Stephen A.: Hardy not responsible for Cowboys' atrocity

[khiladi]

So stuff like - He has to go. I am sure he would be ok on a team that demands accountability but in Dallas that situation will just get worse and worse. - is blaming Greg Hardy for this season?

This is the complete nonsense you're trying to sell me?

I agree. Hardy does have to go. But no, he's not responsible for this season and nobody I've seen here, there or anywhere ever said he was.

You mean your going to nit pick that Stephen actually is saying that people think Hardy actually caused Dallas to lose every game they lost and that's the only reason? Sports talk-show hosts dont engage in hyperbole..

 

[Risen Star]

You mean Stephen Smith doesn't engage in hyperbole to make a point and your going to nitpick that point?

What?

Are you conducting your own who can say the dumbest thing contest? He said Greg Hardy isn't to blame. I asked who blamed him. You show me a thread of people criticizing him. I criticize him too. I also criticize Terrance Williams and Doug Free. Neither is to blame for this season.

The fact that you can't provide a link of anyone on this board blaming him for this season ends this discussion. Have fun fighting the fight against a movement that only resides in your mind.

 

[tyke1doe]

Racism and someone being a racist are completely different things. It's like saying being wet and going swimming are the same.

Bad analogy. I shouldn't have to tell you why.

Okay, I will.

The words "wet" and "swimming" don't come from the same word. The words "racism" and "racist" originate from the same word, meaning they are similar in nature.

Furthermore, in the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary 11th Edition, the word "racist" doesn't have a definition of its own. It is given as the noun/adjective form of the word racism.
And when that is the case, it means one should defer to the definition of the original word being defined.

So based on the dictionary, you're wrong.
Now if you can provide a definition from an established source that defines a racist outside of word racism, I'll consider it. But you'll forgive me if I'm not open to accepting amorphous definitions provided by posters here.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Bad analogy. I shouldn't have to tell you why.

Okay, I will.

The words "wet" and "swimming" don't come from the same word. The words "racism" and "racist" originate from the same word, meaning they are similar in nature.

Furthermore, in the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary 11th Edition, the word "racist" doesn't have a definition of its own. It is given as the noun/adjective form of the word racism.
And when that is the case, it means one should defer to the definition of the original word being defined.

So based on the dictionary, you're wrong.
Now if you can provide a definition from an established source that defines a racist outside of word racism, I'll consider it. But you'll forgive me if I'm not open to accepting amorphous definitions provided by posters here.

The words are derivatives of each other. Not synonyms.

Why is this confusing you?

 

[khiladi]

What?

Are you conducting your own who can say the dumbest thing contest? He said Greg Hardy isn't to blame. I asked who blamed him. You show me a thread of people criticizing him. I criticize him too. I also criticize Terrance Williams and Doug Free. Neither is to blame for this season.

The fact that you can't provide a link of anyone on this board blaming him for this season ends this discussion. Have fun fighting the fight against a movement that only resides in your mind.

I gave you a link that showed people blamed him, and you tried to nitpick that this doesn't imply that they believe Hardy is the sole reason they lost so you win?

What part of blaming him for losing control of the lockerroom do you not understand? Are you trying to argue that didn't happen and that's not enough of a point to prove they weren't blaming him for the season?

Your nitpicking..

 

[tyke1doe]

The words are derivatives of each other. Not synonyms.

Why is this confusing you?

But being a derivative does not separate them from their basic meaning. It simply means, in this case, one applies to a system of institutional racism and the other applies to an individual who perpetuates the system.

Why is THIS confusing to you?

Oh, and a derivative is something that derives or comes from the same source.

But here again, you've not offered one established source that defines a racist outside the context of racism. Why is this?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

But being a derivative does not separate them from their basic meaning. It simply means, in this case, one applies to a system of institutional racism and the other applies to an individual who perpetuates the system.

Why is THIS confusing to you?

Oh, and a derivative is something that derives or comes from the same source.

But here again, you've not offered one established source that defines a racist outside the context of racism. Why is this?

Confusing me?

I SAID THAT EXACT THING IN MY FIRST POST!

 

[tyke1doe]

Confusing me?

I SAID THAT EXACT THING IN MY FIRST POST!

So you're agreeing that racist derives from the word racism, and it's reasonable to conclude that if someone is a racist that it's connected to racism?

All this back and forth when we agreed all this time

 

[Toruk_Makto]

So you're agreeing that racist derives from the word racism, and it's reasonable to conclude that if someone is a racist that it's connected to racism?

All this back and forth when we agreed all this time

No. Being a racist isn't necessarily connected to racism. It can be.

For example...black people who are racist aren't connected to racism.

This is a simple concept sir.

 

[tyke1doe]

No. Being a racist isn't necessarily connected to racism. It can be.

For example...black people who are racist aren't connected to racism.

This is a simple concept sir.

Actually, you're making up a definition to fit your argument.

Repeatedly, I've asked you for an established definition of a racist, and you've refused to submit one.

Instead, you've given me your opinion of what a racist is. I'm not interested in your opinion.

I've given you the dictionary definition of racism. I've also explain to you how racist comes from the word racism and how racist isn't even given its own definition in the Websters dictionary. Hence, I have fortified my point via an established source.

Unless you can provide an established source that says a racist can be understood unconnected to racism, I'll assume you're arguing simply to argue.

 

[vaturkey]

I find Stephen A. annoying to say the least. Think that entire show stinks. Course I though Cowturd stunk also. Guess I don't like many of those talking heads.

 

[Frozen700]

We sucked this season because we overrated the talent on this roster.

Nobody on this roster outside of maybe Smith is top 5 at their position. Barely any top 10's

Rest are just complete average-scrub players

 

[erod]

I haven't heard a single person blame Greg Hardy for Dallas' bad season.

Steven A. Smith has the mind of a small child.

 

[big dog cowboy]

We sucked this season because we overrated the talent on this roster.

We sucked this year becaue our 2 best players were hurt damn near all season.

 

[Alexander]

I haven't heard a single person blame Greg Hardy for Dallas' bad season.

Steven A. Smith has the mind of a small child.

Actually, he is pretty smart.

The small child brains are those that actually tune in to listen to him.

 

[Seven]

Who is blaming Greg Hardy?

My first thought......

 

[Seven]

Actually, he is pretty smart.

The small child brains are those that actually tune in to listen to him.

Epic fail Alexander......epic.

 

[Alexander]

Epic fail Alexander......epic.

Whatever you say.

He earns a lot of money to say stupidity and dumb people pay attention.

To me, that is smart.

The content of what comes out of his mouth is irrelevant if it gets the job done.

 

[Seven]

Whatever you say.


The content of what comes out of his mouth is irrelevant if it gets the job done.

That makes him smart? Brillaint. I hope you don't vote.

 

[rpntex]

Plenty of people.. They say he disrupted and ruined the locker room culture..

Oh, BS! I've seen people write that he wasn't a "positive" addition, but I haven't seen anyone state that Hardy was solely responsible for any loss(es) this year.