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The topic was Jerry vs Jets front office.
Cowboys fans experienced 3 Super Bowl wins in the Nineties because Jerry hired Jimmy.
Jets fans have not experienced any in that time frame (None since 1969 if I recall correctly).
First of all, people around here still don’t get it, there wouldn’t have been the same successful NFL head coach Jimmy Johnson without Jerry hiring him. They worked together on finances and trade decisions, and it’s unrealistic to act like Jimmy did it all on his own.
He didn’t replicate that success in Miami, and he never became a GM anywhere in the NFL. Jimmy and Bill Parcells both get a lot of hype for being great player personnel minds, but while they aspired to be GMs, neither ever became a standalone GM for any team before or after leaving the Cowboys.
The truth is, while they were both great head coaches, neither achieved success alone.
They worked closely with their GM and owner, whether independently or not, and the success they had come from the entire organization, top to bottom, it wasn’t just them.
Jimmy genuinely wanted to be a GM, but no one ever hired him for that role, and the same goes for Bill Parcells. Whether they acted as GMs or had some control while coaching, they were never officially hired for front office positions.
If they were truly that great, why didn’t they go work elsewhere and recreate their success by building championship team rosters, not coaching, just build the rosters and prove it.
I love Jimmy Johnson, but I think he gets too much credit while Jerry doesn’t get enough. I’m not saying Jerry should get credit for doing it all alone, but neither should Jimmy. Even if Jimmy had eventually made it into the NF, and he probably would have, he wouldn’t have had the same opportunities that came at just the right time, like the Herschel Walker trade, plus some pieces that were already in place, like half the offensive line and Michael Irvin.
For me, it was everything together: Jerry, Jimmy, the entire coaching staff, the players who were there before and after, and the perfect trades that popped up, some of it was just luck. It all came together at the right time, and since they split, neither has had the same success. That makes them equally responsible, but Jerry is the chicken before the egg, he did the hiring and made sure to help assist and approve trades.
Those are facts stop rewriting history they did it together They were great partners.
That’s why Jerry is an owner, maybe not the best GM, but it’s all the things he did for this franchise that kept it America’s Team, winning three Super Bowls compared to the two under Tom Landry. The Cowboys remain America’s Team largely because the second dynasty strengthened the first. If Jerry has a gold jacket, it’s for what he did not only for the Cowboys but for the league as a whole. Like it or not, the man deserves more credit than he gets. I’m not giving him too much credit either,
I know he’s had plenty of screw-ups since then, especially in the first five to ten years after Jimmy left.
We get it, Jerry is definitely a better GM and owner than the Cleveland Browns, Raiders, and the Jets, and all that, maybe a few others.
Since we’re talking about the Jets, I guess because of QW you’re right, but they did have a bit of success with Mark Sanchez. Sure, it was mostly the defense and the HC/DC, but Rex Ryan still managed to take them to back-to-back AFC Championship games, which is pretty impressive.
Other than that, their only real highlight was Joe Namath’s championship way back in the ’60s.
That’s why I always say Jerry isn’t the worst GM or owner in the league, and people even admit he’s not the worst in Dallas sports, there have been worse. I get why people don’t like him, but I’d rank him somewhere in the middle, maybe 15th or 16th. Calling him historically bad or the worst ever, just isn’t true!