Did the Cowboys overpay for Porter?

[Diehardblues]

You can rest assured he and his agent will not play a 2027 game with only $7M guaranteed money

Then he’ll sit.

 

[blueblood70]

You responded to me, but not about anything I said. I think Pickens is a top tier WR.

No you said you can't get a top tier player for a lower round pick Unless I was reading somebody else's response or you were being facetious I'll go back and read it but I was just saying that's wrong You can get a top tier corner for a second round pick if you can get a top tier wide receiver for a 3rd round pick I'm just saying yes deals can be made deals are made and sometimes kind of how the Cowboys were in a tough position and only got a 5th round pick for Amari but there were reasons for that But people think we got robbed we didn't sometimes you just have to get rid of a player because of a salary that he doesn't fit and you just get what you can.

If I'm wrong that you said that OK I'll take it back if not then I stand my ground Joey Porter Junior's worth A second for one we get to see a 14 game long job interview but again even if he doesn't workout we flat out let him go and release him we get a 3rd round comp pick this is a low risk deal but yes good players can be had for deals it just doesn't usually happen with the Cowboys but the last couple of seasons the Cowboys have shown they've made some really good deals At least they're fair they're not getting robbed.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I don't have a major issue with the value the Cowboys gave up in the trade. I do have concerns about how close the Cowboys are to competing for a championship and if this move puts them into true conention though.

That doesn't bother me that much coz we STILL have our 2027 1st AND 2nd round picks.....
We can still add 2 high-level players next season

 

[Dorsett99Yards]

And then what do we do if we don't have a good edge rusher?

This draft is loaded with OLB. We could easily draft two guys that can put M. Lawrence slow butt on the bench. The problem is R. Gary. I don't think they are ready to part ways with him just yet.

 

[blueblood70]

That doesn't bother me that much coz we STILL have our 2027 1st AND 2nd round picks.....
We can still add 2 high-level players next season

and likely gp is gone for anther 1st or a few 2s. they will be fine..odd whne the rams trade away all there firsts for decade its strategic , if the cowboys do it , its from the dumb Jones' lmao..

That is what our fan base does they will never let Jerry have any credit for anything so they'll pee on all his moves even if it's a good move even if it's a good deal they don't want to admit it they're hoping for failure is what's worse they wanna go watch these games they hope JPJ is gonna have a horrible game today so they could just say see we were right it was a bad trade even though it be his first game with the Cowboys and he's been sitting all offseason waiting for a deal and he's been sitting all offseason waiting for a deal.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Then he’ll sit.

He won't sit .........you know better. It's not this; it's just showing up on a radar. It's already part of their potential 1-3 year plan. Lamb and his agent know it as well as Pickens. In fact, I remember reading a quote from Lamb that this could be their final year playing together.

 

[thunderpimp91]

That doesn't bother me that much coz we STILL have our 2027 1st AND 2nd round picks.....
We can still add 2 high-level players next season

We will see. Still need to determine if JPJ is a rental or not. I’m not sure the tag is a sure thing in this situation.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

likely gp is gone for anther 1st or a few 2s

This is def a possibility .........

 

[Hawkeye0202]

We will see. Still need to determine if JPJ is a rental or not. I’m not sure the tag is a sure thing in this situation.

I agree 100%.......to be honest, I'm not sure they KNOW as of today. I think a lot will depend on whether or not he is as good a fit for CP system as CP claims.

 

[blueblood70]

This is def a possibility .........

I'm just saying it's more likely than not that if you are gonna choose between the two Pickens is gone but the likelihood of both of them been gone or are definitely possibility But if JPJ pay plays like he is supposed to play we don't need to see a bunch of interceptions what we need to see is solid consistent play to where the other teams not trying to throw over there i'm not saying total lockdown I'm just saying that he helps take away an option it's gonna help the defense that he might stay.

But I'm looking at it is we're gonna definitely get more draft capital from either one of these guys or both so we're not worried about this and it's a stacked draft the Cowboys need to worry about today's game Fans need to worry about today's game I I'm not even worried about Thursday's game I think it's against the Buccaneers look just stay in the now let's play out the season and we'll worry about the rest of this later..

 

[thunderpimp91]

I agree 100%.......to be honest, I'm not sure they KNOW as of today. I think a lot will depend on whether or not he is as good a fit for CP system as CP claims.

Yep. I view it as a high reward/ medium risk type of move. It’ll just be odd if JPJ ends up as an OK player and we don’t really have a clear path for him. The ceiling is certainly there though.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Yep. I view it as a high reward/ medium risk type of move. It’ll just be odd if JPJ ends up as an OK player and we don’t really have a clear path for him. The ceiling is certainly there though.

