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ThisYeah...I am gonna need to see it to believe it.
ThisYeah...I am gonna need to see it to believe it.
I don’t know where to start with your ridiculous comment so I’ll remind you that winning a division guarantees you both a playoff birth and a home playoff game, both of which put you on a path to the end goal of the season for every team.That's the equivalent of winning a game of mini golf nowadays.
And bragging to Tiger Woods about it.That's the equivalent of winning a game of mini golf nowadays.
Would you hire someone that comes to a job interview in their pajamas?Not drafting Randy Moss is Jerry's biggest all time blunder.
I'm not a big Stephen guy by any means. But to call him an unqualified amateur is a bit of a reach IMO. Regardless of how he got to the position he's in, he's been doing the job for decades. He's far from an amateur. You can't do a job for that long and not learn how to do it.Things will be somewhat better with Stephen,
But will still have an unqualified amateur running the show.
Until we hire a real GM , expect the drought to continue.
Excellent points! As far as I can tell, Stephen’s lone skill as an NFL exec (unearned as you said), is that he memorized the salary cap rules.I appreciate what DW and Troy said, I hope they're right.
But I share your concern about Junior.
I actually think Jerry has some good qualities that his son lacks, so I fear the situation will actually get worse.
If Stephen were smart, he'd say he intends to hire a professional GM. I don't see that happening, so I see most of the bad continuing, but without Jerry's talents (for building relationships, marketing etc). Jerry earned his wealth, Stephen inherited it and didn't work for it.
I'm not defending Jerry, he is a disaster as a GM, just saying I think Stephen could be worse, sadly. I hope I'm wrong.
Not even close. RW trade, tradeup for MO, Galloway trade, all cost us a ton more. Plus, we took a very good player in Greg Ellis.Not drafting Randy Moss is Jerry's biggest all time blunder.
C'mon, that's a huge reach.Excellent points! As far as I can tell, Stephen’s lone skill as an NFL exec (unearned as you said), is that he memorized the salary cap rules.
He went out of his way to remind Bill Parcells that he was in charge, so we know that is just like his dad.
Unless the opposing team’s plane crashes on route to the divisional playoff game against us, I fear we’re stranded in playoff no-man’s land with the Jones boys quite content to extend our conf championship drought into perpetuity.
Like Scarlett Johannson? Yup.Would you hire someone that comes to a job interview in their pajamas?
Agree on WillMI'm not a big Stephen guy by any means. But to call him an unqualified amateur is a bit of a reach IMO. Regardless of how he got to the position he's in, he's been doing the job for decades. He's far from an amateur. You can't do a job for that long and not learn how to do it.
Hopefully he doesn't think he's a master player evaluator like his daddy does. So I think he will hire a GM. And if it's not too many years from now, it will probably be Will McClay.
Let me explain:I'm not a big Stephen guy by any means. But to call him an unqualified amateur is a bit of a reach IMO. Regardless of how he got to the position he's in, he's been doing the job for decades. He's far from an amateur. You can't do a job for that long and not learn how to do it.
Hopefully he doesn't think he's a master player evaluator like his daddy does. So I think he will hire a GM. And if it's not too many years from now, it will probably be Will McClay.
Randy Moss was not going to get us to another SB; the team had deteriorated too much by that timeNot drafting Randy Moss is Jerry's biggest all time blunder.
And that’s exactly when the power tide shifted, and became even greater soon thereafter when it was clear Martin was headed to the HOF, while Manziel was a disaster.“I hope you’re happy,” Stephen remembers his father telling him that night, face red, jaw clenched. “You don’t do special things in life — I would have never bought the Dallas Cowboys— making middle-of-the-road decisions. And what you just did is down the middle.
“You’ll never be great.”
Jerry apologized after the Cowboys turned in the pick, but the decision ate at him for months. The guard they drafted, Zack Martin, became a nine-time Pro Bowler and one of the best offensive linemen of his generation. Manziel washed out of the league in two years.
Very long article about the transition from Jerry to Stephen. No claims a real GM will be hired. Just that Stephen has no ego issues and will cut out a lot of the nonsense around the organization.
Recommended read.
The approach has irked some former players. Woodson, whose commercial real estate firm rents office space at The Star, the Cowboys’ 91-acre practice facility that doubles as an exorbitant entertainment and business venture, puts it this way: “The team keeps making emotional decisions. They keep guys because Jerry likes them personally. I don’t think that leash will be as long with Stephen.”
