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Anyone think it could be the Cowboys doctors took a look and didn't like what they saw?

Quite possibly and very good point. With RM here and our current situation on the DL - if he left without a contract I would be willing to bet there was good reason. I was not too hot on paying top money for the guy anyway. No thanks.
 

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Anyone think it could be the Cowboys doctors took a look and didn't like what they saw?

Not according to the reports that said they were fine with the knee. It is more possible it was a look at the ledger versus an MRI that bottomed this out.
 

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Rare example.

Just take a look at the DE/DTs drafted high the last three years. See anyone with similar Frederick like success? The closest were Aldon Smith and J.J. Watt several years ago. The rest are all in various stages of development. We need at least one high quality starter on this line and that is not on this roster right now, nor will be likely arriving in early May.

You just really never know though. You might pay a bunch of money to a vet and he gets injured the first week of camp and misses the season. Same for anyone but I like the chances of getting a bunch of young kids in here to compete and see what shakes down.
 

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This is just a strange situation. He has visited Minnesota where he would probably be a reserve, Seattle as well.

Now St. Louis? He's not starting there over Brockers, and maybe even not over Kendall Lankford.

Seems pretty clear to me.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Most teams are probably offering him a one-year 'prove it' type deal, given his 'issues', while he's looking for the long-term big payday.
 

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Seems pretty clear to me.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Most teams are probably offering him a one-year 'prove it' type deal, given his 'issues', while he's looking for the long-term big payday.

I read somewhere he actually wanted a chance to take a short deal and then hit it big next year, ala Michael Bennett. That would mean less money overall, but more guaranteed money right away.

The guaranteed money is quite possibly the sticking point given his injury status.
 

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Rare example.

Just take a look at the DE/DTs drafted high the last three years. See anyone with similar Frederick like success? The closest were Aldon Smith and J.J. Watt several years ago. The rest are all in various stages of development. We need at least one high quality starter on this line and that is not on this roster right now, nor will be likely arriving in early May.

If it's DL only, then Carolina last year is probably the best example of a team filling two spots just via the draft.
 

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If it's DL only, then Carolina last year is probably the best example of a team filling two spots just via the draft.

Both were good starters, but they already had two good ends in Hardy and Johnson. We are nowhere near that. We need all of it, we do not have a single player on the roster right now I would consider a solid starter on the defensive line. We have a bunch of hope and crossed fingers.
 

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Maybe it's as simple as the Rams were calling, so why not listen and use the "hard to get" card as leverage against the teams he already visited. This may have just been his plan all along. Doesn't mean he's off the table, just means he's surprisingly tough to nab. Anyone here like him so much that you consider him an absolute "must get?"
 

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Rare example.

Just take a look at the DE/DTs drafted high the last three years. See anyone with similar Frederick like success? The closest were Aldon Smith and J.J. Watt several years ago. The rest are all in various stages of development. We need at least one high quality starter on this line and that is not on this roster right now, nor will be likely arriving in early May.

It is not easy to hit but it is possible. I think if we have a decent draft it could help this team on the Dline. I don't care if it is for this year or if it takes a year or two.
 

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Maybe it's as simple as the Rams were calling, so why not listen and use the "hard to get" card as leverage against the teams he already visited. This may have just been his plan all along. Doesn't mean he's off the table, just means he's surprisingly tough to nab. Anyone here like him so much that you consider him an absolute "must get?"

I think Melton or Allen is a must get, yes. We have, right now, literally the worst DL in the NFL. And going into a draft like that should not be an option.
 

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I read somewhere he actually wanted a chance to take a short deal and then hit it big next year, ala Michael Bennett. That would mean less money overall, but more guaranteed money right away.

The guaranteed money is quite possibly the sticking point given his injury status.

Well, if that's his play, it would make it really difficult for the Cowboys to sign him at this point.

The only way they're signing anyone for big money is to stretch it out into a long-term deal and again borrow from the future.
 

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It is not easy to hit but it is possible. I think if we have a decent draft it could help this team on the Dline. I don't care if it is for this year or if it takes a year or two.

I think this should be the approach. The Allen/Melton combo was not taking us to the promise land. Two yrs worth of drafts devoted to defensive talent might get us headed in the right direction with a better cap situation
 

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I think Melton or Allen is a must get, yes. We have, right now, literally the worst DL in the NFL. And going into a draft like that should not be an option.

True. From a pure numbers perspective, we look a bit more viable at DT currently. I think Crawford and Bass are both better suited as DT's, since either would probably be at an athletic deficit at DE. So Crawford/Bass/Hayden/McClain... Nothing at all to get excited about, but a little better than just Mincey/Selvie, right?

That combined with the fact that DT is considered the stronger position in the draft, and Melton's $ may be climbing out of reach (especially given his knee and off-field issues). Put it all together, and maybe throwing gobs of cash at Melton just doesn't give us the most value for what little money we have at our disposal.
 

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I think this should be the approach. The Allen/Melton combo was not taking us to the promise land. Two yrs worth of drafts devoted to defensive talent might get us headed in the right direction with a better cap situation

I do not think most people are suggesting sign both and forget about the draft.

It is just dangerous to be as desperate as we will absolutely be without any quality starters and go into a draft. We will reach and even neglect other areas that could improve the football team.

Get one or the other and you can pick and choose your shots.
 

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True. From a pure numbers perspective, we look a bit more viable at DT currently. I think Crawford and Bass are both better suited as DT's, since either would probably be at an athletic deficit at DE. So Crawford/Bass/Hayden/McClain... Nothing at all to get excited about, but a little better than just Mincey/Selvie, right?

That combined with the fact that DT is considered the stronger position in the draft, and Melton's $ may be climbing out of reach (especially given his knee and off-field issues). Put it all together, and maybe throwing gobs of cash at Melton just doesn't give us the most value for what little money we have at our disposal.

If it comes down to just the cash situation, and you can only have one, I take Allen.
 

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True. From a pure numbers perspective, we look a bit more viable at DT currently. I think Crawford and Bass are both better suited as DT's, since either would probably be at an athletic deficit at DE. So Crawford/Bass/Hayden/McClain... Nothing at all to get excited about, but a little better than just Mincey/Selvie, right?

That combined with the fact that DT is considered the stronger position in the draft, and Melton's $ may be climbing out of reach (especially given his knee and off-field issues). Put it all together, and maybe throwing gobs of cash at Melton just doesn't give us the most value for what little money we have at our disposal.

Crawford has only played in spot duty for part of one season, under a different system. Same thing with Ben Bass. We don't know what we have with those two, and we don't even know if Bass can make it on to the field without getting hurt.
 

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If it comes down to just the cash situation, and you can only have one, I take Allen.

If the money was the same (between Melton and Allen)...I think I take Allen too.

But if we don't get those two than we go into the draft and HOPE they are prudent with the choices to help us build over the next couple of years.

However, IMO, there is no MUST GET FA for this team. I know that happens to feel like the case in a sports forum where every decision is treated like a major drama that will turn out to be a life and death decision. But it is not.
 
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