Adrian Peterson threatening retirement

[windjc]

Poor widdle baby. I wish my employer would "abandon" me to the tune of $50 million over the past 6 years.
Why should they be down on their knees in gratitude when they can cut him at their own whim? As I said before, this contract is essentially 3 club options for the next 3 years. If the spoiled cry baby doesn't like those terms, he should not have signed the contract he did.

They should understand that its not worth paying him $13 million a year to be a cancer. They should have just worked quietly behind the scenes to get a 1st and maybe a little bit more for him from a team that would be a better fit. Instead, the Vikings coach and GM are acting like petulant babies. You could say the same of Peterson, but he doesn't feel like they had his back, which they didn't really, so just move on.

 

[Nightman]

Oh there's a surprise.... someone bringing the Patriots into a thread that has nothing to do with the Patriots.

If you want to talk about the Patriots, please bring it to another thread. We're talking about Adrian Peterson here. All you really do is prove that you have nothing to say in response to my point, so you are desperately trying to change the subject. Can't blame you considering the point you are trying to make is a bankrupt one.

My only "agenda" is that I have a low tolerance for spoiled, selfish athletes that sign long term contracts in good faith so they can get all their upfront money, then complain about having to fulfill their end of the bargain a couple years later. Throw in the fact that he is a child abuser and that makes him quite a bit less sympathetic in my eyes.

I addressed your 'point' multiple times but all you want to do is call Peterson names. I hope you feel better now.

 

[Rogah]

I addressed your 'point' multiple times but all you want to do is call Peterson names. I hope you feel better now.

Yes your point was he abused his child and should therefore be free of his contractual obligations. Can't really say I see the connection there.

 

[Rogah]

They should understand that its not worth paying him $13 million a year to be a cancer. They should have just worked quietly behind the scenes to get a 1st and maybe a little bit more for him from a team that would be a better fit. Instead, the Vikings coach and GM are acting like petulant babies. You could say the same of Peterson, but he doesn't feel like they had his back, which they didn't really, so just move on.

Well it will all come down to how much of a cancer is he willing to be. He certainly could do himself a lot of harm so it isn't like he has nothing to lose.

 

[Doomsday101]

It makes no difference what he spends his money on. You say he will get paid 15 million next year and 17 the following.....how could you possibly know if they will ever pay him that? Its pretty obvious that they will never pay him any of that money. If they plan to then guarantee it. They want the guarantee to be only for them. They want the guarantee that he will play for them yet they wont guarantee they will keep him and pay him any of this money.

If its ok for a team to cut a player when his salary gets too large then its ok for a player to ask to be cut or to have a portion of that money guaranteed. The Vikings knew when they did this deal that it would come to this point.

They guaranteed 36 mill dollars, boo fricken hoo sorry if that does not make the prince happy but that is a hell of a lot of money they paid him and in return his job was to play ball so now he needs to shut the hell up and play ball. Before someone starts up about an employee asking for more money, well not that many will get 36 million in hand, that is a lot different than the guy trying to make ends meet and is underpaid. That clearly does not apply to Peterson or many athletes.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes your point was he abused his child and should therefore be free of his contractual obligations. Can't really say I see the connection there.

What I don't get some act as if these guys are getting paid minimum wage barely making it when the fact it they are paid damn well, better than most degreed jobs they could have gotten after College. In good faith the Vikings paid him as the highest paid RB in NFL history and at the time most felt Minn was crazy spending that kind of cash on a RB but they did. Now he wants to come back and say yes but now you need to guarantee the rest of it? I don't think so

 

[superonyx]

They guaranteed 36 mill dollars, boo fricken hoo sorry if that does not make the prince happy but that is a hell of a lot of money they paid him and in return his job was to play ball so now he needs to shut the hell up and play ball. Before someone starts up about an employee asking for more money, well not that many will get 36 million in hand, that is a lot different than the guy trying to make ends meet and is underpaid. That clearly does not apply to Peterson or many athletes.

You are getting caught up in the amount of money and comparing professional football player to regular jobs. My wife is a 2nd grade teacher so I get it...however this is entertainment just like a TV show. Do you remember when the cast of Friends each made 1million per episode. Peterson draws viewers as all players who are successful draw viewers and this generates revenue.

Jerry jones bought the Cowboys for 200 million and now they are worth 3.5 Billion.

 

[superonyx]

They guaranteed 36 mill dollars, boo fricken hoo sorry if that does not make the prince happy but that is a hell of a lot of money they paid him and in return his job was to play ball so now he needs to shut the hell up and play ball. Before someone starts up about an employee asking for more money, well not that many will get 36 million in hand, that is a lot different than the guy trying to make ends meet and is underpaid. That clearly does not apply to Peterson or many athletes.

Are you as irate over Scandrick. He just did the same thing. The difference is that the Cowboys actually value him so they did the right thing to make him want to retire as a cowboy.

