Chip Kelly in 2 years

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"Making" the playoffs is one thing. Making noise in the playoffs is another. Neither of those is the target though.

Making the playoffs is where anything can happen and the opportunities are endless until you're eliminated.
 

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Funny how we don't see any of these people in this thread when we're winning, but not now you see all of them full force ... all the "realists" are coming out now. I swear, we must be the worst 8-4 team in the world.

Lurking and twerking is what they do.

Lurking and not posting after a win and twerking and posting after a loss.
 

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Making the playoffs is where anything can happen and the opportunities are endless until you're eliminated.

Understood. But then your playing against the best teams. Unless your playing a team in the NFC South. We have been listening to the "second season" stuff for to long to. You don't lose to Washington, have to score on the last drive against the sad Giants, get blown out by the Eagles and expect much, at least I don't.
 

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Understood. But then your playing against the best teams. Unless your playing a team in the NFC South. We have been listening to the "second season" stuff for to long to. You don't lose to Washington, have to score on the last drive against the sad Giants, get blown out by the Eagles and expect much, at least I don't.

Those are all rivalry games where anything can happen. Our division foes always treat our games like their SB. We still have Phi n WSH to contend with and lucky for us It's on the road.
 

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Those are all rivalry games where anything can happen.[/B] Our division foes always treat our games like their SB. We still have Phi n WSH to contend with and lucky for us It's on the road.

I love that statement. It cracks me every single time some one says it and I knew you were going to.
Why don't we act like those games are our SB? Why don't we blow those teams away or play harder than we seem to against them?
We haven't won a thing in years and years.
 

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not reading through all the posts....but nothing like a big loss to bring out all the haters from the word work....go be Eagles fans....

I understand your frustration with those who are upset with the specific DC regime. And I assume your on the "keep things as they are" approach and things will get better. IMO the last thing these zoners are doing is hating on the franchise. On the contrary, they're so passionate about this franchise winning, they're upset with the same old inconsistent team leading to the same result. You know the definition of stupidity? Trying to do the same thing the same way over and over again expecting different results right? We have been beating our heads against the wall of mediocrity with the same cast of characters for many years. The only hate I see is the hate of losing or mediocrity. The DC have made slight modifications with coordinators and some good things have happened however the way we lost this last game looks like the Decembers of old and our experiences over the last 18 years. Was it the Eagles are so much better? I think our coaches got out coached and players out played. No short time travel excuses please. If this keeps happening you have to pin it on someone. Just sayin.
 

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I love that statement. It cracks me every single time some one says it and I knew you were going to.
Why don't we act like those games are our SB? Why don't we blow those teams away or play harder than we seem to against them?
We haven't won a thing in years and years.

Because we fell short means we didn't try? That cracks me up! Not every win will be a blow out. Why can't winning be enough? As you mentioned the comeback win vs NY. We did come back and win, right?
 

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Because we fell short means we didn't try? That cracks me up! Not every win will be a blow out. Why can't winning be enough? As you mentioned the comeback win vs NY. We did come back and win, right?

Not what I'm talking about. You said it's their SB when they play us. You think we play them like it's ours? We need to play every game like it's our SB.
That's how you get there. The Hawks certainly played like the SF game was theirs.

We fell short against Philly? We didn't even show up, and that was the biggest game all season for this team.
 

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Not what I'm talking about. You said it's their SB when they play us. You think we play them like it's ours? We need to play every game like it's our SB.
That's how you get there. The Hawks certainly played like the SF game was theirs.

We fell short against Philly? We didn't even show up, and that was the biggest game all season for this team.

That's how those teams treat us only. They don't play every game like it's their SB. Nobody does.

NE, DEN and Philly all had a game where they appeared to not show up. Tail kickings happen and it happened to us. There's no excuse we just got beat and now its our turn to do something about it and come out strong like the other 3 teams I mentioned.
 

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Funny how we don't see any of these people in this thread when we're winning, but not now you see all of them full force ... all the "realists" are coming out now. I swear, we must be the worst 8-4 team in the world.

I am here every dam day, win or lose............you don't have over 15,000 posts being a "fake fan".

However I call it like I see it and I am not going to blow sunshine up everybody's backside when the team gets curb stomped and even Jerry says the team had no fire or passion or enthusiasm for the game. If players cant get up for a prime time division game for first place, then there is a serious problem with this program and it starts with the coaching.
 

