Signed by Cowboys Spann-Ford reaches agreement on a three-year contract extension

Jarntt said:
I am absolutely of the opinion that they overpaid. That doesn't mean I dispute that the coaches know more than me :huh:
It also doesn't mean that they are correct in this case nor does it mean I'm bent out of shape over it. It's a discussion
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I never said you were bent.

And yes...it is a discussion and I appreciate it!

I'm TRYING to follow your logic. You say they overpaid based on previous performance (lack of, really, right?). That would indicate you dispute coaches/execs decision/knowledge.

And no...of course it doesn't mean it will fully pay off. It's all a gamble. Even giving Dak that money is a placed bet that he'll pay off.

All I did was posit that they might know more than us (they do), and that maybe they have longer term plans (like ditching Schoon)...and want to lock him in longterm.

As I said...we shall see. I'm sure neither one of us will remember this conversation by then. Let's hope for the best!
 
Thank God and all the heavens. I dont think we can win a SB without him. This is much needed. TE's also really make teh difference. this will surely put us over the hump. worth every dollar. we ll see mad returns on this contract.
 
I can only go by what I see on the field. Coaches must really like what they see in him. That being said, with him getting a commitment, I hope to see him do more than block this year. Those of you so ready to see Ferguson go, I am glad we have him. We now have the TE position locked up for the next several years.That is a good thing. Now, Hopefully Trigg becomes more than practice squad fodder. Ferguson is perfect for this team. You cant have an absolute beast at every position. Hell.....look at all the talk about not being able to afford Lamb and pickens. Imagine having Bowers, Lamb, and Pickens. Cant happen... so Ferguson is the perfect security blanket for Dak IMO.
 
Reid1boys said:
I can only go by what I see on the field. Coaches must really like what they see in him. That being said, with him getting a commitment, I hope to see him do more than block this year. Those of you so ready to see Ferguson go, I am glad we have him. We now have the TE position locked up for the next several years.That is a good thing. Now, Hopefully Trigg becomes more than practice squad fodder. Ferguson is perfect for this team. You cant have an absolute beast at every position. Hell.....look at all the talk about not being able to afford Lamb and pickens. Imagine having Bowers, Lamb, and Pickens. Cant happen... so Ferguson is the perfect security blanket for Dak IMO.
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its a smart move OR just solves the problem so other problems can be worked on. you dont need 50 fires, i dont like the pay. I think all sports need to say "enough is enough" you want to overpay, fine, pay them fair, put in for a health coverage program, than we ll see some paying done
 
ShiningStar said:
its a smart move OR just solves the problem so other problems can be worked on. you dont need 50 fires, i dont like the pay. I think all sports need to say "enough is enough" you want to overpay, fine, pay them fair, put in for a health coverage program, than we ll see some paying done
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I am willing to pay more for NFL football than just about anything. There is not much in my life during the year that I enjoy more than the NFL. So why shouldnt those guys get their fair share? I would give up movies forever if I had to chose between that and NFL. This is BY FAR, my favorite time of the year. I just cancelled cable, installed a home server and a rooftop antenna just because of the NFL. I couldnt cancel cable unles Ihad the NFL situation handled.
 
Reid1boys said:
I am willing to pay more for NFL football than just about anything. There is not much in my life during the year that I enjoy more than the NFL. So why shouldnt those guys get their fair share? I would give up movies forever if I had to chose between that and NFL. This is BY FAR, my favorite time of the year. I just cancelled cable, installed a home server and a rooftop antenna just because of the NFL. I couldnt cancel cable unles Ihad the NFL situation handled.
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just made my point.
 
ShiningStar said:
its a smart move OR just solves the problem so other problems can be worked on. you dont need 50 fires, i dont like the pay. I think all sports need to say "enough is enough" you want to overpay, fine, pay them fair, put in for a health coverage program, than we ll see some paying done
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Would be interesting if salary could be part ownership Ala Bron.

With Dallas worth, signing someone like Dak, Pickens, CD, Downs etc and giving them a fraction of ownership.

Not sure how that would work clearly no trade clause put in place. Vested owners only limited to select positions or number of players etc.
 
Jarntt said:
But that doesn't take away from the fact that we overpaid
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Why are you saying we overpaid w/o knowing their 3-year plan for him? Let's put it this way, if they let Ferg walk after this season and Spann-Ford becomes our new starting TE, would you still think he's overpaid? Ferg has no guaranteed money left on his contract after this season. He's the 5th highest-paid TE. They can exercise 7M gaurantee by the new league year.

We have to remember coaches have a much closer view of players in practices and meeting rooms that we as fans do not. Giving him a new THREE-year deal tells me they're expecting big things. I'm guessing they may see him potentially as a complete TE. He was always a good blocker. Perhaps Schotty and Wells ( TE coach) believe he can take his pass-catching to the next level.

In other words, I don't see this as an overpay at all........the kid is 6'6. Imagine, a starting TE who is like another O-lineman with solid pass-catching skills.




https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/77006/jake-ferguson

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/_/sort/value/dir/desc/position/te
 
Hawkeye0202 said:
Why are you saying we overpaid w/o knowing their 3-year plan for him? Let's put it this way, if they let Ferg walk after this season and Spann-Ford becomes our new starting TE, would you still think he's overpaid? Ferg has no guaranteed money left on his contract after this season. He's the 5th highest-paid TE. They can exercise 7M gaurantee by the new league year.

We have to remember coaches have a much closer view of players in practices and meeting rooms that we as fans do not. Giving him a new THREE-year deal tells me they're expecting big things. I'm guessing they may see him potentially as a complete TE. He was always a good blocker. Perhaps Schotty and Wells ( TE coach) believe he can take his pass-catching to the next level.

In other words, I don't see this as an overpay at all........the kid is 6'6. Imagine, a starting TE who is like another O-lineman with solid pass-catching skills.




https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/77006/jake-ferguson

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/_/sort/value/dir/desc/position/te
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Yes
 
If he plays all of 2027 and we cut him, his new money cost us $7.8M
If he plays 2027 and 2028 and we cut him, his new money cost us $12M
If he plays thru 2029 his new money cost us $18M
 
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