 

[Doomsday101]

You are getting caught up in the amount of money and comparing professional football player to regular jobs. My wife is a 2nd grade teacher so I get it...however this is entertainment just like a TV show. Do you remember when the cast of Friends each made 1million per episode. Peterson draws viewers as all players who are successful draw viewers and this generates revenue.

Jerry jones bought the Cowboys for 200 million and now they are worth 3.5 Billion.

I'm not confusing anything, it really gets old he is the highest paid RB in the NFL he was giving up front money to the tune of 36 million, he is not underpaid and he owes the Vikes his service they held up their end of the bargin they paid him more than any RB to ever play the game. Currently the 2nd highest paid RB is Forte with 9 mill coming this season while Peterson is at 15.4 mill. Sorry no way would I pay him 1 cent more. It would be one thing is Peterson was now the 5th highest paid back but he remain the highest paid

 

[Doomsday101]

Are you as irate over Scandrick. He just did the same thing. The difference is that the Cowboys actually value him so they did the right thing to make him want to retire as a cowboy.

Not at all, Scandrick was not the highest paid CB in the NFL and while I do not like having deals redone especially after it had just been done recently, but never the less his pay increase still is much less than many CB in the NFL. Peterson is still the highest paid by a wide margin

 

[superonyx]

I'm not confusing anything, it really gets old he is the highest paid RB in the NFL he was giving up front money to the tune of 36 million, he is not underpaid and he owes the Vikes his service they held up their end of the bargin they paid him more than any RB to ever play the game. Currently the 2nd highest paid RB is Forte with 9 mill coming this season while Peterson is at 15.4 mill. Sorry no way would I pay him 1 cent more. It would be one thing is Peterson was now the 5th highest paid back but he remain the highest paid

He isn't asking for one cent more. He is asking for an insurance plan to assure the other side ,who claims to value him so much that they won't trade him, honors their end of the deal.....by forcing him to stay in Minnesota they are also taking away his ability to gain the insurance he desires. So his stance is that if they really find him so valuable that they won't trade or release him then prove it by guaranteeing some of the money they agreed to pay him. It's not about asking for a raise. How are you reading it this way at all?

 

[superonyx]

Not at all, Scandrick was not the highest paid CB in the NFL and while I do not like having deals redone especially after it had just been done recently, but never the less his pay increase still is much less than many CB in the NFL. Peterson is still the highest paid by a wide margin

If Scandrick was the best CB in the NFL then he would make the most money. scandrick went and asked for a raise. Peterson isn't. He is asking for contract insurance.

If the Vikings were to guarantee the remaining 3 years of his contract than I'm sure he would be happy to stay. He is calling their bluff by asking them to prove they value him as much as they claim to value him.

 

[Doomsday101]

He isn't asking for one cent more. He is asking for an insurance plan to assure the other side ,who claims to value him so much that they won't trade him, honors their end of the deal.....by forcing him to stay in Minnesota they are also taking away his ability to gain the insurance he desires. So his stance is that if they really find him so valuable that they won't trade or release him then prove it by guaranteeing some of the money they agreed to pay him. It's not about asking for a raise. How are you reading it this way at all?

He got his money, I'm sorry he is the highest paid RB in the NFL I would tell him to pound sand. If he wants to walk away from 15 mill this year to hell with him. I'm sorry but this fawning over and treating these guys like royalty is ridicules. He has been well paid by the Vikes they do not owe him a damn thing.
I’m not reading this wrong I’m tired of teams bending over for spoiled players.

 

[Doomsday101]

If Scandrick was the best CB in the NFL then he would make the most money. scandrick went and asked for a raise. Peterson isn't. He is asking for contract insurance.

If the Vikings were to guarantee the remaining 3 years of his contract than I'm sure he would be happy to stay. He is calling their bluff by asking them to prove they value him as much as they claim to value him.

He got his it was 36 million dollars that is a hell of a lot of money why should he get anything more? Why it will make him feel better? Minn did him right he can either do his job that he has been paid better than any RB to play the game or retire and go do something else. I can promise it will not be 15 mill he will get no matter what once the season starts.

 

[superonyx]

He got his it was 36 million dollars that is a hell of a lot of money why should he get anything more? Why it will make him feel better? Minn did him right he can either do his job that he has been paid better than any RB to play the game or retire and go do something else. I can promise it will not be 15 mill he will get no matter what once the season starts.

Why should he get anything more? Im not sure what you mean by this. He should get what the Vikings agreed to pay him. Are you saying he shouldn't get what the Vikings signed his contract agreeing to pay him?