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And if we squeak into the playoffs I don't know what we will be. You can pretend to know but truthfully you don't know. And I don't know what the Eagirls will do either. For all I know they could be a Super Bowl team. And the team you guys are striving to mimic gave up 34 points to the Deadskins, 427 Yards to Kirk Cousins and gave up 511 total yards. So what is your point?

The Eagles aren't winning the Superbowl either, they have as many defensive problems as us and they don't have a QB. But they are in line right now to win the division for the 2nd time in two years with Chip Kelly as coach, something Jason Garrett hasn't done once in 4 years. That's the point.

If Kelly is "gimmicky", maybe we should try to find some gimmicks too.,
 

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The Eagles aren't winning the Superbowl either, they have as many defensive problems as us and they don't have a QB. But they are in line right now to win the division for the 2nd time in two years with Chip Kelly as coach, something Jason Garrett hasn't done once in 4 years. That's the point.

If Kelly is "gimmicky", maybe we should try to find some gimmicks too.,

So you're content with being a gimmick to get to the post season just to lose in the 1st round?

People can say what they want about Garrett but his philosophy this season should be successful. Run the ball and pass to get you out of a mess. Use clock. Its smart and effective football. Its what's gotten us to 8-4. LIke I said above, Chip is the Don Nelson of the NFL. Playing very stupid football.
 

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He hasn't even managed that yet. And if he goes 6-1 to start the season and still misses the playoffs, I don't understand the belief at all that he ever will.

That would be the biggest collapse in franchise history...............no previous Cowboy team that started 6-1 or better missed the playoffs, this year would be the first time...............don't see how that happens and you call a press conference and give Opie an brand new extension...........Arlington better have the riot control police on standby that day:laugh:
 

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He hasn't even managed that yet. And if he goes 6-1 to start the season and still misses the playoffs, I don't understand the belief at all that he ever will.

So that's a yes? You want this team to strive to be Chip Kelly and the gimmicky Eagirls?
 

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Explain to me why the Eagles are a "gimmick" but are winning without a QB or defense, but Jason Garrett has a "winning philosophy" even though he can't seem to win anything for 4 years despite having a top 5 QB.

Yea, its comical how folks are trying to piss on the Eagle's offense by saying its a gimmick....................we sure as hell couldn't stop it and it is the # 3 offense in the NFL...........if that is a gimmick, I will take it.

What did we score, 10 freaking points.
 

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Explain to me why the Eagles are a "gimmick" but are winning without a QB or defense, but Jason Garrett has a "winning philosophy" even though he can't seem to win anything for 4 years despite having a top 5 QB.

So you believe their offense is winning football? Using the clock, tiring their defense and keeping teams in the game?
 

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Yea, its comical how folks are trying to piss on the Eagle's offense by saying its a gimmick....................we sure as hell couldn't stop it and it is the # 3 offense in the NFL...........if that is a gimmick, I will take it.

What did we score, 10 freaking points.

Its still a gimmick. The Deadskins lost by 3 points to them. Its the Cowboys. I have no excuses to be made why we couldn't stop it. They're better than us. But the Packers sure put up 53 on them and could've put up 70 if they wanted too. Its a gimmick offense.
 

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Its still a gimmick. The Deadskins lost by 3 points to them. Its the Cowboys. I have no excuses to be made why we couldn't stop it. They're better than us. But the Packers sure put up 53 on them and could've put up 70 if they wanted too. Its a gimmick offense.

Think about this. The Eagles have a statistically worse defense than ours, a -6 turnover differential and have played a very mediocre Nick Foles and awful Mark Sanchez at QB. And despite that they are the #3 offense in the league (did I mention with Nick Foles and Mark bleeping Sanchez?) are 9-3 and are in position to win their 2nd division title in 2 years.

I hate the Eagles as much if not more than anyone, but if you don't think Chip Kelly is doing a hell of a coaching job in Philly you are fooling yourself. And someday soon he may get a decent QB to run his system and find his own Rod Marinelli to fix his defense and then things really get ugly.

You can write that off as a gimmick all you want, but he is still winning a lot more with a lot less than Jason Garrett ever has or probably ever will. And he took Garrett to the woodshed on Thursday.

p.s. Getting sliced apart by Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay doesn't make your system a gimmick. If so there are a lot of gimmick teams out there.
 
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