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couldn't we just be nice people. Who cares if its politically correct or not. Name should have been changed a long time ago. I don't even see what the other viewpoint could be. Well, it used to be racist, so its fine now? We are being overly politically correct by saying a racial slur should not be a team name in our biggest sport? Seriously, why even get to the point of it being an issue of a PC society. How about just saying, its just downright weird to use in the first place OR EVEN why the hell did they use the name in the first place? All are excuses to be ignorant. Why not just cease the ignorance on it period? There's simply no hypothetical here. Its just stupid to use, PERIOD.
 

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Actually its origin is not racist, it was used by native americans themselves to differentiate themselves from white settlers while corresponding.

Negro isn't racist either, but now makes people squirm because of the slur that was derived from it.

We don't refer to Asian people as Orientals any longer either, as it has become archaic in nature, may make some people scratch their heads, but in and of itself it is not derogatory in intent.

Intent is in delivery, and many of these words were perverted and co-opted, not designed as prejudices.

Everything you say is true but does it really matter how a word originates or how it was used 200 years ago when today it is blatantly racist? Could we name a team Negros or Orientals? For that matter, could anyone name a team anything that refered to a race of people other than Native Americans? I think not. So let's simply do away with the names and logos that some of them find demeaning and offensive.
 

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What do you think they hired him and gave him that segment to do?

I'm nt disagreeing with what he said in this instance, but he has used his bullyulpit to expound on issues like gun control. If I want to hear about that stuff I will turn it to CNN.
 

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I'm nt disagreeing with what he said in this instance, but he has used his bullyulpit to expound on issues like gun control. If I want to hear about that stuff I will turn it to CNN.

Fine, but direct your anger at the producers or whoever hired him and gave him that segment. He is simply doing what he was hired to to. He is not breaking away from his analysis of the 1st half to deliver some impromptu soapbox speech. He was given that halftime segment specifically to expound to any issue of the day he feels appropriate.
 

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Fine, but direct your anger at the producers or whoever hired him and gave him that segment. He is simply doing what he was hired to to. He is not breaking away from his analysis of the 1st half to deliver some impromptu soapbox speech. He was given that halftime segment specifically to expound to any issue of the day he feels appropriate.

Who said I was angry at him specifically? I know the producers are just as culpable.
 

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Everything you say is true but does it really matter how a word originates or how it was used 200 years ago when today it is blatantly racist? Could we name a team Negros or Orientals? For that matter, could anyone name a team anything that refered to a race of people other than Native Americans? I think not. So let's simply do away with the names and logos that some of them find demeaning and offensive.

Yeah, I can see it now......."The 2025 NFL schedule has just been released, and your heroes (sorry Blackie Sherrod!), Team A, will kick off the season on Tuesday night football vs. Team B. The game will be carried on NFL Networks 1,2,3 & 4, along with The Al Jazeera network."
 

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Actually its origin is not racist, it was used by native americans themselves to differentiate themselves from white settlers while corresponding.

Negro isn't racist either, but now makes people squirm because of the slur that was derived from it.

We don't refer to Asian people as Orientals any longer either, as it has become archaic in nature, may make some people scratch their heads, but in and of itself it is not derogatory in intent.

Intent is in delivery, and many of these words were perverted and co-opted, not designed as prejudices.


I thought he made a valid argument but I've been reading for months now about them needing to change their name. Snyder says no way. I don't see how they could make them.
 

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Yeah, I can see it now......."The 2025 NFL schedule has just been released, and your heroes (sorry Blackie Sherrod!), Team A, will kick off the season on Tuesday night football vs. Team B. The game will be carried on NFL Networks 1,2,3 & 4, along with The Al Jazeera network."

It really never helps an argument when you go to the absurd to try an make your point. No one is talking about doing away with names based on fake outrage. I think once you get passed the Commanders' name and the Indians' logo, there isn't much else that could be considered genuinely offensive. Anyone trying to go beyond those two would find support drop way off. I know mine would. The only other thing I can think of is that tomahawk chop thing the Braves do. I can see how that might be offensive to Native Americans but it's way below the other two.
 

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I thought he made a valid argument but I've been reading for months now about them needing to change their name. Snyder says no way. I don't see how they could make them.

The league probably cannot force Snyder to change it but what do you think Snyder would do if the league announced the following: "As long as the franchise in our Nations Capitol keeps its racist and offensive name, they will never host a super bowl, they will never play a nationally televised game, and their broadcast region will be limited to the immediate area around Washington DC and the local market of the team they are playing."

Now, it is likely that would be met with a lawsuit but I believe the league has the power to do each of those things as they choose where superbowls are played, make the schedule, and own the video rights to the games. I'm not 100% sure on who chooses what games are shown where but I bet the league has influence over the networks and could get them to go along.
 

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The league probably cannot force Snyder to change it but what do you think Snyder would do if the league announced the following: "As long as the franchise in our Nations Capitol keeps its racist and offensive name, they will never host a super bowl, they will never play a nationally televised game, and their broadcast region will be limited to the immediate area around Washington DC and the local market of the team they are playing."

Now, it is likely that would be met with a lawsuit but I believe the league has the power to do each of those things as they choose where superbowls are played, make the schedule, and own the video rights to the games. I'm not 100% sure on who chooses what games are shown where but I bet the league has influence over the networks and could get them to go along.




I think the NFL would probably be sued for a record amount by Daniel Snyder if they choose to do that.
 

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I think the NFL would probably be sued for a record amount by Daniel Snyder if they choose to do that.

Okay, but would he win? The league has control over all those areas. Or would Snyder decide its not worth the fight any longer? I highly doubt any of those will ever happen but if it gets to the point where the league decides it must be changed, they have avenues of control over the teams to try and persuade them to comply.
 

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Okay, but would he win? The league has control over all those areas. Or would Snyder decide its not worth the fight any longer? I highly doubt any of those will ever happen but if it gets to the point where the league decides it must be changed, they have avenues of control over the teams to try and persuade them to comply.

I don't know the legalities of any of this. I just presume he would fight it based on his comments.
 

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Bob Costas is great, provided he sticks with sports-related commentary and limits himself to meaningless and largely vacuous topics, such as how football enriches our lives. When it comes to social commentary, I can find more insight on the back of a Cracker Jack box.
 
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