was crit-fried here, but he went on to become the OC of a Super Bowl champ team on the Eagles, and now he's went on to become new HC of the Saints.

...To be continued..
 
Bob Hayes had an 8.6 second relay leg.

Bolt's best was 8.65.

Many have tried to downplay Hayes because of timing but fail to mention that Hayes was running on a bad track with borrowed shoes.

Bob Hayes achieved the fastest speed any human has ever been clocked at while sprinting and did so with two severe handicaps against him.
Usain Bolt achieved the fastest speed ever recorded by a human in the 2009 World Championship. He reached a speed of 27.8 mph during the 100-meter sprint. At 6'5", it's an absolute anomaly that he could hit that speed.
 
My Dallas Cowboys Best All Time Position Rankings:

QuarterBacks
1 Roger Staubach
2 Troy Aikman
3 Dak Prescott
4 Tony Romo
5 Danny White

Wide Receivers
1 Michael Irvin
2 Bob Hayes
3 Drew Pearson
4 Terrell Owens
5 Dez Bryant

WR-SLOTs
1 cole beasley
2 kevin martin
3 randall cobbs
4 patrick clayton
5 kevin williams

Runningbacks
1 Emmitt Smith
2 Tony Dorsett
3 Hershel Walker
4 Zeke Elliott
5 DeMarco Murray

Full Backs
1 Darryl Johnston
2 Robert Newhouse
3 Ron Springs
4 Wal Garrison
5 Don Perkins


Tight Ends
1 Jason Witten
2 Jay Novacek
3 Doug Cosbie
4 Billy Joe Dupree
5 Pettis Norman

Offensive Tackles
1 Rayfield Wright
2 Erik Williams
3 Tyron Smith
4 Mark Tuneiu
5 Pat Donovan

Offensive Guards
1 Larry Allen
2 Zack Martin
3 Nate Newton
4 John Niland
5 Herb Scott

CENTERS
1 Travis Fredrick
2 Mark Stepnoski
3 Ray Donaldson
4 Andre Gurode
5 John Fitzgerald

RETURNERS
1 Bob Hayes
2 Deion Sanders
3 Reggie Swinton

KICKERS
1. Brandon Aubrey
2 Dan Bailey
3 Chris Bonoi
4 Nick Folk
5 Brett Maher

PUNTERS
1 Pat McBriar
2 John Jett
3 Mike Saxon
4 Toby Gowin
5 Bryan Anger

HEAD COACHES
1 Tom Landry
2 Jimmie Johnson
3 Jason Garrett
4 Barry Switzer
5 Wade Phillips

OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS
1 Norv Turner
2 Ernie Zampese
3 Kellen Moore

DEFENSIVE COORDINATORS
1 Dave Wadsted
2 Butch Davis
3 Ernie Stautner

Defensive Ends
1 Charles Haley
2 Micah Parsons
3 Harvey Martin
4 Ed Jones
5 DLaw

Defensive Tackles
1 Bob Lilly
2 Randy White
3 Jay Ratliff
4 Jethro Pugh
5 Leon Lett

Outside Linebackers
1 DWare
2 Thomas Henderson
3 Dexter Coakley
4 Chuck Howley
5 Ken Norton Jr.

Middle Linebackers
1 Lee Roy Jordan
2 Sean Lee
3 Bob Breuing
4 Dat Nyguen
5 Bradie James

CornerBacks
1 Deion Sanders
2 Mel Renfro
3 Everson Walls
4 Terrence Newman
5 Herb Adderly

Safeties
1 Cliff Harris
2 Darren Woodson
3 Roy Williams
4 Charlie Waters
5 Cornell Green
Drew Pearson above Terrell Owens? Randall Cobbs top 3 slot wr all time? Jason Garrett as top 3 Cowboys head coach all time? Ewwww. :facepalm:
 
Garret also wasted some good teams and went 8-8 three straight years and then the bottom fell out and team quit on him toward the end.

Garrett was awful as a coach.

McCarthy had a higher win percentage than Garrett during their cowboys stints.

How many OC’s got thrown under the bus for Garrett’s failures?
The only person on the planet who has ever thought Jason Garrett was worth hiring and keeping as a HC for a decade is Jerry.

It is incredibly telling that since Garrett left Dallas at the end of the 2019 season, no one since considers him HC material at any level. Not even at the college level. Was supposedly considered for the Stanford job, Notre Dame - even University of North Texas. And no one has hired him again as a HC.

Garrett is the poster boy for our owner being willing to waste the careers of several HOFers and core talent on a guy anyone on a couch could see was no leader of men.
 
He must have grown up in the 70s. That's the only way you can believe that Bob Hayes was a better WR than Terrell Owens and a better returner than Deion Sanders.
agree here - was going to say the same
 

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