So much for the vaunted rookie class

[HungryLion]

They’re rookies in their first games. It takes time for most rookies.


Mind you, the ROOT PROBLEM is that our front office consistently and regularly puts the roster in a position where they are relying on rookies to be impact players. It’s poor strategy.

 

[LouBrown]

I said this before week one. Remember when Mazi and Taco were low producers in college, but had NFL bodies. We are here again.

I don't care if you said it in April, it's dumb.

Jacas is a monster athlete and had a RAS over 9 I don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Redsfan_83]

Let's remember that the world remembers the 3 headed mosnters in OSU last year, and they ranked 1 overall in D playing together on an incredible unit. Down along will not change the culture of this D, and BTW, for those hating on Styles, he looked amazing vs the Iggles...he killed Brakley, and led the team in TFL. But he sucked in preseason...lol. Downs will be fine once he is surrounded by actuall football players guys

 

[Whyjerry]

I'd say everyone of them played well below than what was expected tonight.....Sure looks like Parker had all of them playing out of position tonight. Barham was on the edge mostly tonight...when he was tearing it up in the preseason playing ILBer.

Downs....Had one big hit....But for the most part was invisible.

But for me personally the biggest disappointment was Lawrence. He looked just like Sam Williams out there...giving away the edge. Losing sight of the football. Looked like nothing like the stud edge rusher @ UCF. I know it was his first game...but damn. That kid has to play better if we are gonna make this defense work. He's the guy that's gonna have be the pressure player this defense needs.

Coaching. It's a cupcake culture.

 

[KingCorcoran]

They’re rookies in their first games. It takes time for most rookies.


Mind you, the ROOT PROBLEM is that our front office consistently and regularly puts the roster in a position where they are relying on rookies to be impact players. It’s poor strategy.

I get “first games” and all, but I can see why the Commanders opted to select Styles. It was his first game, too. Cowboys get to see him in his second game.

 

[HungryLion]

I get “first games” and all, but I can see why the Commanders opted to select Styles. It was his first game, too. Cowboys get to see him in his second game.

Sure. But he’s also top 10 pick.

Downs was good in his first game too.

But there are going to be growing pains for most rookies is my point. You can’t keep relying on rookies year after year

 

[Rayman70]

we put the d in bad spots all night too. Meaning the offensive gameplan was terrible. The plan seemed to be to beat them at their own game. We took the cheese. This is on Shotty. Our bread and butter is up tempo passing, spreading out defenses making them guess. We did none of that. We were very milk toast and predictable. We are not a ground and pound team. We are a fast break offense predicated on us passing first THEN the run.

 

[My3Sons]

I don't care if you said it in April, it's dumb.

Jacas is a monster athlete and had a RAS over 9 I don't know what you're talking about.

Jacas is a good NFL athlete and great player/producer in college. Our pick ran a 4.52 in the 40. That was elite and 3rd overall barely trailing Reese and Bailey. You keep calling me dumb, but are yet to state a reasonable case in your disagreement. Jacas should have been the pick. Everyone should temper expectations on Lawrence. If he had 7 sacks at UCF, how many does he get when he jumps up to the NFL talent level? I would guess 4 or 5 will be a good mark for over/under.

This was your take I pushed back on, "Lawrence just looked like every other rookie edge."

I posted an article praising the play of another rookie edge in his first game. You then called me dumb. See the irony?

 

[LouBrown]

Jacas is a good NFL athlete and great player/producer in college. Our pick ran a 4.52 in the 40. That was elite and 3rd overall barely trailing Reese and Bailey. You keep calling me dumb, but are yet to state a reasonable case in your disagreement. Jacas should have been the pick. Everyone should temper expectations on Lawrence. If he had 7 sacks at UCF, how many does he get when he jumps up to the NFL talent level? I would guess 4 or 5 will be a good mark for over/under.

This was your take I pushed back on, "Lawrence just looked like every other rookie edge."

I posted an article praising the play of another rookie edge in his first game. You then called me dumb. See the irony?

I called you dumb bc you said Jacas was a better pick based on one week

 

[My3Sons]

I called you dumb bc you said Jacas was a better pick based on one week

You should reread. I said that I stated it before week one. Try to keep up, Lou!

 

[LouBrown]

You should reread. I said that I stated it before week one. Try to keep up, Lou!

Yes and it was dumb to state it then too.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Not just the rookie class. The young guys didn’t take that next step either. EZE, Revel, Liufau, Carson, Overshown, Schoonmaker. There’s not a lot of young talent with a high ceiling other than Downs. Similar with the veterans, there’s not a lot of veteran talent with a high ceiling other than Q Williams, and even he hasn’t “canceled out” losing Micah.

 

[75boyz]

Not just the rookie class. The young guys didn’t take that next step either. EZE, Revel, Liufau, Carson, Overshown, Schoonmaker. There’s not a lot of young talent with a high ceiling other than Downs. Similar with the veterans, there’s not a lot of veteran talent with a high ceiling other than Q Williams, and even he hasn’t “canceled out” losing Micah.

Excellent post. Spot on.

 

[My3Sons]

Lawrence just looked like every other rookie edge.

 

[LouBrown]

Ok? He played 19 snaps and had like 3 good plays. Is this supposed to change my mind?

 

[Cowboyz88]

Barham's "business decision" instead of dropping the hammer at the end of the game was disheartening.