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DTown214

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Sucks that we might have to trade up to get him. Apparently he's not getting past Baltimore at 26. I think he'd be worth trading up a couple spots though, would love to have him here!
 

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Anyone but a Wisconsin rb in the first round, these guys are system runners and none have lived up to the hype on the next level.


Ron Dayne
Montee Ball
Michael Bennett
P.J. Hill
Terrell Fletcher
John Clay

All of these guys have put up great numbers at Wisconsin but fizzled out In the NFL.

So you think that the system is what allows him to juke people in the hole, the second level, and run through arm tackles without losing speed?

Gordon had the second highest rushing total of all time behind that oline which makes sense when you combine strength on strength. Ron Dayne is the only one who ever came close and Gordon is nothing like Dayne nor the team he played for in the 90s.
 

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Anyone but a Wisconsin rb in the first round, these guys are system runners and none have lived up to the hype on the next level.


Ron Dayne
Montee Ball
Michael Bennett
P.J. Hill
Terrell Fletcher
John Clay

All of these guys have put up great numbers at Wisconsin but fizzled out In the NFL.

None of them are anywhere near the prospect that Gordon is.

This is why I hate the college argument. Look at the individual, not the program.
 

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With the exception of Ron Dayne, none were as good of a prospect as Gordon. And in today's NFL, prospects similar to Ron Dayne aren't rated nearly as high as they were in 2000 or so

I'd draft Wisconsin linemen because the have a good track record in the NFL. How do we know that it wasn't the oline in the case of Gordon just like his predecessors, history is not on his side.
 

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For the most part I agree, **. I do, however, think AP changes the whole deal. I'm not going to lock myself in a closet and declare our season over if we do not somehow get the guy. I just happen to think that he improves our chances pf a Super Bowl appearance X2 if he's in Dallas.

Like most (reasonable posters) I also have my limits. When the asking price reaches the 1st round zip code or his contract demands get past the Murray numbers, I'm out.

That is a reasonable approach. I suppose I feel similar in that if it was a 3rd round pick, for instance, and he wasn't going to make as much as he in in Minny, then I wouldn't mind (and I don't think Dallas would either). However, that just isn't going to be the case. He'll be expensive in both picks and salary cap dollars, and that just isn't how Dallas is running things these days (thank God).

It is the same basic reason that I was in favor of them letting Demarcus Ware go to Denver. A buddy of mine is a huge Denver fan and he couldn't understand why I wasn't upset. He does now.
 

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After what Stephen said today, every RB in this draft is praying they become a Cowboy.

Because first contract is peanuts and second contract is the most you'll see (most likely) as a RB. Behind this OL, with good health, you have the best chance at racking up a couple of All-Pro seasons and getting that AD money by the time 5 years comes around (cap inflation).
 

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None of them are anywhere near the prospect that Gordon is.

This is why I hate the college argument. Look at the individual, not the program.

I also dont like OU wrs, LSU players drafted by the Cowboys and Oregon qbs.
 

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Ok... so who at 27?

I know you didn't address this to me but I'll take a swing at it. It's simple - You take the highest rated defensive player on your board unless someone from offense has really fallen. That being said, I still don't think the Cowboys have 27 players with 1st round grades and rather than reach for a player with a 2nd round grade would jump at the chance to trade down 7-8 spots.
 

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Malcolm Brown and Mario Edwards Jr, I think if we solidify the dline the everything else will take care of itself.

Ok, thank you for answering my question man. I would be thrilled with Brown at 27... although I think he will be long gone.

If Dallas took Edwards at 27, I might jump off a bridge though. I don't want him at 60.

I feel like there is a good chance that the BPA at 27 very likely may be a RB if they're there... but I think it will more likely be a CB or LB (Kendricks) and I'd be fine with any of the 3 positions as long as it was BPA.

We all have different ideas and views about the draft though. That is what makes it fun for us all.

Thanks for the chat.
 

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Basically that he didn't see the Cowboys trading draft picks for veteran players (ala AP). He didn't say anything about not trading veteran players (Carr) for veteran players (AP), however. It's all salesman speak right now anyway.
Like Mark Twain said: a lie makes it half way around the world before the truth even gets it's shoes on. It's liar's season right now more than any time of the year.

Actually, British pastor Charles Haddon Spurgeon deserves the credit for that quote. He appropriated it from a proverb in 1855 -- when Mark Twain was only known as Sam Clemens at age 20.
 

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Actually, British pastor Charles Haddon Spurgeon deserves the credit for that quote. He appropriated it from a proverb in 1855 -- when Mark Twain was only known as Sam Clemens at age 20.

Thank you, sir, for the correction. Learn something new everyday.
 

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I'd draft Wisconsin linemen because the have a good track record in the NFL. How do we know that it wasn't the oline in the case of Gordon just like his predecessors, history is not on his side.

maybe not, but you could make similar arguments for several positions at several schools. Both Oregon and Florida State have produced several high picked QBs that have not panned out, but it would be foolish to use that as a reason to not pick them.
 
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