I think there's a good chance we will see the same player he was with the Steelers. Don't expect a lot of interceptions but he can hold his own against some of the best WRs.

 

[Jarntt]

Both points are just plain stupid.

Overpaid because he isn't top tier is funny:
Top tier return: Sauce Gardner - TWO 1st round picks and Adonai Mitchell
Porter: a second and a 6th
What a moronic comparison to try and make. Those returns are MILES apart

and as far as the comments of bidding against themselves: Lions head coach Dan Campbell conceded Friday that Detroit was “in on” Porter

Clickity Click Click Click bait...

 

[blueblood70]

I think there's a good chance we will see the same player he was with the Steelers. Don't expect a lot of interceptions but he can hold his own against some of the best WRs.

I mean going all the way back to Richard you know they're DC that we elevated but really they've been looking for a big physical outside corner He's not a tweener with a really long wingspan who's physical and likes to tackle I mean this is the dude and just maybe Revel can learn something from him and he's got the same body but he ain't got the same game but yes I'll take steady consistent over Flash any day I mean it's nice that we saw a bland and digs have all those flashy plays that led to absolutely nothing when we played better teams and especially in the playoffs all that disappeared..

 

[fivetwos]

For a 14 game rental? Way overpaid. Kneejerk reaction by Jerry.

Could end up being the case, but at least they appear to be a little more serious about getting over the top, even if they aren’t all that great at it.

Let’s see what happens.

 

[rambo2]

Hes a top 10 cover corner.

He is not a ball Hawk.

A second in 2028 is the equivalent of a 3rd in 2027 per draft trading charts.

If he isn't extended they likely pick up a 3 for a compensatory pick.

This is stupid.

He has given up 1 touchdown in his entire career.

 

[speedkilz88]

1. Pat Surtain II, Denver Broncos
Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 5
Age: 26 | Last year's ranking: 1

2. Derek Stingley Jr., Houston Texans
Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 6
Age: 25 | Last year's ranking: 2

3. Christian Gonzalez, New England Patriots
Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: 10
Age: 24 | Last year's ranking: 6

4. Devon Witherspoon, Seattle Seahawks
Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: 9
Age: 25 | Last year's ranking: 10

5. Trent McDuffie, Los Angeles Rams
Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 25 | Last year's ranking: 4

6. Quinyon Mitchell, Philadelphia Eagles
Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 24 | Last year's ranking: 9

It's only a matter of time before Mitchell cracks the top three. In just two seasons, Mitchell has worked his way into first-team All-Pro status with 29 pass deflections.

"Well-rounded coverage game and very competitive against the opposing team's No. 1," an AFC executive said. "Turnover production holds him back from the top of the group for me. Still an excellent player."

Mitchell has yet to record his first NFL interception. The greats are paid to get the ball. But Mitchell's metrics are undeniable.

He allowed 4.8 yards per target in coverage last season, according to NFL Next Gen Stats, third best in the NFL among 87 defensive backs who were targeted at least 50 times. His minus-0.16 expected points added is tied for fourth among cornerbacks last season (minimum 75 targets faced). He has allowed 1.8 yards after the catch per reception, the fewest among corners. And his 42% tight-window throw rate was the highest in the NFL.

The Eagles had gone 22 years without drafting a cornerback in the first round before selecting Mitchell 22nd overall in 2024. The move has paid off for general manager Howie Roseman in a major way.

"Sticky man-to-man guy," a veteran NFL defensive coach said. "He's tough. Plays smart in big moments. Connected at the point of attack, which is one of the hardest things to ask for on a consistent basis. Will continue to get better and better."

7. Denzel Ward, Cleveland Browns
Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 29 | Last year's ranking: 3

8. Jaycee Horn, Carolina Panthers
Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 26 | Last year's ranking: 7

9. Sauce Gardner, Indianapolis Colts
Highest ranking: 5 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 24 | Last year's ranking: 5

10. Cooper DeJean, Philadelphia Eagles
Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 23 | Last year's ranking: Unranked


Honorable mention

Kamari Lassiter, Houston Texans: "Really good ball skills, not the fastest but ultracompetitive. A little more size and speed, and he might be the best." -- NFC offensive coach

"The best No. 2 corner in the league" -- NFC defensive coach

Joey Porter Jr., Pittsburgh Steelers: "He takes all the stress off the pass defense. He matches the best receiver in man coverage, and teams roll away from him in zone." -- NFC defensive coach

A.J. Terrell Jr., Atlanta Falcons: "He's been really good for a long time. He just can't get the ball [with six interceptions in six NFL seasons]." -- Veteran NFL defensive coach

