Men who Built America

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I found it ironic that today the government bailed out banks yet it was JP Morgan who bailed out the US when they were in deep trouble. No doubt most of these men were not the nicest guys in the world they could be ruthless but without them the building of America does not happen for all their faults they also had a vision and willing to risk it all to follow their dream and in the course of things they built the US into the worlds most dominating countries.
 
Well according to SOME nothing can be done without the government......

I would put it NOTHING CAN BE DONE WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE

which is why nothing gets done on time or on budget anywhere anymore
 
burmafrd said:
Well according to SOME nothing can be done without the government......

I would put it NOTHING CAN BE DONE WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE

which is why nothing gets done on time or on budget anywhere anymore
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Well no doubt as much as these men did to help build the nation it was important as time went on to regulate these men and their companies who used pretty ruthless means to get what they wanted. It is a matter of striking a balance. Like anything else you can find good and bad in these men but one thing for sure they made a lasting mark on this country.
 
Yeah let's go back to the way industry ran when those fellas were the Captains of industry. :rolleyes:

I watched that series last year. It was very interesting.
 
burmafrd said:
Well according to SOME nothing can be done without the government......

I would put it NOTHING CAN BE DONE WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE

which is why nothing gets done on time or on budget anywhere anymore
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OK...so a Banana Republic
 
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That was a great series. I liked the part where Henry Frick was shot in the neck but beat up his assailant and was back to work in a few days. (He was probably a jerk but still interesting).
 
I just watched an episode last night about JP Morgan and found it very interesting. This series should be shown in schools.

Greed is good. It's even better when it's regulated. Back then 80% of America was poor, and I mean POOR. But thanks to how passionate and determined (and greedy) JP Morgan (and Rockefeller) was to make money technology moved forward a lot faster as a result. It's a shame Tesla did not get his due, though.
 
Nirvana said:
I just watched an episode last night about JP Morgan and found it very interesting. This series should be shown in schools.

Greed is good. It's even better when it's regulated. Back then 80% of America was poor, and I mean POOR. But thanks to how passionate and determined (and greedy) JP Morgan (and Rockefeller) was to make money technology moved forward a lot faster as a result. It's a shame Tesla did not get his due, though.
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The Founding Fathers felt the same way (US Constitution) no sarcasm intended. Good post.
 
Doomsday101 said:
Well no doubt as much as these men did to help build the nation it was important as time went on to regulate these men and their companies who used pretty ruthless means to get what they wanted. It is a matter of striking a balance. Like anything else you can find good and bad in these men but one thing for sure they made a lasting mark on this country.
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Great post.

It IS all about the balance.

And this is a terrific series. I've watched it numerous times.

H2 has an expanded edition with pop-ups giving even more information.
 
Tawney88 said:
Yeah let's go back to the way industry ran when those fellas were the Captains of industry. :rolleyes:

I watched that series last year. It was very interesting.
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cant wait ... working in sweat shops for pennies ... There is a reason Teddy Rooseveldt is my favorite president. He did more for the American working class than anyone. We need someone like him again. Go after the 3Ms of the world ... who made 3 billion last year and paid zero tax.
 
PJTHEDOORS said:
Was this covered about Ford in that series?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/interview/henryford-antisemitism/
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You will find good and bad in most.

On this day in 1926, Ford Motor Company becomes one of the first companies in America to adopt a five-day, 40-hour week for workers in its automotive factories. The policy would be extended to Ford's office workers the following August.

Henry Ford's Detroit-based automobile company had broken ground in its labor policies before. In early 1914, against a backdrop of widespread unemployment and increasing labor unrest, Ford announced that it would pay its male factory workers a minimum wage of $5 per eight-hour day, upped from a previous rate of $2.34 for nine hours (the policy was adopted for female workers in 1916). The news shocked many in the industry--at the time, $5 per day was nearly double what the average auto worker made--but turned out to be a stroke of brilliance, immediately boosting productivity along the assembly line and building a sense of company loyalty and pride among Ford's workers.


Ford was paying his workers twice the amont that others paid and he put in the 5 day work week as opposed to the 6 day work weeks most companies had in place.
 
JIMMYBUFFETT said:
No PJ, they didn't mention that. I couldn't care less about the political, social, religious, or sexual beliefs of a guy who died 26 years before I was even born. I just thought it was a cool show.
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Strange. That was a big part of his life. I guess cars is the safe way to discuss Ford and nothing outside that.
 
Nirvana said:
I just watched an episode last night about JP Morgan and found it very interesting. This series should be shown in schools.

Greed is good. It's even better when it's regulated. Back then 80% of America was poor, and I mean POOR. But thanks to how passionate and determined (and greedy) JP Morgan (and Rockefeller) was to make money technology moved forward a lot faster as a result. It's a shame Tesla did not get his due, though.
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Now that is an interesting person in history.
 
Keep it about the Series and leave the politics out of this thread. Won't be another warning fellas.
 
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