Mayfield feels disrespected

[KingCorcoran]

I think they are. They seem to be clearly prioritizing a complete rebuild. I have no problem with that part of it. I also agree with perhaps the league as a whole is trying to reset the QB market. Yeah, I think it got out of hand particularly for the non elite players.

I still go back to the last paragraph of post 105 though. I don't see any way to bridge the gap between what some believe Baker is worth & what the market is & has been for several years. I mean we are paying other positions more than what ya'll are proposing we pay a veteran starting QB. Based on this discussion perhaps we should create a poll for what QB salaries should be.

The rising cost of quality edge rushers, wide receivers, and now defensive tackles is resetting the quarterback market. There’s only so much money left.

 

[McKDaddy]

The rising cost of quality edge rushers, wide receivers, and now defensive tackles is resetting the quarterback market. There’s only so much money left.

I am on board with a reset but there is only one most important position in sports. Whatever that number should be, every other position has to be significantly less.

 

[GINeric]

I’m not sure why you are attacking me over a difference in opinion. Dak seems to wilt consistently in big games.

Dak stat pads against little sisters of the poor and then wilts when the big games come. Then when the game is out of reach Dak stats padding stats again.

Dak is a top 1/2 of the league QB but so far he has not shown the ability to win when it counts. If Mayfield had played for the Cowboys his entire career he would probably have a SB by now.

I’m not going to attack you personally. That’s not really my style.

Usually when a person attacks a poster on this website instead of their position on something it’s an indication that they don’t have a lot of confidence in the position they themselves are taking.

I respect your opinion but I never attacked you.

 

[Rockport]

Baker's turned into a knucklehead again. I thought he had changed.

Yeah, he’s really hurting his cause. He’s got history of bouncing around.

 

[Starforever]

I don’t know why you guys think Dak can’t be replaced. We literally saw it with Romo.

Is Dak hurt?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Is Dak hurt?

Not to my knowledge.

 

[TwentyOne]

I don’t know why you guys think Dak can’t be replaced. We literally saw it with Romo.

Romo was replaced by nature. Not by Jerry.

And you did not understand the topic. The poster didnt say Dak cant be replaced. The poster said Jerry wont do it.

 

[TwentyOne]

Is Dak hurt?

He didnt get it ;-)

 

[acr731]

Romo was replaced by nature. Not by Jerry.

And you did not understand the topic. The poster didnt say Dak cant be replaced. The poster said Jerry wont do it.

In my opinion that's only partially true. Back in 2016 I sided with the camp that felt you stick with the hot hand. Romo already had an extensive injury history before 2016 and I remember being frustrated by Jerry's unwillingness to draft potential replacements. Some may say that was Dak, but I feel Dak was only a camp body who wasn't brought in as an expected replacement for Romo. Dak ended up having a good rookie season, but don't forget he was aided tremendously by the outstanding play at RB by Elliott. A stud RB having an MVP season will always help the QB look better.

Where Jerry played a part in Romo being replaced - Romo was the starter and had earned that spot. With that being said, when he was healthy enough to return he should have been allowed to move back into the QB1 spot. In my opinion, it was Jerry who blocked that move. Garrett was a massive puppet who followed Jerry's orders, so all signs point to Jerry being the culprit who ended Romo's career, with a bit of assistance from mother nature, of course.

I think I'm the one who said Jerry won't do it, and I still feel that way. Look at who Jerry has brought in at QB over the past 10 years, has a single one of the screamed "OMG! This guy could replace Dak"? None of them have. It's classic Jerry, and Jerry has been doing this since half way through Romo's career. Jerry simply doesn't want any competition at QB - at least not until he's forced into a corner by something like a broken back.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Romo was replaced by nature. Not by Jerry.

And you did not understand the topic. The poster didnt say Dak cant be replaced. The poster said Jerry wont do it.

I know what he said lol. I’m saying Jerry would do it he did it with Romo. Had nothing to do with nature. Romo was healthy enough to come back it wasn’t season ending.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

In my opinion that's only partially true. Back in 2016 I sided with the camp that felt you stick with the hot hand. Romo already had an extensive injury history before 2016 and I remember being frustrated by Jerry's unwillingness to draft potential replacements. Some may say that was Dak, but I feel Dak was only a camp body who wasn't brought in as an expected replacement for Romo. Dak ended up having a good rookie season, but don't forget he was aided tremendously by the outstanding play at RB by Elliott. A stud RB having an MVP season will always help the QB look better.