Jaylon Johnson, Chicago Bears: "Time on task has been an issue. He missed a lot of camp and game action. But he's young (27), so he should be able to get back to his top form. He's got juice when he's full tilt." -- NFL personnel evaluator

Also receiving votes: DJ Turner II, Marlon Humphrey, Alontae Taylor, DaRon Bland, Kool-Aid McKinstry, Travis Hunter, Tyson Campbell, Byron Murphy Jr., Deommodore Lenoir, Riq Woolen

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-top-10-cornerbacks-2026-execs-coaches-scouts

 

[Hawkeye0202]

1. Pat Surtain II, Denver Broncos
Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 5
Age: 26 | Last year's ranking: 1

2. Derek Stingley Jr., Houston Texans
Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 6
Age: 25 | Last year's ranking: 2

3. Christian Gonzalez, New England Patriots
Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: 10
Age: 24 | Last year's ranking: 6

4. Devon Witherspoon, Seattle Seahawks
Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: 9
Age: 25 | Last year's ranking: 10

5. Trent McDuffie, Los Angeles Rams
Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 25 | Last year's ranking: 4

6. Quinyon Mitchell, Philadelphia Eagles
Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 24 | Last year's ranking: 9

It's only a matter of time before Mitchell cracks the top three. In just two seasons, Mitchell has worked his way into first-team All-Pro status with 29 pass deflections.

"Well-rounded coverage game and very competitive against the opposing team's No. 1," an AFC executive said. "Turnover production holds him back from the top of the group for me. Still an excellent player."

Mitchell has yet to record his first NFL interception. The greats are paid to get the ball. But Mitchell's metrics are undeniable.

He allowed 4.8 yards per target in coverage last season, according to NFL Next Gen Stats, third best in the NFL among 87 defensive backs who were targeted at least 50 times. His minus-0.16 expected points added is tied for fourth among cornerbacks last season (minimum 75 targets faced). He has allowed 1.8 yards after the catch per reception, the fewest among corners. And his 42% tight-window throw rate was the highest in the NFL.

The Eagles had gone 22 years without drafting a cornerback in the first round before selecting Mitchell 22nd overall in 2024. The move has paid off for general manager Howie Roseman in a major way.

"Sticky man-to-man guy," a veteran NFL defensive coach said. "He's tough. Plays smart in big moments. Connected at the point of attack, which is one of the hardest things to ask for on a consistent basis. Will continue to get better and better."

7. Denzel Ward, Cleveland Browns
Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 29 | Last year's ranking: 3

8. Jaycee Horn, Carolina Panthers
Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 26 | Last year's ranking: 7

9. Sauce Gardner, Indianapolis Colts
Highest ranking: 5 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 24 | Last year's ranking: 5

10. Cooper DeJean, Philadelphia Eagles
Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: Unranked
Age: 23 | Last year's ranking: Unranked


Honorable mention

Kamari Lassiter, Houston Texans: "Really good ball skills, not the fastest but ultracompetitive. A little more size and speed, and he might be the best." -- NFC offensive coach

"The best No. 2 corner in the league" -- NFC defensive coach

Joey Porter Jr., Pittsburgh Steelers: "He takes all the stress off the pass defense. He matches the best receiver in man coverage, and teams roll away from him in zone." -- NFC defensive coach

A.J. Terrell Jr., Atlanta Falcons: "He's been really good for a long time. He just can't get the ball [with six interceptions in six NFL seasons]." -- Veteran NFL defensive coach

Jaylon Johnson, Chicago Bears: "Time on task has been an issue. He missed a lot of camp and game action. But he's young (27), so he should be able to get back to his top form. He's got juice when he's full tilt." -- NFL personnel evaluator

Also receiving votes: DJ Turner II, Marlon Humphrey, Alontae Taylor, DaRon Bland, Kool-Aid McKinstry, Travis Hunter, Tyson Campbell, Byron Murphy Jr., Deommodore Lenoir, Riq Woolen

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-top-10-cornerbacks-2026-execs-coaches-scouts

Good post

 

[MikeT22]

Hes a top 10 cover corner.

He is not a ball Hawk.

A second in 2028 is the equivalent of a 3rd in 2027 per draft trading charts.

If he isn't extended they likely pick up a 3 for a compensatory pick.

This is stupid.

Despite the trade charts, in 2028 we will be without our 2nd rd pick. If he leaves as a FA we could receive a comp pick at the bottom of the 3rd. That isn’t equivalent to a 2nd.

 

[speedkilz88]

Despite the trade charts, in 2028 we will be without our 2nd rd pick. If he leaves as a FA we could receive a comp pick at the bottom of the 3rd. That isn’t equivalent to a 2nd.

We will have him this year and most likely next year on the franchise tag though.