Aikman sees it, too. “From my interactions with him, Stephen doesn’t have the ego his father has. That’ll serve him well.”
The franchise under Stephen Jones, Aikman believes, will look and feel more like a typical NFL team, one where the owner doesn’t insist on playing the role of main character. “Stephen will be less inclined to want to get all the credit,” he says. “And I think he’ll create an environment conducive to winning.”
Had Stephen been in charge, Woodson believes, quarterback Dak Prescott and wideout CeeDee Lamb would’ve been extended months earlier than they were, saving the Cowboys tens of millions — but depriving them of months of headlines. Last year’s Micah Parsons trade? Woodson says the talented edge rusher would’ve been shipped out of town a lot sooner if Stephen were calling the shots.
“I guarantee you Stephen wanted that to be a dead issue, and dad let it ride,” Woodson says of the Parsons back-and-forth, which dragged on for months and ended with the Cowboys sending him to Green Bay last August for two first-round picks and tackle Kenny Clark. “I think the off-the-field stuff the organization had to deal with — showing up late, not being a team guy, paying a guy that kind of money when he’s not really a leader? Yeah, that s— ain’t flying.
“Jerry loves personalities, because Jerry is a personality,” Woodson continues. “I don’t think that’s Stephen’s deal.”
Stephen’s deal? Restraint. Rigidity. A weakness, he calls it, if he’s not careful.
“With agents these days, you give them an inch and they’ll take a mile,” Stephen says. He doesn’t like giving an inch, never has. “If a deal’s within striking distance, Jerry will lose this point and this point and this point and if it gets done, he’ll live with it. It’ll eat at me a little more.”
Hell yes for that level of talent.Would you hire someone that comes to a job interview in their pajamas?
Very long article about the transition from Jerry to Stephen. No claims a real GM will be hired. Just that Stephen has no ego issues and will cut out a lot of the nonsense around the organization.
Recommended read.
The approach has irked some former players. Woodson, whose commercial real estate firm rents office space at The Star, the Cowboys’ 91-acre practice facility that doubles as an exorbitant entertainment and business venture, puts it this way: “The team keeps making emotional decisions. They keep guys because Jerry likes them personally. I don’t think that leash will be as long with Stephen.”
Aikman sees it, too. “From my interactions with him, Stephen doesn’t have the ego his father has. That’ll serve him well.”
The franchise under Stephen Jones, Aikman believes, will look and feel more like a typical NFL team, one where the owner doesn’t insist on playing the role of main character. “Stephen will be less inclined to want to get all the credit,” he says. “And I think he’ll create an environment conducive to winning.”
Had Stephen been in charge, Woodson believes, quarterback Dak Prescott and wideout CeeDee Lamb would’ve been extended months earlier than they were, saving the Cowboys tens of millions — but depriving them of months of headlines. Last year’s Micah Parsons trade? Woodson says the talented edge rusher would’ve been shipped out of town a lot sooner if Stephen were calling the shots.
“I guarantee you Stephen wanted that to be a dead issue, and dad let it ride,” Woodson says of the Parsons back-and-forth, which dragged on for months and ended with the Cowboys sending him to Green Bay last August for two first-round picks and tackle Kenny Clark. “I think the off-the-field stuff the organization had to deal with — showing up late, not being a team guy, paying a guy that kind of money when he’s not really a leader? Yeah, that s— ain’t flying.
“Jerry loves personalities, because Jerry is a personality,” Woodson continues. “I don’t think that’s Stephen’s deal.”
Stephen’s deal? Restraint. Rigidity. A weakness, he calls it, if he’s not careful.
“With agents these days, you give them an inch and they’ll take a mile,” Stephen says. He doesn’t like giving an inch, never has. “If a deal’s within striking distance, Jerry will lose this point and this point and this point and if it gets done, he’ll live with it. It’ll eat at me a little more.”
I agree. I think anything short of 50 years is jumping to conclusions.The blind hate so many "fans" have for these guys is pretty ridiculous.
To sit here and criticize everything they do and attack them personally, to act like you know them and how they do their jobs, how things will be in the future when JJ is out is just stupid.
I agree he skipped the steps to get where he is and that's not good. But he's been there so long now he's definitely not an amateur.Let me explain:
Most football excutives come up through the ranks and earn their promotions by leaning the details and nuances of their different jobs and excelling over their peers.
Since Stephen has none of that track record he is an amatuer in my humble opinion.
