Signed by Cowboys Mike Pettine to join Cowboys staff

[Hadenough]

This feels like a Monte Kiffin moment. Jerry forgot he’s played this card before and it didn’t work.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I have nothing more than a rudimentary awareness of Leonard. I don't recall saying anything but I'm sure if I did it wasn't anywhere near the level of praise that was being given to CP.

I remember people being optimistic about CP but I mostly remember people wanting us to wait for Leonard. A lot of people didn’t like CP
Because he didn’t have any coaching experience and while Leonard had some at I think Wisconsin.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This feels like a Monte Kiffin moment. Jerry forgot he’s played this card before and it didn’t work.

I was thinking it was like when we brought Bob Mcadoo in.

 

[DuncanIso]

CP's replacement?

Yes.

8)

 

[BigD5]

Long-time NFL coach Mike Pettine is joining the Cowboys defensive staff, reuniting with coordinator Christian Parker. As the Packers defensive coordinator form 2018-20, Pettine gave Parker his first job in the NFL in 2019. When hired, Parker attempted to talk Pettine out of retirement. Now six weeks into the season, Parker has a veteran coach as a sounding board.

Jerry will do anything to avoid bad optics or paying average pay for good coaches. He would hire 50 coaches for 100k a year before he hired a head coach for 15 million a year

 

[Homer]

possibly too little too late but hopefully not.

 

[blueblood70]

A caveat here is that Pettine was defensive coordinator with the Jets only in name, and he had his most success there because the defense was actually ran by the head coach, Rex Ryan. The success of the Jets got Pettine his next job with the Bills, and the results were middling. He then had a bad head coaching stint with the Browns before returning as a middling DC with the Packers.

The numbers his defenses have had when he's been the coordinator (without Rex Ryan) don't put him in the same class with Flores. I like doing something here, and am OK with the hire, but it's not like we hired someone who used to regularly produce No. 1 defenses. The only time he did that was with the Jets, and it was Ryan's defense. Pettine was just his righthand man.

Actually he's in the same role he'll have here But don't you think he learned something you are weird you think that all that time he worked under Rex Ryan and others it wasn't just Rex Ryan he also had a large role with the Packers that's where he met Parker you might want to look at his resume closer He still was in the same capacity or higher he also was a head coach and his defense is at the time he was a head coach we're pretty good with the Browns I believe doesn't mean he was a good head coach but it means his defenses were always pretty good with the Browns..

You don't role here Senior defensive assistant - He is just going to help bridge the gap that Parker is having with the rest of his coaches and players to get this defense installed and help help everybody understand it better and for what I understand he is gonna be on the sidelines why parker is going to try being up in the booth so they'll have two views both don't have the defense should be ran and they'll have some ideas they can bounce off each other and then quickly get it to the players and make adjustments as needed throughout games or even series..

Somehow you think these guys just forget everything they learned from others that they worked with running this 34 it's a 34 parker wants a 34 these players in some of the other people that are still here are not picking it up quick enough this is just one more bridge to help expedite that and if you don't get it he's not taking over the team this is not a threat to Parker this is just help that's it I don't understand as we go on get a JPJ That's to help the actual defense now this is the same type of move just to help the coaching staff bridge the gap the communication to the players that's it..

It is seriously just like having extra help to try and improve the defense that's it people are overreacting in every way and hey I'm not shocked most y'all overreact you over criticize everything's negative it's not going to work it's dumb and then you come up with all these theories no they're simply helping the defense that's it least they're going to try to there's no guaranteed moves but at least it is a move..

 

[blueblood70]

I don't think this is about his tenure in the NFL (which started in 2019), so your question is moot.

I'm suggesting it's about the male ego. He's the DC. A demotion won't set well with him. So, the approach the Cowboys are taking is giving Parker a "senior advisor". That gives CP help and protects his ego.

We'll see how long this lasts, but it signals the front office has identified a problem with the defensive coaching leadership.