You keep going back to an invalid point. He isn't asking for anything more. He is asking to be paid what they countersigned to pay him. Stop acting like the Vikings are innocent here. It wouldn't matter if he was suspended last year or not. He would still be asking for a guarantee that he will receive the money they agreed to pay him. There is a reason that the NBA and MLB players unions have fought for guaranteed contracts. An NFL owner or front office cannot act surprised or play the victim when a player with his contract, age, past performance, comes to the team and ask them to honor their end of the contract they signed. The owners have no problem cutting a player when they signed a contract that the team doesn't want to honor. Look at how many June 1st (or whatever day) cuts there are around the league. Each time an owner backs out of a contract it is no any different than a player backing out of a contract.

I don't love Peterson as a person and I think he isn't the best role model for my children. However he is right about the way the contracts in the NFL work. They are one sided. Its the one sided contracts that have made this become the expectation when players have remaining years of inflated salaries.

As far as what he has already been paid...you may not like it or him but the fact is Peterson has already earned the money they paid him. He is the big show in Minnesota and one of the most intriguing players in the NFL. Not many non QB's can draw fans to watch like Peterson can. Its not just about yards ect. Its about money. Its a business and Peterson displays a combination of size, strength and intensity that people like to watch.

 

[superonyx]

He got his money, I'm sorry he is the highest paid RB in the NFL I would tell him to pound sand. If he wants to walk away from 15 mill this year to hell with him. I'm sorry but this fawning over and treating these guys like royalty is ridicules. He has been well paid by the Vikes they do not owe him a damn thing.
I’m not reading this wrong I’m tired of teams bending over for spoiled players.

He has been well paid. However do not forget that an employee in the NFL isn't an expense like an employee is for a regular cooperation. A player in the NFL is an asset that brings in money to the owners pockets. Peterson is the draw that the owner markets to sell his luxury boxes each year. He is the freak that is the face of that team. You are acting like the NFL is a charity and they are doing some noble act by paying the performers big money (by regular standards). Once a player is no longer drawing enough revenue to make up for the salary the owners cut them. Its a business.

The Vikings should not be surprised that Peterson is asking for this. They knew from the beginning that the possibility existed that he would be asking for a restructure when his contract reached this point.

This isn't unique to Peterson. This is around the NFL that this contract issue comes up. Its only unique to Peterson now because he feels that he can stand up for himself. Sort of like Orlando Scandrick....

 

[Doomsday101]

Teams take risk as well when they sign these players to big long term contracts with guaranteed money, if the player retires or injured the team is still on the hook for a lot of money even though the player got his. Ratliff got his money then all of a sudden he is not playing, he wants out and Dallas lost the money that was guaranteed. So don't act as if the players are the only ones take any risk.
He is a 30 year old RB Minn guaranteeing him a good portion of the remaining 47 mill would be beyond stupid.
Minn in my view paid him a king’s ransom and a lot of guaranteed money they did their part

 

[Doomsday101]

He has been well paid. However do not forget that an employee in the NFL isn't an expense like an employee is for a regular cooperation. A player in the NFL is an asset that brings in money to the owners pockets. Peterson is the draw that the owner markets to sell his luxury boxes each year. He is the freak that is the face of that team. You are acting like the NFL is a charity and they are doing some noble act by paying the performers big money (by regular standards). Once a player is no longer drawing enough revenue to make up for the salary the owners cut them. Its a business.

The Vikings should not be surprised that Peterson is asking for this. They knew from the beginning that the possibility existed that he would be asking for a restructure when his contract reached this point.

This isn't unique to Peterson. This is around the NFL that this contract issue comes up. Its only unique to Peterson now because he feels that he can stand up for himself. Sort of like Orlando Scandrick....

Peterson can feel however he wants, he can ask for whatever he wants this does not mean Minn is obligated to do it nor should they. Yes he is a star, yes people will pay to see him and guess what Minn already gave him the money. You are talking charity? give me a break it was a 6 year deal 86 million dollars including a $12,000,000 signing bonus, $36,000,000 guaranteed there was nothing charitable about it that is real money in his pocket they paid him

 

[Rogah]

He isn't asking for one cent more. He is asking for an insurance plan to assure the other side ,who claims to value him so much that they won't trade him, honors their end of the deal.....

Minnesota's end of the deal is they essentially have 3 club options over the final 3 years of this particular deal.

They have honored their end of the deal by giving him roughly $50 million since 2011. They have every right to use their club options to keep him or exercise their chance to cut him without further pay - and they have every right to make those decisions on a year-by-year basis.

 

[superonyx]

Minnesota's end of the deal is they essentially have 3 club options over the final 3 years of this particular deal.

They have honored their end of the deal by giving him roughly $50 million since 2011. They have every right to use their club options to keep him or exercise their chance to cut him without further pay.

Agreed...and he has every right to ask them to restructure the contract or force them to trade or cut him.
They are playing a risky game that they cant win. They are underestimating his resolve to make something happen.

This guy may be serious enough to get a case of constant cramps or severe fumbleitis on them.

They have their rights.....but that doesn't mean they are making the right choice.