Watkins first padded practice notes

RustyBourneHorse said:
Not only that, but Justin Houston sounds like he was in good shape, and this was just the first full pad practice. I'm getting excited for our defence. I think the offense will figure it out, but if the defence is this good against our offense and forcing the offense to adjust, then that's great!!!
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All Justin Houston does is tackle QBs. Yet, he gets next to no love. It's a universal mystery to me.
 
Whyjerry said:
All Justin Houston does is tackle QBs. Yet, he gets next to no love. It's a universal mystery to me.
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I agree. He's been really good for us since we got him, and if our front 7 AND secondary are good ALONG with our offense? Damn!! That's EXCITING news. Only question remaining (after the end of last season) is Aubrey for me. If Aubrey is back to being automatic, we might legitimately have something here.
 
RustyBourneHorse said:
I agree. He's been really good for us since we got him, and if our front 7 AND secondary are good ALONG with our offense? Damn!! That's EXCITING news. Only question remaining (after the end of last season) is Aubrey for me. If Aubrey is back to being automatic, we might legitimately have something here.
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He did the same in Detroit.
 
Whyjerry said:
All Justin Houston does is tackle QBs. Yet, he gets next to no love. It's a universal mystery to me.
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I'm assuming it mainly has to do with run defense. I haven't examined him enough to know if that is the case, but if he is abandoning his lane or his assignment to get pressure on the quarterback, then that's going to reduce playing time. It makes a player useful only in clear passing situations because a running play on third-and-4 or -5 can easily turn into a first down if one player fails to be where he's supposed to be.
 
gimmesix said:
I'm assuming it mainly has to do with run defense. I haven't examined him enough to know if that is the case, but if he is abandoning his lane or his assignment to get pressure on the quarterback, then that's going to reduce playing time. It makes a player useful only in clear passing situations because a running play on third-and-4 or -5 can easily turn into a first down if one player fails to be where he's supposed to be.
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The NFL has become very task specific. My sense is that if Houston became a pure pass rusher on 3rd downs he would be a productive guy. Too often he falls out of the rotation. I would take him over Sam Williams 365/365.
 
RustyBourneHorse said:
I mean, I'd think there'd be some like me who are taking this as a positive for the defence? With how bad our defence was, this might be good news. Especially since it sounded like our offense was very good the day before and with how good it usually is. If our offense is still really good, which I think it is, then the defence beating them today might be good news for the team as a whole.
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Yes that’s very much a positive for our defense. Good news to hear they had a day they were able to win against a phenomenal offense. My point was about people who jump off a cliff about whichever unit lost that day.
 
Jstopper said:
Yes that’s very much a positive for our defense. Good news to hear they had a day they were able to win against a phenomenal offense. My point was about people who jump off a cliff about whichever unit lost that day.
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Oh I get that. But I mean, it's practice...the first proper practice. And yeah, I'm not jumping either way. I like the fact that Parker seems to have this defence motivated and beat one of the better offenses from last year that's returning most starters.
 
Whyjerry said:
The NFL has become very task specific. My sense is that if Houston became a pure pass rusher on 3rd downs he would be a productive guy. Too often he falls out of the rotation. I would take him over Sam Williams 365/365.
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I won't argue with you there. Just trying to make sense of why he isn't used more. I would think based on the success that he seems to have that we'd try to have him on the field in all pure pass rushing situations. That wasn't the case last year. He's the guy I think should replace Gary when Gary moves inside in those situations. The other end needs to be either Lawrence or Eze, but I see Eze being out there on early downs to help set up those passing situations.

My rotation right now, based on what we know (which is limited), would be OLB Eze, DE Quinnen, NT Clark, DE Ogbonnia, OLB Gary in our 3-4 sets, DE Eze, DT Quinnen, DT Clark, DE Gary in 4-3/4-2-5 sets where a run is a real possibility and DE Lawrence, DT Quinnen, DT Gary, DE Houston in 4-2-5 (nickel/dime sets when a pass is expected). Obviously, that's not going to be exact at all times because players will rotate in to give some of the starters a rest, but my goal would be for those to be my primary groups. That could change depending a lot on the development of Eze and Lawrence.
 
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