Shazier camp on phone with Dallas as Steelers picked

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Jerry Jones has acknowledged that new Cleveland Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel was the No. 1 player on the Dallas Cowboys' draft board at No. 16 overall.

The story behind the story is that Manziel was only atop the Cowboys' board because Pittsburgh had snatched linebacker Ryan Shazier out from under them just minutes earlier.

Steelers sources tell the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette the Cowboys were on the phone with Shazier's agent and were ready to select him over offensive lineman Zack Martin with the 16th pick.

"I'm in the middle of writing a text that Dallas is going to take him and the phone rings and it's the Steelers," Vernon Shazier, Ryan's father, told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. "Good thing I didn't send out that text ... I think he ended up in the right place."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...-camp-on-phone-with-dallas-as-steelers-picked
 
Yeah I heard about this a couple days ago, pretty interesting. I was a big fan of Shazier in a trade down but it's crazy that he got picked directly before them, they obviously didn't think that was possible.

It seems that the guys we are after never get to us, they always seem to be taken right before we want to, I've heard of too many situations like that. I bet this factored into the urgency of the Lawrence trade. Along with Barr and Donald being long gone.
 
It's funny the last highlight of Shazier in that clip against Iowa was actually a "lowlight" of him unable to get off a block. I'm pretty pleased Pittsburgh picked him before us. Watched a couple of this guy's games and he was one guy I absolutely did not want the Cowboys to draft. Too easily blocked and was often on the ground and missing tackles.
 
I think he should transition into a SS, he's a bit too small for linebacker and I believe he ran a sub 4.4 40 time.
 
Yeah I heard about this a couple days ago, pretty interesting. I was a big fan of Shazier in a trade down but it's crazy that he got picked directly before them, they obviously didn't think that was possible.

It seems that the guys we are after never get to us, they always seem to be taken right before we want to, I've heard of too many situations like that. I bet this factored into the urgency of the Lawrence trade. Along with Barr and Donald being long gone.

8-8 teams usually have that problem at draft time.
 
Yeah I heard about this a couple days ago, pretty interesting. I was a big fan of Shazier in a trade down but it's crazy that he got picked directly before them, they obviously didn't think that was possible.

It seems that the guys we are after never get to us, they always seem to be taken right before we want to, I've heard of too many situations like that. I bet this factored into the urgency of the Lawrence trade. Along with Barr and Donald being long gone.

this happens lot because we are 8-8 a lot ,you cant get blue chip players when are picking at 16 all the time.
 
He would have been a bust in the Dallas system. In the steelers system the DL will give him cover to make plays. Much better defensive team that got Shazier.
 
Man I'm glad the Steelers took him. I really wanted to like Shazier, but I don't see a great player.
 
Im 50/50 with Shazier. I'm pretty sure Dallas had plans to use him in a Derrick Brooks like role. He has ridiculous speed but as others have said, he gets jammed up and cannot shed blocks. With the coaching and a little bulk I think he would have done well here. I was ultimately hoping for Donald, but Martin will be great for us. He will be even better in helping the defense if Dallas can up their run/pass ratio and play more ball control. Make the defense play less than 30 minutes a game.
 
He for sure wouldve helped our weak lb core. If the steelers wanted him you know he was good. They always have a great core of lbers.
 
Me too, we have enough lb's, we needed a legit edge pass rusher, or a solid dt, not another outside lb.

i kinda agree. i like shazier as a player but he isnt a pressure player, not in this scheme from ANY lber spot and i fear that had we taken him we wouldnt have moved aggressively tor lawrence
 
I'd rather have a guy who is virtually bust proof and likely highly productive for 10 years tailor made for a ZBS, than a guy who may only last his rookie contract. The FO didnt screw up the first round, be happy.
 
this happens lot because we are 8-8 a lot ,you cant get blue chip players when are picking at 16 all the time.

8-8 teams usually have that problem at draft time.

I've seen this repeated over and over again this weekend and really don't get what point you are trying to make. Players we wanted were snatched up before us, but that happens to teams at all points of the draft. 6-10 teams lose out on franchise guys, 10-6 lose out on guys in the teens, 12-4 teams lose out on guys that have first round grades.
 
Anyone else we wouldn't have burned a 2nd and3rd on 1 player if Shazier would have been the pick at 16?
I do..or at least I hope so.
I really liked the Martin pick, but I think they panicked after that together perimeter front 7 help.

Shazier
Tim Jernigan
Kareem Martin or Trai Turner

Would not have been bad either vs Martin and Lawrence.

History now.
 

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