Where Jerry played a part in Romo being replaced - Romo was the starter and had earned that spot. With that being said, when he was healthy enough to return he should have been allowed to move back into the QB1 spot. In my opinion, it was Jerry who blocked that move. Garrett was a massive puppet who followed Jerry's orders, so all signs point to Jerry being the culprit who ended Romo's career, with a bit of assistance from mother nature, of course.

I think I'm the one who said Jerry won't do it, and I still feel that way. Look at who Jerry has brought in at QB over the past 10 years, has a single one of the screamed "OMG! This guy could replace Dak"? None of them have. It's classic Jerry, and Jerry has been doing this since half way through Romo's career. Jerry simply doesn't want any competition at QB - at least not until he's forced into a corner by something like a broken back.

Mind you though Dak wasn’t intended to replace Romo. Dak represented the Stephen McGee, Trey Lance, Joe Milton type pick….they drafted him with a 4th round comp pick after Charles Tapper. They just got lucky he ended up being NFL ready.

Jerry will never draft his replacement in the first round because. They consistently need those picks to hit because they don’t use free agency to fix holes.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I’m not sure why you are attacking me over a difference in opinion. Dak seems to wilt consistently in big games.

Dak stat pads against little sisters of the poor and then wilts when the big games come. Then when the game is out of reach Dak stats padding stats again.

Dak is a top 1/2 of the league QB but so far he has not shown the ability to win when it counts. If Mayfield had played for the Cowboys his entire career he would probably have a SB by now.

I’m not going to attack you personally. That’s not really my style.

Usually when a person attacks a poster on this website instead of their position on something it’s an indication that they don’t have a lot of confidence in the position they themselves are taking.

If Mayfield played for the Cowboys they would have a sb by now? Based on what? He’s had better teams and weaker divisions and can’t

 

[acr731]

Jerry will never draft his replacement in the first round because. They consistently need those picks to hit because they don’t use free agency to fix holes.

I understand the reluctance to risk a 1st round pick on a QB. But Jerry of all people should know that it could also end up being the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. The last time Dallas had the #1 overall pick (and also the last time he used a 1st on a QB, I think) he ended up with Aikman, and every Cowboys fan knows how that turned out.

Who's fault is it that Jerry needs to consistently hit on those picks? The prosecution rests...

 

[acr731]

If Mayfield played for the Cowboys they would have a sb by now? Based on what? He’s had better teams and weaker divisions and can’t

Swap Dak and Baker's teams and career and I think you would see similar results. However, swap Dak with Mahomes and KC doesn't have the success they have had. Dak simply isn't that level of a playmaker or difference maker. That's not to say Mahomes brings instant success to Dallas. Jerry is too much of a hindrance.

 

[TwentyOne]

I know what he said lol. I’m saying Jerry would do it he did it with Romo. Had nothing to do with nature. Romo was healthy enough to come back it wasn’t season ending.

Romo was done. He was an thump from the waterboy away from another seasonending injury.

Nature did that to him. And maybe his unprofessional approach preparing his body for the sport of football.

Jerry just accepted the consequences that were evident.

 

[TwentyOne]

Well just in case i did not properly state it: my post was meant to support your view. Not to question it.

But i do see the Romo siuation different.

Zeke (a good RB) was seen as the last piece the 2016 needed to compete for the big show. i would have never drafted one that high, but that was the mood back then.

In my opinion that's only partially true. Back in 2016 I sided with the camp that felt you stick with the hot hand. Romo already had an extensive injury history before 2016 and I remember being frustrated by Jerry's unwillingness to draft potential replacements. Some may say that was Dak, but I feel Dak was only a camp body who wasn't brought in as an expected replacement for Romo. Dak ended up having a good rookie season, but don't forget he was aided tremendously by the outstanding play at RB by Elliott. A stud RB having an MVP season will always help the QB look better.

I see the pick of Dak the same way. He was picked to have another camp body. I also see Daks good stats the way you do. Dak never was a good QB he looked good when supported by a strong running game. And in his rookie season, especially with a SB worthy roster, that was easy for him.

Where Jerry played a part in Romo being replaced - Romo was the starter and had earned that spot. With that being said, when he was healthy enough to return he should have been allowed to move back into the QB1 spot. In my opinion, it was Jerry who blocked that move. Garrett was a massive puppet who followed Jerry's orders, so all signs point to Jerry being the culprit who ended Romo's career, with a bit of assistance from mother nature, of course.