He's not a senior advisor he's senior defensive assistant he's basically going to be Parker's right hand man A guy to help bridge the gap to get this 34 communicated to the team it is not a consultant job it is not an advisor it is simply help Apparently they're gonna be on game day Mike is gonna possibly be on the sideline and I heard Parker's gonna try it from the booth and now he has someone down there he can trust That's it It's communication thing an extra pair of eyes..

Is just another assistant on the defense it just happens to be a senior assistant that is it assistant is still in his job title not advisor and not consultant

 

[IceStar-D7]

You can't coach choirboys...Dallas have no Dawgs on defense minus Barham. And what did they do to him. Be more kind to the press-talk to them Williams looking like he'd be a great guy to have cheese burgers with.Along with anybody else on the defensive line. I challenge someone to name a Dawg other than Barham. My Boy from Ohio State he's even moved toward the softer end since joining Dallas-Down. I don't know what they putting in the food. But we need more T-rexes out there. We already have a Lamb. I almost forgot Porter. But we shall see about him.

 

[Floatyworm]

Excellent. I don't know if it will help, but at least they're trying.

According to AI results (never know what you're going to get), Pettine's specialty is exactly what we need (pressure)

Mike Pettine's specialty as a defensive coordinator centers on a 3-4 defensive system built around aggressive blitzing, press-man coverage, and foundational roots from the Rex Ryan/Baltimore Ravens defensive coaching tree

Well...I guess we will see what happens...personally have never been a fan of switching coaches mid season. Let's be honest...because this is what this is...a coaching change....and hopefully a scheme change. Parker was hell bent on stopping the run with 6 guys...and that was a bad concept from the minute I heard it...Had a feeling this was gonna blow up in our faces. Now let's see if we actually get aggressive for once....blitz...play man under...with some cover 2 help over the top. I wanna see CBs start jumping some routes...instead of sitting back and letting backs and WRs catch the football

 

[Rockport]

Pettine is not going to make a difference, he stinks

I’m willing to give him a chance.

 

[Rockport]

We said it couldn’t get any worse before the season started. How did that turn out?

They got worse.

 

[doomsday808]

No.

Again Parker wanted Petine to join staff when he was hired. Petine opted to stay retired. Todd archer reported then that Petine had an open invitation.

Im not sure why a young first time DC struggling seeking help is viewed as a bad thing.

 

[doomsday808]

It's definitely not a bad thing. But it does show the due diligence of the front office.

 

[Joe Realist]

Three straight losses, huh? That’s tough.

Cowboys have not lost three in a row yet

 

[Risen Star]

 

[ColoradoCowboy]

Thanks for the honesty.

/hangs head I also thought that Matt Eberflus would be great.

He seems to be doing OK with the 49ers, so maybe it's just the Cowboys team itself that is the problem. Draft stupid players, or slow ones, or good ones and then make them change positions....

 

[FVSTONE]

Long-time NFL coach Mike Pettine is joining the Cowboys defensive staff, reuniting with coordinator Christian Parker. As the Packers defensive coordinator form 2018-20, Pettine gave Parker his first job in the NFL in 2019. When hired, Parker attempted to talk Pettine out of retirement. Now six weeks into the season, Parker has a veteran coach as a sounding board.

This move shows what a bust Park has been. I don't see this ending good for the Cowboys going forward.

 

[DarkVader33]

/hangs head I also thought that Matt Eberflus would be great.

He seems to be doing OK with the 49ers, so maybe it's just the Cowboys team itself that is the problem. Draft stupid players, or slow ones, or good ones and then make them change positions....

Hard to evaluate Ebers influence since he’s not calling plays.

 

[JPM]

Jerry will do anything to avoid bad optics or paying average pay for good coaches. He would hire 50 coaches for 100k a year before he hired a head coach for 15 million a year

He builds a great roster that anyone can coach these guys to success.