Stephen A.: Hardy not responsible for Cowboys' atrocity

[Dwight]

Stephen A's exact words on Garrett was that he was product of a privileged relationship with Jerry, he specifically said there are other white coaches who would be fired given the same track record. To the best of my knowledge he never said this buffoon Jason Garret only kept his job because he is white, and left it at that. If i'm wrong please provide the link to the video where he says that.

Just because someone makes a truthful statement, and it offends you, and makes you are uncomfortable, because you are white..does not make the other person a racist.

Excellent post. I'm not a Stephen A. Smith fan but I feel he wasn't being racist with the comments regarding Jason. The people who do not like what he said either don't like the truth or they can't comprehend what Steven was saying.

 

[tyke1doe]

Why bring race into it in the first place? Race baiting to increase clicks or viewership. If that's how you and he think...so be it. ..it's a free country.

But that's a separate question than is Stephen A. is a racist.

I was drawn by the statement that Stephen A. is a racist. So I asked how people who call him such define racist because by the dictionary definition he is not.

As to your question about why he brings it up, I'll answer: because it is a question that black players and assistant coaches and coaches note, observe and discuss.

Why do you think Chip Kelly got fired? Part of the reason is because he was perceived as treating black players differently than whites. Whether it's true or not, it's an issue that factored into him not getting along with players and contributed to his departure.

There are a lot of fans who just want to talk football and Xs and Os only. They don't want to hear about domestic violence or drugs or race. But these things impact players so commentators like Stephen A. talk about them.

 

[tyke1doe]

Stephen A's exact words on Garrett was that he was product of a privileged relationship with Jerry, he specifically said there are other white coaches who would be fired given the same track record. To the best of my knowledge he never said this buffoon Jason Garret only kept his job because he is white, and left it at that. If i'm wrong please provide the link to the video where he says that.

Just because someone makes a truthful statement, and it offends you, and makes you uncomfortable, because you are white..does not make the other person a racist.

I doubt he said it like that either. But to some people if you say anything about race, you're a racist. These people apparently don't know what racism or being a racist is, which is why I asked the question.

 

[Jarv]

But that's a separate question than is Stephen A. is a racist.

I was drawn by the statement that Stephen A. is a racist. So I asked how people who call him such define racist because by the dictionary definition he is not.

As to your question about why he brings it up, I'll answer: because it is a question that black players and assistant coaches and coaches note, observe and discuss.

Why do you think Chip Kelly got fired? Part of the reason is because he was perceived as treating black players differently than whites. Whether it's true or not, it's an issue that factored into him not getting along with players and contributer to his departure.

There are a lot of fans who just want to talk football and Xs and Os only. They don't want to hear about domestic violence or drugs or race. But these things impact players so commentators like Stephen A. talk about them.

S Smith didn't get fired for his comments only because he is black.

 

[tyke1doe]

Racism is institutional. Being a racist is...well...not.

But aren't individuals collectively responsible for racism? And wouldn't that mean that a person responsible for contributing to institutional racism be a racist?

I think you get where I'm going. If Stephen A. is a racist, how is he contributing to institutionally discriminating against whites and if this is not the definition of a racist, what is he doing that would warrant him this label?

Of the definitions given, they don't apply to Stephen A.

 

[tyke1doe]

S Smith didn't get fired for his comments only because he is black.

Huh?

 

[Jarv]

Huh?

Lol

 

[tyke1doe]

Excellent post. I'm not a Stephen A. Smith fan but I feel he wasn't being racist with the comments regarding Jason. The people who do not like what he said either don't like the truth or they can't comprehend what Steven was saying.

I say it's both. People are so quick to cry racist or racism, but many of them don't have the slightest understanding of what racism or being a racist is.

 

[The Natural]

I doubt he said it like that either. But to some people if you say anything about race, you're a racist. These people apparently don't know what racism or being a racist is, which is why I asked the question.

Keep in mind this was a thread about Greg Hardy. A poster went out of his way in the very first post to change the tone of the thread. Now if that was me or any other poster with a record making an off topic message in the very first post of a thread it would have got cleaned up quickly. But I guess the rules don't apply to everybody.

 

[tyke1doe]

Lol

I'm glad you found my response funny, but I honesty don't know what you mean. Do you explaining further? Thanks.

 

[JoeKing]

Stephen A's exact words on Garrett was that he was product of a privileged relationship with Jerry, he specifically said there are other white coaches who would be fired given the same track record. To the best of my knowledge he never said this buffoon Jason Garret only kept his job because he is white, and left it at that. If i'm wrong please provide the link to the video where he says that.

Just because someone makes a truthful statement, and it offends you, and makes you are uncomfortable, because you are white..does not make the other person a racist.

BSPN is very good at covering for SAS by protecting his outrageous on camera rants from being reposted on other sites. The absence of evidence in not evidence of absense.

Funny how you want to tell us SAS's "exact words" without a link but then expect a link to counter your argument. I think if you are going to just tell us what he said then I can do the same.

 

[The Natural]

BSPN is very good at covering for SAS by protecting his outrageous on camera rants from being reposted on other sites. The absence of evidence in not evidence of absense.

Funny how you want to tell us SAS's "exact words" without a link but then expect a link to counter your argument. I think if you are going to just tell us what he said then I can do the same.

here you go champ, fast forward to 6:40 and listen for 20 or so seconds

 

[Toruk_Makto]

But aren't individuals collectively responsible for racism? And wouldn't that mean that a person responsible for contributing to institutional racism be a racist?

I think you get where I'm going. If Stephen A. is a racist, how is he contributing to institutionally discriminating against whites and if this is not the definition of a racist, what is he doing that would warrant him this label?

Of the definitions given, they don't apply to Stephen A.

What are you talking about?

 

[JoeKing]

I'm glad you found my response funny, but I honesty don't know what you mean. Do you explaining further? Thanks.

lol means laughing out loud... what futher explaination do you need?

 

[JoeKing]

here you go champ, fast forward to 6:40 and listen for 20 or so seconds

Thank you for providing the video and pardon my tardy reply due to technical difficulties beyond my control.

SAS thinks he has a point in singling out JG's preferential treatment by JJ and attributes it to race. He states black folks don't get that preferential treatment in keeping their job while ignoring the fact that Marvin Lewis is black and has a string of one and dones. He also ignores the fact that Will McClay (a black man) is the real brains of the operation in Dallas and has the ear of the Jones family in all football operation matters.

 

[JoeKing]

Excellent post. I'm not a Stephen A. Smith fan but I feel he wasn't being racist with the comments regarding Jason. The people who do not like what he said either don't like the truth or they can't comprehend what Steven was saying.

Or the folks that don't like what he said sees the illegitimacy in his claim. Marvin Lewis gets the same preferential treatment.

 

[Dwight]

Or the folks that don't like what he said sees the illegitimacy in his claim. Marvin Lewis gets the same preferential treatment.

Great that you mention Marvin Lewis because Stephen A. Smith feels that Lewis should be fired.

 

[JoeKing]

Great that you mention Marvin Lewis because Stephen A. Smith feels that Lewis should be fired.

That's great, that's at least a constant stance but it still doesn't support his argument that race has anything to do with JG keeping his job.

 

[Bleu Star]

I'm not a big fan of him but Steven is not a racist. He is fair to all races of people. He gets on his own race of people when they are wrong.

Correct.

But he didn't need to say this. It just feeds those that don't appreciate him the way we do.

 

[Bleu Star]

Marv Lewis is worst than.... Oh nevermind.