Well you of course can say Jerry played that part. But you have to look at the whole picture. And to me the decission was forced upon Jerry. Not vice versa.

This wasnt Romos first injury. And the hit he took wasnt that bad. His past injuries also happened (afair) by minor contact. So to have gotten the feeling the guy is brittle was justified.

Romo also was never somebody who took proper care of his body the way you should or have to if you want to endure football for a longer time. But he was always very competitive and wanted to play. Regardless of consequences.

So the situation was that you have a player from which you expect to have another season ending or at least couple of games ending injury by minor contract. Just because his body is not in good shape and he is injury prone because he had already a lot of.

But also you cant trust the player when he says he is able to play. Just because he will tell you everything to get back on the field. And believe me Romo would have told you everything you wanted to hear. Especially knowing about our roster, the chance for a ring, seeing what a bad rookie QB was able to do. What could he do with that? So near to his careers end.


No Romo was done. It was the consequences of his unprofessional approach to the sport combined with too many injuries. And if you would have put him back in the game and he got hurt again after 3 games what does that do to your hot hand? The guy is still a rookie, new to everybody. Nobody has a feel for his psyche and what benching does to him. But about Romo you could be pretty sure. You couldnt trust his body anymore. As much as Romo wantedto.

And now just imagine you decide to put him back in. After two major back injuries. The guy goes down again and has a life changing injury?! Would you like to justify your decission in front of the world?


That all together made Jerrys decission the right one. But it wasnt a decission Jerry made out of his own power. The decission was forced upon him by the circumstances.

And its a way of behaviour Jerry is authentic in. I remember when Aikman went doen with an ongoing back injury. Jerry took care. Aikman wanted to play again. But Jerry pulled to trigger. You can say a lot negative about Jerry but he protects his beloved ones.

I think I'm the one who said Jerry won't do it, and I still feel that way. Look at who Jerry has brought in at QB over the past 10 years, has a single one of the screamed "OMG! This guy could replace Dak"? None of them have. It's classic Jerry, and Jerry has been doing this since half way through Romo's career. Jerry simply doesn't want any competition at QB - at least not until he's forced into a corner by something like a broken back.

Yes, as i said in my first sentence. I suppport your view: Jerry wont do it.I dont know about the reasons why. I could of course speculate and have ideas.

And yes this franchise doesnt invest in the most important position. They "lucked" into Romo and they did again with Dak. Well i put that in quotes just because with both QBs we were lucky to find a starter when we were i dire meed of one. But both didnt do squat at the position. But we had to stick with both because - yes - we dont invest into the most important position. And thats a very big reason this franchise is as bad as it is.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I understand the reluctance to risk a 1st round pick on a QB. But Jerry of all people should know that it could also end up being the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. The last time Dallas had the #1 overall pick (and also the last time he used a 1st on a QB, I think) he ended up with Aikman, and every Cowboys fan knows how that turned out.

Who's fault is it that Jerry needs to consistently hit on those picks? The prosecution rests...

I mean it’s Jerry’s fault. Ultimately the Cowboys lack the toughness and physicality it takes to win. I mean the guy trotted guys like Tyrone Crawford and Mazi Smith as interior presences on defense.

Swap Dak and Baker's teams and career and I think you would see similar results. However, swap Dak with Mahomes and KC doesn't have the success they have had. Dak simply isn't that level of a playmaker or difference maker. That's not to say Mahomes brings instant success to Dallas. Jerry is too much of a hindrance.

So you’re telling me Dak isn’t as good as the best qb in the league? You can literally replace Mahomes with anyone and they will fight for a title more times than not lol. Yes that includes golden boys like Burrow and Josh Allen.

 

[Rockport]

I don’t know why you guys think Dak can’t be replaced. We literally saw it with Romo.

Anybody can be replaced. You just have to understand that the first 2-3 years is learning the league. That’s if you get lucky and draft a good one. Picking a QB in the draft is one of the biggest crap shoots in the NFL.

 

[Rockport]

Dudes a winner. There's no denying it.

Dudes a diva. Watch QB on Netflix.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Romo was done. He was an thump from the waterboy away from another seasonending injury.

Nature did that to him. And maybe his unprofessional approach preparing his body for the sport of football.

Jerry just accepted the consequences that were evident.

You’re revising history. He was medically cleared after 6 weeks.it wasn’t a season ending injury. If Dak got hurt Romo was getting in the game. That’s not nature. I get it sounds better than Dak taking his job but it’s not accurate.